It should be legal to kill stray cats.

It should be legal to kill stray cats.

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Apathy

Summersville, WV

#1 Jan 25, 2012
I'm sick of seeing packs of stray cats all over Huntington. I think the city of Huntington should have an open season on ALL stray cats. Too all the cat lovers who read this and get their panties in a mega twist. I'm not talking about killing YOUR pet. I'm talking about the ones without an owner. The ones roaming the streets and alleys getting into peoples garbage and making a mess. There is a reason why there are so many cats still at the animal shelters and Little Victories hasn't been able to take in cats like the used to......its because noone wants them around!
Mirror

Summersville, WV

#2 Jan 25, 2012
There is absolutely NO difference between a stray and a feral cat. BOTH are INVASIVE-SPECIES that are destroying all the native wildlife (native prey becomes tortured cats' playtoys, native predators starve to death from INVASIVE-SPECIES cats destroying their ONLY food source). BOTH are spreading many deadly diseases to all other animals and humans (including even the plague today). BOTH are illegally trespassing on others' property. BOTH need to be destroyed on-sight, just like any other highly destructive invasive-species. Cats have NO RIGHT to be exempt from invasive-species laws, especially when they are listed in the TOP 100 WORST invasive species of the world.(Search the: Global Invasive Species Database)

Perhaps cat-owners should learn the distinction between being a responsible pet-owner and a criminally irresponsible one. If not, too bad. The rest of the world is not your pet's baby-sitter. A highly destructive INVASIVE-SPECIES pet at that. That's YOUR job to keep them from harm lest you be held criminally responsible for animal-abandonment, animal-endangerment, and animal-cruelty laws.

Would you care to watch out for the safety and well-being of about 150,000,000 pet piranha released into all your waterways, lakes, swimming areas, and backyard pools? It's the EXACT same thing that cat-owners would be requesting by having everyone treat their stray cats differently from feral cats.

ANY INVASIVE-SPECIES THAT IS RELEASED OUT INTO A HABITAT FOR WHICH IT IS NOT INTENDED, IS NOT AN INDIGENOUS ANIMAL, AND HAS NO PLACE IN THE NATIVE FOOD CHAIN NOT ONLY DESERVES TO BE BUT *NEEDS* TO BE DESTROYED.
Mirror

Summersville, WV

#3 Jan 25, 2012
Look up the term TNR advocates just LOVE to use on how they reduce their feral-cat numbers, their candy-coating feel-good term of "Death by Attrition". This means that their cats will die from disease, cat-attacks, animal-attacks, exposure, road-kill, starvation, and any other means that drastically shortens cats' lives. ALL their cats suffering for how many months it takes to die that way. In many parts of this country and the world this clearly falls under the guidelines for cruelty to animals, animal-abuse, animal-endangerment, and animal-abandonment laws.

Let's not forget how TNR advocates don't hesitate to carve up cats with scalpels as well as cutting off parts of their ears, from which they have to heal-up for weeks before they try to survive again. As if letting them die of "attrition" wasn't bad enough, TNR-advocates start them off by terrorizing them with traps, cages, and sticking knives into them first.

Not only are they cruelly torturing cats, but also all wildlife they inflict their cats upon. Their cats literally clawing the guts out of any wildlife to use it as an agonizingly and slowly dying twitching play-toy for their cats. And as soon as all the "fun" has drained out of their play-toy, they go on and find another one to torture. This is no different than if cat-owners went to a pet-store and bought canaries and hamsters then threw them at their cats to watch their cats tear them apart for their amusement. What about all the native predators that depend on all those animals for their ONLY food? Their cats cause all those animals to STARVE TO DEATH. TNR-advocates' cruelty knows no bounds.

If you want to raise revenue for your towns and cities in order to deal with this invasive-species ecological-disaster properly, start charging all these TNR advocates with severe fines and imprisonment for CRUELTY TO ANIMALS.

