Obama to OK benefits for same-sex partners of federal workers

Jun 17, 2009 | Posted by: belizerealtor | Full story: www.cnn.com

President Obama will sign a memorandum Wednesday granting some benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees, two senior administration officials said. President Obama has been criticized by gay rights activists for not doing more since taking office.

President Obama has been criticized by gay rights activists for not doing more since taking office.

It will provide some health care benefits, but will stop short of full health coverage, the officials said. Details of the benefits were not immediately available.

The signing, which will take place in the Oval Office, follows sharp criticism of the president over a Justice Department motion filed last week in support of the Defense of Marriage Act -- which effectively bars the federal government from recognizing same-sex unions by defining marriage as "a legal union between one man and one woman as husband wife" and a spouse as "a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife."

The motion used the government's interest in opposing incestuous marriages to support its position against same-sex marriage.

"I have to say, as a federal employee, I'm really disappointed," Lisa Polyak, 48, of Baltimore, Maryland, said of Obama's expected memorandum.

Polyak, who has worked for the federal government for more than two decades, is with the Army Medical Department. She was among the two dozen authors of the Dallas Principles, a set of eight statements that seek to guide the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community toward "full civil equality," according to the document's preamble....

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Can you understand the point of my post? My point is that the Obama administration openly defends DOMA in court. It has nothing to do with the author of that article.
Bush, Regan and Clinton all filed briefs in court opposing current federal law as being unconstitutional. Obama did not choose to challenge the constitutionality of DOMA. Who cares whether DOMA is constitutional or not. As he has said repeatedly, DOMA is discriminatory and interferes with states rights. He intends to work with Congress to repeal the act.

In my opinion choosing to follow the laws that are on the books he pointed out how silly some others of them are -- not just DOMA. For example: Which heterosexuals can get married varies from state to state.

I believe as apparently Obama believes that the age of consent should be the same across the country.
http://www.webistry.net/jan/consent.html
Currently two people in houses next to each other can have sex with 17 year olds. One could go to prison for years and the other has done nothing wrong if the two houses are on the border between California and Nevada.

States laws should agree on what constitutes incest.

In chosing to point out that DOMA is a law that needs changed, Obama has brought the inequality of other laws to the limelight as well.

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6 states as of now, but efforts to repeal 4 of those states are in full force. And, by the way...I watched the open discrimination toward a homosexual in Huntington, WV yesterday. I was in line at a gas station/mini-mart when a young man (early 20's) came in to turn his job application in. He had a rainbow necklace on and was not all that masculine. He handed the application to the manager and right after he left, the manager looked at the other employee who said, "I think he's a queer." He chuckled and then the application hit the trash! Here, it is still legal to make hiring decisions based on orientation.
6 states as of now and efforts are in full force to pass the bill in several other states as well.

Yes, you can still discriminate against Gays in WV. It's another reason that talent and other valuable human resources have left WV.

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You really are not very bright, are you?

Massachusetts is not about to repeal anything and smarter people than you have been trying for over 5 years with ABSOLUTELY NO SUCCESS.

Connecticut will most likely NEVER get Same-Sex Marriage repealed either because they just had a Constitutional Convention that failed on this issue and another Convention won't take place for another 20 years

Vermont and New Hampshire were both done through the LEGISLATIVE Process and again NOT very likely to change anytime soon.

Iowa will need 2 CONSECUTIVE general Assemblies by both the House and the Senate with a 2/3 majority vote before going to the voters.......which at the earliest won't happen til possibly 2013.........I wouldn't hold my breath on this one.......AND LAST........is Maine.......which does have the people veto power and could go your way.......so I will leave that one up to getting signatures.

Oh and on your thrill of being a BIGOT.......don't come to my State......you DEFINITELY won't like the way we treat people just like YOU.......:)

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6 states as of now, but efforts to repeal 4 of those states are in full force. And, by the way...I watched the open discrimination toward a homosexual in Huntington, WV yesterday. I was in line at a gas station/mini-mart when a young man (early 20's) came in to turn his job application in. He had a rainbow necklace on and was not all that masculine. He handed the application to the manager and right after he left, the manager looked at the other employee who said, "I think he's a queer." He chuckled and then the application hit the trash! Here, it is still legal to make hiring decisions based on orientation.
As we speak the NY legistlature is working on a bill that not only recognizes out of state SSMs but is opening up the doors for gay marriages to be performed legally in that state.

Just because you saw it happen does not make it legal, laws vary from state to state and perhaps you should check yours.

Morality has always had a rough time triumphing over blind bigotry.....but it does eventually happen!
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Obama the bureaucratic double tongue and his media homosexual bed fellows have fooled many of the less wise among as.Obama has double tongued his way by false promises of free money to the ignorant. Look at who he surrounds himself with, look at his actions, his words are meaningless.

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Obama the bureaucratic double tongue and his media homosexual bed fellows have fooled many of the less wise among as.Obama has double tongued his way by false promises of free money to the ignorant. Look at who he surrounds himself with, look at his actions, his words are meaningless.
Your post is still meaningless and silly. Nobody missed it the first time, we just ignore ignorance.
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Your post is still meaningless and silly. Nobody missed it the first time, we just ignore ignorance.
http://video.google.com/videoplay... OK then they will ignore this as well I guess.

