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Cabell Hunt Hospital Empl

United States

#1 Sep 11, 2013
It might be important for our employees to get involved and take a real close look at what our Top Brass is getting us involved in with this thing with Pleasant Valley Hospital in Point Pleasant ( Many of the people in town there refer to it as "Death Valley Hospital"). The rumors are, besides being kind of a brothel for the administrators and managers and doctors, there are also some pending legal issues that are huge liabilities, potentially, and some ethical practices and utilization and over-treating and over-ordering and over-referring; and just a whole boat-load of problems and issues and potential financial disasters come with the whole deal. We should also look at what is going on in Fairmont, W.V. with some hospitals there. Our mgmt. is not telling us much. Is 1199 aware of it, at all? Is what CHH is trying to do there reviewable by WVHCRA? Does CHH have some considerable downside risk here; even if only to our reputation, that is currently one of our greatest assets? Can other hospitals object to this deal and demand an analysis for Competitive Impact by the WVHCRA? In Fairmont, other hospitals got involved in offering a "Partnership" arrangement. Just what, EXACTLY, does this mean? All CHH Employees should go to Point Pleasant, WV Topix site and do a search in the box on that site, just to see, to get a flavor for, what our hospital is about to get itself into. Once on the PP TOPIX SITE, search "PVH" . You cannot imagine what a cesspool that place seems to be. Better protect our hospital and our jobs if this is not a good move for CHH.
rolex

Lavalette, WV

#2 Sep 11, 2013
Cabell Hunt Hospital Empl wrote:
It might be important for our employees to get involved and take a real close look at what our Top Brass is getting us involved in with this thing with Pleasant Valley Hospital in Point Pleasant ( Many of the people in town there refer to it as "Death Valley Hospital"). The rumors are, besides being kind of a brothel for the administrators and managers and doctors, there are also some pending legal issues that are huge liabilities, potentially, and some ethical practices and utilization and over-treating and over-ordering and over-referring; and just a whole boat-load of problems and issues and potential financial disasters come with the whole deal. We should also look at what is going on in Fairmont, W.V. with some hospitals there. Our mgmt. is not telling us much. Is 1199 aware of it, at all? Is what CHH is trying to do there reviewable by WVHCRA? Does CHH have some considerable downside risk here; even if only to our reputation, that is currently one of our greatest assets? Can other hospitals object to this deal and demand an analysis for Competitive Impact by the WVHCRA? In Fairmont, other hospitals got involved in offering a "Partnership" arrangement. Just what, EXACTLY, does this mean? All CHH Employees should go to Point Pleasant, WV Topix site and do a search in the box on that site, just to see, to get a flavor for, what our hospital is about to get itself into. Once on the PP TOPIX SITE, search "PVH" . You cannot imagine what a cesspool that place seems to be. Better protect our hospital and our jobs if this is not a good move for CHH.
What reputation?!? Get real.

Sounds like someone is afraid their workload is going to increase...just sayin.
interesting

Huntington, WV

#3 Sep 11, 2013
Cabell Hunt Hospital Empl wrote:
It might be important for our employees to get involved and take a real close look at what our Top Brass is getting us involved in with this thing with Pleasant Valley Hospital in Point Pleasant ( Many of the people in town there refer to it as "Death Valley Hospital"). The rumors are, besides being kind of a brothel for the administrators and managers and doctors, there are also some pending legal issues that are huge liabilities, potentially, and some ethical practices and utilization and over-treating and over-ordering and over-referring; and just a whole boat-load of problems and issues and potential financial disasters come with the whole deal. We should also look at what is going on in Fairmont, W.V. with some hospitals there. Our mgmt. is not telling us much. Is 1199 aware of it, at all? Is what CHH is trying to do there reviewable by WVHCRA? Does CHH have some considerable downside risk here; even if only to our reputation, that is currently one of our greatest assets? Can other hospitals object to this deal and demand an analysis for Competitive Impact by the WVHCRA? In Fairmont, other hospitals got involved in offering a "Partnership" arrangement. Just what, EXACTLY, does this mean? All CHH Employees should go to Point Pleasant, WV Topix site and do a search in the box on that site, just to see, to get a flavor for, what our hospital is about to get itself into. Once on the PP TOPIX SITE, search "PVH" . You cannot imagine what a cesspool that place seems to be. Better protect our hospital and our jobs if this is not a good move for CHH.
Oh the good people at Bailes, Craig, and Yon (hospital defense team) will cover that shit up and make it all shiny and new.