They're not doing this out of any goodness of their hearts. THEY DON'T HAVE HEARTS. Proved, 100%.
Mirror

Summersville, WV

#4 Jan 25, 2012
Trapping and/or sterilizing and testing as a solution is a failed concept from Day-One.

There are now about 150,000,000 INVASIVE-SPECIES feral-cats just in the USA, PLUS 86,000,000 pet-cats (60,000,000 of which are still allowed to kill all wildlife), this means the population is already oversaturated for a long time. Nobody wants more than 86,000,000 cats for pets. There's only 311,000,000 people in the USA. 2+ cats exist for every 3 people, from infant to senior. Thanks to those who outlawed destroying them in a more efficient, often more-humane, and more cost-effective manner by shooting them. While they also promoted their slow, random-chance, inefficient, and failed trapping programs. TNR people (criminally animal-abusive and irresponsible cat-hoarders in reality) will claim trap and kill is also a failure, and they'd be right. The problem has always been the trapping, slowing things down far below cats' breeding-rates.

Keep in mind their exponential growth-rate. An average litter of 5 cats every 5-6 months (some say 3X's a year), breeding as early as 6-months of age. 2 can become 42 (up to 252) cats in only 1 year. No amount of trapping them (if you could even get them all to enter traps), nor valuable resources (transport and vet costs, etc.), man-hours, nor money will ever catch-up to their growth rate. You have an ecological, human-health, animal-welfare, and financial disaster on your hands, ALL thanks to cat-lovers and TNR-advocates. The faster that cats are destroyed the better. Even using guns and having all stray and feral cats shot-on-sight we still might not be able to catch-up to their exponential growth. Not even until every last land animal (including humans) is gone from this earth, due to cats destroying the whole food-chain, with nothing but cannibalistic cats left walking the land. No exaggeration. Do the math. Ask any TNR group how many cats they've trapped. They haven't even begun to scratch the surface of the problem THEY CAUSED and are only exacerbating with their blatant lies and deceptions. Using the birth-rate [of (N/2) X 5)] every 6 months, guess how many feral-cats alone will be born just this year? 375,000,000 (1st gen)+ 937,500,000 (2nd gen)= 1,312,500,000. This is of course if they only breed 2X a year and not 3X a year. Add in the original breeding population and you have 150,000,000 + 1,312,500,000 = 1,462,500,000. Yes, nearly 1.5 BILLION cats. Got enough traps? Got enough centuries to trap them all while they're still breeding at exponential rates and still annihilating all wildlife? Trap-advocates cost you to lose the feral-cat-explosion race LONG ago.
Mirror

Summersville, WV

#5 Jan 25, 2012
On advice of the sheriff, I alone was able to completely rid my land of ALL these INVASIVE-SPECIES feral-cats by shooting. Cats had annihilated the native food-chain for ALL native wildlife, destroying not only all the prey that their cats disemboweled and cruelly tortured for play-toys, but all the predators that depended on that prey, starving all native predators to death as well.(Now there's REAL animal cruelty for you, caused by cat-lovers. They should all be in prisons for life.) Shooting cats is perfectly legal where I live, and is even a more humane method when done right than terrorizing trapping and animal-shelter methods. One moment they are happily stalking defenseless animals to cruelly torture again, the next they are dead and don't even know what happened. Making your land 100% cat-free is something that cat advocates haven't been able to solve nation-wide for 30-40 years. On my land only 1 person in only 2 seasons was able to accomplish what they couldn't attain in decades. Why is that? It's also been over a year since, guess how many replaced them. NONE. Another flat-out TNR LIE, their "vacuum effect". What replaced them is all the wildlife THAT *WAS* HERE AND BELONGED HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. It's time for you all to grow a spine and get enough strength-of-heart to do what needs to be done. If it's not legal where you live then use the "SSS Cat Management Program", for Shoot, Shovel, and Shut-Up. That's legal everywhere in the world. It may be the only thing that saves us from this ecological disaster caused by spineless and ignorant lawmakers, as well as all the heartless and disrespectful cat-advocates that they defend. Don't waste your time arguing with ignorant cat-lovers either, as I stupidly tried to do for 15 years. Just do what needs to be done FIRST. Only later, after you've made your land 100% cat-free should you take your time to try to educate the ineducable, as I am attempting to do now.
Mirror