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http://video.google.com/videoplay... OK then they will ignore this as well I guess.
From the video's description:
The Obama Deception is a hard-hitting film that completely destroys the myth that Barack Obama is working for the best interests of the American people. The Obama phenomenon is a hoax carefully crafted by the captains of the New World Order. He is being pushed as savior in an attempt to con the American people into accepting global slavery. We have reached a critical juncture in the New World Orders plans. Its not about Left or Right: its about a One World Government. The international banks plan to loot the people of the United States and turn them into slaves on a Global Plantation. Covered in this film: who Obama works for, what lies he has told, and his real agenda. If you want to know the facts and cut through all the hype, this is the film for you. Watch the Obama Deception and learn how:

* Obama is continuing the process of transforming America into something that resembles Nazi Germany, with forced National Service, domestic civilian spies, warrantless wiretaps, the destruction of the Second Amendment, FEMA camps and Martial Law.
* Obamas handlers are openly announcing the creation of a new Bank of the World that will dominate every nation on earth through carbon taxes and military force.
* International bankers purposefully engineered the worldwide financial meltdown to bankrupt the nations of the planet and bring in World Government.
* Obama plans to loot the middle class, destroy pensions and federalize the states so that the population is completely dependent on the Central Government.
* The Elite are using Obama to pacify the public so they can usher in the North American Union by stealth, launch a new Cold War and continue the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. The information contained in this film is vital to the future of the Republic and to freedom worldwide. President Barack Obama is only the tool of a larger agenda. Until all are made aware, humanity will remain captive to the masters of the New World Order.
Wow! Paranoid much?

Bush/Cheney & their associated hooligans failed to do this, why would anyone think Mr Obama would even try? This conspiracy theory/propaganda is ludicrous, especially when presented in this discussion thread.
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"Enjoy the video Sheila!"

This is the all time greatest slam, here. you definitely got Mrs.-all-opinion-and-no-resear ch up a tree, lol!

Way to go Belize! Not everyone with blood from Cabell is against you!

"This conspiracy theory/propaganda is ludicrous, especially when presented in this discussion thread. "

It gave me a much needed laugh.

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http://video.google.com/videoplay... OK then they will ignore this as well I guess.
Yes, I believe I will ignore it. What an utter crock of sh!t.
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You really are not very bright, are you?
Massachusetts is not about to repeal anything and smarter people than you have been trying for over 5 years with ABSOLUTELY NO SUCCESS.
Connecticut will most likely NEVER get Same-Sex Marriage repealed either because they just had a Constitutional Convention that failed on this issue and another Convention won't take place for another 20 years
Vermont and New Hampshire were both done through the LEGISLATIVE Process and again NOT very likely to change anytime soon.
Iowa will need 2 CONSECUTIVE general Assemblies by both the House and the Senate with a 2/3 majority vote before going to the voters.......which at the earliest won't happen til possibly 2013.........I wouldn't hold my breath on this one.......AND LAST........is Maine.......which does have the people veto power and could go your way.......so I will leave that one up to getting signatures.
Oh and on your thrill of being a BIGOT.......don't come to my State......you DEFINITELY won't like the way we treat people just like YOU.......:)
What what happens in Maine.
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What what happens in Maine.
Maine has a power to the people veto.

If this issue is to go to the voters........signatures need to be collected before September.......if enough signatures are gathered......it will be put on the ballot for the people of Maine to vote on.

I heard though that this is not going well and that the group has plans to abandon this.

If this is true, then by September Same-Sex Couples in Maine will legally start to get married.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch...

This is the famous parody of the Ford ad...where the guy, instead of a blonde woman, asks the republican party head Ken Mehlman to give him a call-since Ken Mehlman was repub party head, his party gave money to the famous ad, and he is GAY!
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"If this is true, then by September Same-Sex Couples in Maine will legally start to get married. "

And nothing bad will happen, just more people will file as married and pay the marriage tax.

We won't even have to increase taxes, just wait...

Gay marriage can mean gay married filing jointly, and more taxes we don't all have to pay, just the new guys with the new right. A deserved right, BTW.
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If Ken Mehlman and Ken Haggard got married, which party would they vote for? What exactly would be served for hor's d'oveoures?

What Carl Rove and Newt Gingrich be their flower girls?

Would W give them "benefits"? What if they don't fit?

What if they were Irish, and their names were Henry FitzPatrick and Patrick Fitzhenry? Would they actually fit?

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"If this is true, then by September Same-Sex Couples in Maine will legally start to get married. "
And nothing bad will happen, just more people will file as married and pay the marriage tax.
We won't even have to increase taxes, just wait...
Gay marriage can mean gay married filing jointly, and more taxes we don't all have to pay, just the new guys with the new right. A deserved right, BTW.
Deserved right indeed. BTW, new guys and gals with the new right;0)

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"If this is true, then by September Same-Sex Couples in Maine will legally start to get married. "
And nothing bad will happen, just more people will file as married and pay the marriage tax.
We won't even have to increase taxes, just wait...
Gay marriage can mean gay married filing jointly, and more taxes we don't all have to pay, just the new guys with the new right. A deserved right, BTW.
It will only be taxes in Maine. Going state by state to win the right to marry means that we will have to pay local and state taxes, we will take on all the responsibilities of marriage like responsibility for debts of spouse, etc.

Any benefits come from the federal government and even those married in Maine will not be eligible for federal benefits.

Until DADT is rescinded and marriage is won federally, there is no financial benefit to Gays for getting married -- only responsibilities.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay... OK then they will ignore this as well I guess.
LMFAO! Well how funny is that! All I can say, and I suspect all most anyone can say is.....De Plane! De Plane! Welcome to fantasy island! Please meet Tatoo, and Mr. Roarke! Thorazine will be handed out at the door, before you leave, a double dose for YOU! LOL

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