They are notorious for their scandal covering/hiding unethical dealings.
CHH Employee too

United States

#4 Sep 11, 2013
Cabell Hunt Hospital Empl wrote:
It might be important for our employees to get involved and take a real close look at what our Top Brass is getting us involved in with this thing with Pleasant Valley Hospital in Point Pleasant ( Many of the people in town there refer to it as "Death Valley Hospital"). The rumors are, besides being kind of a brothel for the administrators and managers and doctors, there are also some pending legal issues that are huge liabilities, potentially, and some ethical practices and utilization and over-treating and over-ordering and over-referring; and just a whole boat-load of problems and issues and potential financial disasters come with the whole deal. We should also look at what is going on in Fairmont, W.V. with some hospitals there. Our mgmt. is not telling us much. Is 1199 aware of it, at all? Is what CHH is trying to do there reviewable by WVHCRA? Does CHH have some considerable downside risk here; even if only to our reputation, that is currently one of our greatest assets? Can other hospitals object to this deal and demand an analysis for Competitive Impact by the WVHCRA? In Fairmont, other hospitals got involved in offering a "Partnership" arrangement. Just what, EXACTLY, does this mean? All CHH Employees should go to Point Pleasant, WV Topix site and do a search in the box on that site, just to see, to get a flavor for, what our hospital is about to get itself into. Once on the PP TOPIX SITE, search "PVH" . You cannot imagine what a cesspool that place seems to be. Better protect our hospital and our jobs if this is not a good move for CHH.
This sounds only practical and prudent and totally reasonable to be concerned about.
CHH EMPLOYEE Also

United States

#5 Sep 11, 2013
CHH Employee too wrote:
<quoted text> This sounds only practical and prudent and totally reasonable to be concerned about.
I agree. Tough to make a logical argument against checking it all out. And, yes, we do have a GREAT reputation in the whole region, and yes, we need to guard it.
rolex

Lavalette, WV

#6 Sep 11, 2013
Wow. CHH "employees" you are all using the same IP and internet provider. In essence, you are all the SAME person...the OP. Get real.
1199 Skeptic

Huntington, WV

#7 Sep 11, 2013
Hey 1199ers...

Thanks for hanging out on Topix spewing your typical trash. What you're really saying is "The union movement is in the crapper, WV is turning republican and we're basically a useless organization. Help!!"

I'm not buying what you're selling - you have done this to yourselves. When you file charges against your own members who are trying to better themselves - I'm done with you. The problem is, you know in your heart that many, many others are too. And the vote is not too far away.

Skeptic
To skeptic

Alexandria, VA

#8 Sep 11, 2013
The union is the only thing that has kept that hospital from being what it really could
IP COMMON ERROR

United States

#9 Sep 12, 2013
rolex wrote:
Wow. CHH "employees" you are all using the same IP and internet provider. In essence, you are all the SAME person...the OP. Get real.
amateur assumption. Try searching for "ghost apps" or. "Changing your IP address" And "using proxy servers".
rolex

Lavalette, WV

#10 Sep 12, 2013
IP COMMON ERROR wrote:
<quoted text>amateur assumption. Try searching for "ghost apps" or. "Changing your IP address" And "using proxy servers".
It's the same person, trust me. They should be more positive...You really should.
Legal Eagle

United States

#11 Sep 13, 2013
rolex wrote:
Wow. CHH "employees" you are all using the same IP and internet provider. In essence, you are all the SAME person...the OP. Get real.
Watching with professional interest.

1. If you have access to the IPAs of everyone on here, you are either the Moderator, or work for Topix, or are breaking the law in some way.

2. It is simple to alter IPAs and proxy servers.

3. The locations listed on here have nothing to do with the ACTUAL location of the Poster.

4. It is good to see things on here that actually have Public interests in mind, instead of the usual tripe by delinquents and trash who seem to outnumber real people with an I.Q over 70, on this site.

5. Tread carefully. Young Republicans still don't run this state. This person is simply advising employees to examine, analyze, debate, and evaluate the decision of their management leadership. How can you object to that unless you are defensive, paranoid, and fear some discovery of somethings that may not be right or good?

6. Ever heard of Freedom of Speech?

7. Ever heard of Invasion of Privacy?

8. If someone is speaking the truth, dealing in Fact and Reality; what difference does it make who or how many are the source?

These are Publicly owned hospitals. They need Public scrutiny and over-sight. Anything less is apathy and ignorance.