Summersville, WV

#6 Jan 25, 2012
The Feral-Cat Solution:

Make new cat-ownership AND care-taking of feral-cats a felony, with fines and prison for anyone failing to comply until this ecological-disaster they created is brought under control by any and all means possible. Shoot-on-sight is without a doubt, the fastest, most humane, most economical (0.3 cent to 5 cents, a ONE TIME expense per cat, depending on ammo prices), and most effective method available. It's how I was able to LEGALLY rid my own land 100% of this invasive-species nightmare.(NONE have returned, the TNR-advocates' "vacuum effect" is a bald-faced lie. Native wildlife THAT BELONGED HERE replaced them.) This is the only method that doesn't endanger nor harass any other animals, as frequently happens with non-discriminatory random-chance traps, and is also the ONLY method faster than cats can out-breed and adapt to.(Cats that learned to evade traps are the next generations to try to destroy.) If it's not legal where you live then use the "SSS Cat Management Program" -- SSS = Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-Up. Avoid use of poisons if at all possible, that once entered into the food-chain, will go on to destroy more of the very wildlife that you are hoping to save from destruction by cats. Whatever you do, please bury or incinerate the carcasses so all the deadly diseases that cats now carry won't go on to further infect the native wildlife, nor any other humans that might come in contact with them.(Which now even includes the plague, Google that fun fact. Cats also pass their Toxoplasma gondii brain-altering parasites to your livestock through their cats' feces, which is how it gets into the food-chain and people contract it from eating undercooked meats.)
feline freddie

Lavalette, WV

#7 Jan 25, 2012
bullets are cheap. so is posison, but you cant shoot in the city and if u put posion out, too many other animals may get into it. i feel no sympathy for some stray cat (even if it belongs to someone) that gets eliminated.
Goz2Sho

Huntington, WV

#8 Jan 25, 2012
the level of anger here just proves how far some people feel that they are being pushed. I wouldn't write nine pages about, but it's just proves how bad it is here...and it IS AWFUL. They're everywhere.
jimmy

United States

#9 Jan 25, 2012
if someone poisoned my cat or shot it, you would have a bad accident later.
Humans have the hardest time grasping the fact that nature can take care of itself. it does not need our intervention. between all the "Green nazis" and tree hugger do gooders preoccupied with saving the planet (while they are actually doing nothing), you need to get a life. If a cat walks through my yard i am not offended. Cats, dogs etc do not live by our rules. they do not recognize property lines. You all are a bunch of angry people deep down. you are just taking out your frustrations from your job, kids, finances, impotence or whatever by killing animals.

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Since: Oct 11

Lakeville, IN

#10 Jan 25, 2012
I agree with all of the above. Problem is (also mentioned above), that the problem is worst inside the city, where you can't use guns. So, it becomes a virtual sanctuary/breeding ground for them. When they migrate to the outskirts of town and the suburbs is when they start affecting native wildlife.

I think pellet rifles should be allowed in city limits...maybe with a license requiring proof of a safety class for dispatching invasive species on urban/suburban areas. New pellet rifles capable of 1000fps are very capable of taking out cats, possum, large rats etc. and it can be done safely with proper training.

If we don't act fast, we'll be seeing more and more coyote inside the city and burbs looking for easy meals. I've already seen trail camera pics of coyote with cats (collar and all) in their mouths.
face

Summersville, WV

#11 Jan 25, 2012
maybe it should be legal to kill you. you're a piece of sh it

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Since: Oct 11

United States

#12 Jan 25, 2012
face wrote:
maybe it should be legal to kill you. you're a piece of sh it
Saving one cat is like a torture/death warrant for hundreds of other animals, so please elaborate. Or...can you not rationalize your viewpoint?
info

Point Pleasant, WV

#13 Jan 25, 2012
Apathy wrote:
I'm sick of seeing packs of stray cats all over Huntington. I think the city of Huntington should have an open season on ALL stray cats. Too all the cat lovers who read this and get their panties in a mega twist. I'm not talking about killing YOUR pet. I'm talking about the ones without an owner. The ones roaming the streets and alleys getting into peoples garbage and making a mess. There is a reason why there are so many cats still at the animal shelters and Little Victories hasn't been able to take in cats like the used to......its because noone wants them around!
I think hateful people should be taken out; like you. It's not the animal's fault. We are supposed to be the ones smart enough to have our pets fixed. I don't believe a cat can ask to be spayed or neutered. Stop trying to advocate killing innocent animals.
Mhmm

Huntington, WV

#14 Jan 25, 2012
I've seen more homeless bums on the streets of downtown Huntington than cats.... I think we should kill every living thing that doesn't live under a preapproved roof. Maybe we can make a giant bug bomb and pass out gas masks to the preapproved living creatures with homes... Take out everything except the preapproved!

Level 5

Since: Oct 11

Chicago, IL

#15 Jan 25, 2012
info wrote:
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I think hateful people should be taken out; like you. It's not the animal's fault. We are supposed to be the ones smart enough to have our pets fixed. I don't believe a cat can ask to be spayed or neutered. Stop trying to advocate killing innocent animals.
No, it's not the animals' fault. You are right about that. I don't think innocent animals should be killed. Cats are, by nature, predators...and kill MANY smaller prey animals. Are you advocating the killing of all of those animals? We're talking birds, mice, chipmunks, squirrels, etc. Because I don't understand your logic at all. You talk like your against killing of innocent creatures, yet you're advocating the killing of many,many more? What gives?
info

Point Pleasant, WV

#16 Jan 25, 2012
sempron wrote:
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No, it's not the animals' fault. You are right about that. I don't think innocent animals should be killed. Cats are, by nature, predators...and kill MANY smaller prey animals. Are you advocating the killing of all of those animals? We're talking birds, mice, chipmunks, squirrels, etc. Because I don't understand your logic at all. You talk like your against killing of innocent creatures, yet you're advocating the killing of many,many more? What gives?
That is nature. Survival of the fittest. Not angry humans killing with guns. Do you have to run your mouth every time i say something?

Level 5

Since: Oct 11

Chicago, IL

#17 Jan 25, 2012
info wrote:
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That is nature. Survival of the fittest. Not angry humans killing with guns. Do you have to run your mouth every time i say something?
You don't believe in survival of the fittest. Those cats could never survive in those numbers without people breeding them. Furthermore, "survival of the fittest" would suggest that I am more "fit", since I have a gun and can kill them at will. Therefore, you honestly don't believe in the idea at all, unless you support me killing them with my rifle.

Think before you speak. Otherwise, you sound like a fool.
info

Point Pleasant, WV

#18 Jan 25, 2012
I am the fool? In nature there are no guns! Give it up trash I have a masters degree. Go argue with your red, itching genitals! Since when do people breed cats? I thought they did it on their own. Open a book. "sempron" Do you mean "simple moron"?
lol

Hurricane, WV

#19 Jan 25, 2012
Who cares. If you catch a cat that was on Ur front porch, kill the bastard. It'll probably sit there and eat everything u feed it, showing u it has no way of eating. Worthless animal, why let it live to starve to death trying to survive out of huntingtons garbage.

Level 5

Since: Oct 11

Chicago, IL

#20 Jan 25, 2012
info wrote:
I am the fool? In nature there are no guns! Give it up trash I have a masters degree. Go argue with your red, itching genitals! Since when do people breed cats? I thought they did it on their own. Open a book. "sempron" Do you mean "simple moron"?
Wow. They give out Masters degrees to pretty much anyone, these days..lol!

You're right. We are not breeding cats. That's why every time my neighbor opens her front door, 10 of them come running for food. You can't possibly be serious.

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