Strange response for any logical, reasonable person to make, but I defend your right to an opinion.
Mandy

Saint Louis, MO

#12 Sep 13, 2013
Legal Eagle wrote:
<quoted text> Watching with professional interest.
1. If you have access to the IPAs of everyone on here, you are either the Moderator, or work for Topix, or are breaking the law in some way.
2. It is simple to alter IPAs and proxy servers.
3. The locations listed on here have nothing to do with the ACTUAL location of the Poster.
4. It is good to see things on here that actually have Public interests in mind, instead of the usual tripe by delinquents and trash who seem to outnumber real people with an I.Q over 70, on this site.
5. Tread carefully. Young Republicans still don't run this state. This person is simply advising employees to examine, analyze, debate, and evaluate the decision of their management leadership. How can you object to that unless you are defensive, paranoid, and fear some discovery of somethings that may not be right or good?
6. Ever heard of Freedom of Speech?
7. Ever heard of Invasion of Privacy?
8. If someone is speaking the truth, dealing in Fact and Reality; what difference does it make who or how many are the source?
These are Publicly owned hospitals. They need Public scrutiny and over-sight. Anything less is apathy and ignorance.
Strange response for any logical, reasonable person to make, but I defend your right to an opinion.
Nothing illegal about tracing IP's friend. Very easily done.

If someone is speaking about an individual or business, it is easy to figure out who it is, yes even if they are using free wifi from McDonalds, etc. IP's are traced every single day for legal and civil liability reasons.
Legal Beagle

Huntington, WV

#13 Sep 13, 2013
Better take a flight over your facts Eagle. Your eagle eye will quickly see that CHH and PVH are NOT publically owned hospitals. Both are private, not-for-profit hospitals. Can the public learn about what is going on in them? Sure they can. Just ask for time with the Board of Directors at each and waltz right in - no secrets.

Thanks for trying to be just a touch smarter than we are. Sorry it didn't work out for you.
Hospital employee

United States

#14 Sep 21, 2013
Cabell Hunt Hospital Empl wrote:
It might be important for our employees to get involved and take a real close look at what our Top Brass is getting us involved in with this thing with Pleasant Valley Hospital in Point Pleasant ( Many of the people in town there refer to it as "Death Valley Hospital"). The rumors are, besides being kind of a brothel for the administrators and managers and doctors, there are also some pending legal issues that are huge liabilities, potentially, and some ethical practices and utilization and over-treating and over-ordering and over-referring; and just a whole boat-load of problems and issues and potential financial disasters come with the whole deal. We should also look at what is going on in Fairmont, W.V. with some hospitals there. Our mgmt. is not telling us much. Is 1199 aware of it, at all? Is what CHH is trying to do there reviewable by WVHCRA? Does CHH have some considerable downside risk here; even if only to our reputation, that is currently one of our greatest assets? Can other hospitals object to this deal and demand an analysis for Competitive Impact by the WVHCRA? In Fairmont, other hospitals got involved in offering a "Partnership" arrangement. Just what, EXACTLY, does this mean? All CHH Employees should go to Point Pleasant, WV Topix site and do a search in the box on that site, just to see, to get a flavor for, what our hospital is about to get itself into. Once on the PP TOPIX SITE, search "PVH" . You cannot imagine what a cesspool that place seems to be. Better protect our hospital and our jobs if this is not a good move for CHH.
Okay. I did. I know more about pleasant valley hospital than I ever wanted to. It's like a bad, trashy sex oriented medical t.v. soap opera. So how is this a good thing for our employees, doctors, or our hospital? I don't get it. Why invite problems that we don't need? What do we get out of it but more employees going after job postings than we already have. Why is this a good thing for. CHH?
dumb

Huntington, WV

#15 Sep 21, 2013
Hospital employee wrote:
<quoted text>Okay. I did. I know more about pleasant valley hospital than I ever wanted to. It's like a bad, trashy sex oriented medical t.v. soap opera. So how is this a good thing for our employees, doctors, or our hospital? I don't get it. Why invite problems that we don't need? What do we get out of it but more employees going after job postings than we already have. Why is this a good thing for. CHH?


And Cabell Huntington is not Sodom and/or Gormah?

What rock have you been under? You must be one of those fat lazy housekeepers that sleep all shift, because anyone With their eyes open knows exactly what goes on.
Curious

Huntington, WV

#16 Sep 26, 2013
Legal Beagle wrote:
Better take a flight over your facts Eagle. Your eagle eye will quickly see that CHH and PVH are NOT publically owned hospitals. Both are private, not-for-profit hospitals. Can the public learn about what is going on in them? Sure they can. Just ask for time with the Board of Directors at each and waltz right in - no secrets.
Thanks for trying to be just a touch smarter than we are. Sorry it didn't work out for you.
Nice try at deflection and misinformation. So tell us, please, who are the "Private Owners" you refer to? Name names, by all means.
Curious

Huntington, WV

#17 Sep 26, 2013
Mandy wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing illegal about tracing IP's friend. Very easily done.
If someone is speaking about an individual or business, it is easy to figure out who it is, yes even if they are using free wifi from McDonalds, etc. IP's are traced every single day for legal and civil liability reasons.
You conspicuously avoided the topics of rights to privacy and freedom of speech. Care to address those? There are many other legal channels to test the transparency requirements of not for profit hospitals, but I find no fault with the community owning them attending board meetings. That is a given right for the Public to do so. Shall I quote y o u legal citations you may want to refer to?
Mandy Snowden

Huntington, WV

#18 Sep 26, 2013
Mandy wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing illegal about tracing IP's friend. Very easily done.
If someone is speaking about an individual or business, it is easy to figure out who it is, yes even if they are using free wifi from McDonalds, etc. IP's are traced every single day for legal and civil liability reasons.
Bbased on your understanding;then - neither is it illegal to use ghost apps to fake different IPs or proxy servers or Mac addresses etc. That are different than actual. Am I right? No warrants or rights or legal actions apply. Right? Ahhhhh- the wonders of modern technology! Pixel trackers and web bugs and GPS tracking and. FBI Grade bugs for the trash can liners in the vehicles and the hacking of social media sits Andre cell phones and laptops and PCs - Wow! Paranoia strikes deep; into your heart it will creep.... Why don't you just say what you mean to imply to try to intimidate people? Last I hear we still live in a Democracy. Not for profit hospitals are OWNED by the People with a capital P. These are Community-Owned; Publicly-Owned entities. If you don't like that then give COLUMBIA-HCA a call and take them private and start paying the millions of dollars in taxes that the People have subsidized for you since day one of existence. By the way; if they buy us who do they make the check out to?

Incidently all of the high tech stuff mentioned that was inherently implied in your posting; works in multi-interest directions also. Paranoiac implications are not Germaine to the topic at all Mandy.
CHH High Tech

Saint Albans, WV

#19 Sep 26, 2013
Legal Beagle wrote:
Better take a flight over your facts Eagle. Your eagle eye will quickly see that CHH and PVH are NOT publically owned hospitals. Both are private, not-for-profit hospitals. Can the public learn about what is going on in them? Sure they can. Just ask for time with the Board of Directors at each and waltz right in - no secrets.
Thanks for trying to be just a touch smarter than we are. Sorry it didn't work out for you.

No thanks. There are far more reliable ways to get HONEST and ACCURATE answers, and easier ways.

This kind of attitude and response is typical. It confirms how arrogant and entitled hospitals and their huge systems' administrators and Boards have become. Your world is about to change radically and rapidly. YOU do not own these hospital systems, the PEOPLE own them. YOU work for us. Not for Profit Hospital Systems are REQUIRED by law to be transparent, and are subject to the PEOPLES' rights to public information and Sunshine Laws. What is it YOU feel the need to hide?

The U. S. Spends more on health care than any other top-tier country in the entire world, but does not rank in the top five in quality of care or outcomes.THE HIGHEST PER CAPITA COST IN THE WORLD! West Virginia ranks among the state's in this country with one of the highest PER capita health care costs in this country. CHH and PVH RANK AMONG THE HIGHEST PER CAPITA HEALTH CARE COSTS IN OUR STATE - with PVH being worse by far. You do the math. You do the inductive and deductive reasoning of the meaning of these facts. PVH ranks as one of the worst hospitals in the entire country in quality of care and outcomes rankings. CHH RANKS IN THE TOP TIERS, in these matters. Tell us how and why you think this "Partnership" is a good fit for CHH, it's employees, it's physicians, or it's patients.
Interesting

United States

#20 Oct 6, 2013
Cabell Hunt Hospital Empl wrote:
It might be important for our employees to get involved and take a real close look at what our Top Brass is getting us involved in with this thing with Pleasant Valley Hospital in Point Pleasant ( Many of the people in town there refer to it as "Death Valley Hospital"). The rumors are, besides being kind of a brothel for the administrators and managers and doctors, there are also some pending legal issues that are huge liabilities, potentially, and some ethical practices and utilization and over-treating and over-ordering and over-referring; and just a whole boat-load of problems and issues and potential financial disasters come with the whole deal. We should also look at what is going on in Fairmont, W.V. with some hospitals there. Our mgmt. is not telling us much. Is 1199 aware of it, at all? Is what CHH is trying to do there reviewable by WVHCRA? Does CHH have some considerable downside risk here; even if only to our reputation, that is currently one of our greatest assets? Can other hospitals object to this deal and demand an analysis for Competitive Impact by the WVHCRA? In Fairmont, other hospitals got involved in offering a "Partnership" arrangement. Just what, EXACTLY, does this mean? All CHH Employees should go to Point Pleasant, WV Topix site and do a search in the box on that site, just to see, to get a flavor for, what our hospital is about to get itself into. Once on the PP TOPIX SITE, search "PVH" . You cannot imagine what a cesspool that place seems to be. Better protect our hospital and our jobs if this is not a good move for CHH.
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