Wondering

Glen Rose, TX

#45 Nov 11, 2012
Up Up and Away wrote:
<quoted text>
Just a reminder, if you get an ESD, some gov entity, probably city of Huntington, will get to appoint board members to the gov body of the ESD. State law requires a governing body. So you will lose control of your Fire Department.
The way you worded that makes me think that you believe I am a part of the fire department but I am not. I am just very grateful for what all they have been doing for the community and was trying to help find a way with their funds. After so many posts of people quoting how much they get and try to operate on AND be force to do just what City Hall wants to keep the help they get from them. I remembered that Hudson fire department tried to do one, from my understanding they made it all the way through to the votes and if you didn't know where to go vote for that one thing, than you just didn't vote. It was not listed at all vote posts only at the county court house annex. I don't have the time for anything extra right now and I don't think I could handle what all they deal with and be able to sleep at night.
I just did a search on google, and looked up info that way.
It does take lots of control away from the actual department members from what all I understand. The fire department might not even want to do this. It was a suggestion.
Wondering

Glen Rose, TX

#46 Nov 11, 2012
Stephen wrote:
If an ESD was created, the ESD board has to be elected by the citizens. To my best knowledge about ESD's, no one can be appointed to the board they have to be elected. Also any or all departments within the ESD continue to govern themselves.
Are you a part of Huntington Volunteer Fire Department or any other department?
If so do you think this ESD thing would be something the department would be interested in doing?
If so, what information could you provide to the community for us to understand it better?
Logic

Glen Rose, TX

#47 Nov 12, 2012
What if we the community, hosted a benefit for the Huntington VFD, an appreciation benefit. Something like a festival. Remember we used to have a carnival come there where the softball fields are and then booths over at Centennial Park. Have different stuff for all ages. All money raised should go to the VFD.
I'm not good at all this kind of stuff, I just remember we had something like that years ago for the City.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#48 Nov 12, 2012
I would love to see some "Meet and Greet"- Appreciation-get together in Huntington including the City Council, Mayor, and Fire Department. How could we make it happen?
diddly squat

Katy, TX

#50 Nov 16, 2012
Re Up Up and Away: ""You seem certain you know where I live. You say I live out out state. How do you know that for sure?""

1. Your posts showed another state when you posted.

2. YOU POSTED YOURSELF MANY MONTHS AGO THAT YOU HAD NEVER BEEN IN HUNTINGTON.

3. Instead of taking care of business in your own town/area, you cruise the boards trying to push other people to create chaos in their area.

4. You are a GESCHWATZ.

Since: Jul 12

Katy, TX

#51 Nov 16, 2012
diddly squat wrote:
Re Up Up and Away: ""You seem certain you know where I live. You say I live out out state. How do you know that for sure?""
1. Your posts showed another state when you posted.
2. YOU POSTED YOURSELF MANY MONTHS AGO THAT YOU HAD NEVER BEEN IN HUNTINGTON.
3. Instead of taking care of business in your own town/area, you cruise the boards trying to push other people to create chaos in their area.
4. You are a GESCHWATZ.
5. I am a pain in the butt.
6. I am the Mayor.
7. I am a troublemaker.
8. You are a wonderful person UP UP and Away.
YOu misread, there is some consensus you are the Mayor.
Lady Diamond

Lufkin, TX

#52 Nov 16, 2012
I was at the school program with my child and was watching the fire department setting up their stuff for the helicopter and saw the old man that i guess was the chief yelling at one of the guys working out there. Why sir was you yelling at that guy. How tacky of you to act like that in front of all of those kids and adults. You sir were acting like a child yourself. If he really did something wrong you should have pulled him to the side or something. If that is the way you act all the time i dont want you around if i ever need you. Guess this is why so many here think so poorly of you sir. It was really hard to explain to my child why you were yelling at one of your people.
Just Sayin

Katy, TX

#53 Nov 17, 2012
Lady Diamond,
Obviously you know very little about fire dept operations. Look at old fire pictures(or google fire dept images) and you will see a fire chief or fire official with a cone shaped device shouting instructions thru it.

In later years, he may have a battery powered smaller similiar device.

Today in more affluent departments, most firemen carry walkie talkies (Lufkin does)

There isn't time to go around pulling subordinates aside instructing them quietly. In that time your child may be burning to death (or otherwise dying).
Usually there is also a noise factor.
Don't talk (or post) Stupid.
Just Sayin

Katy, TX

#54 Nov 17, 2012
Also, I just went back and read this entire thread and I don't see a bunch of people posting their dislike or posting poorly of the chief.
Unbelievable

Ratliff City, OK

#55 Nov 17, 2012
Lady Diamond said "don't want you around if I ever need you". Such snarkiness. Bet you would beg to have him there if by chance you needed him.
Diddly squat

Katy, TX

#56 Nov 17, 2012
Sure was a good article by Mayor Woolbright in the Thursday, Nov 15 2012 Lufkin News on page 4A.
He even provided his personal eMail address.

SHEESH, I didn't realize I could write that well. lol

Nice picture and the title is:
HUNTINGTON HAS COME A LONG WAY

He said: "Just a few weeks ago I attended the Texas Municipal League, small cities, and problem-solving clinic in Willis, Texas. There were elected officials from all over East Texas in attendance. With this being a problem solving clinic, we all had plenty to talk about. There were things such as water, wastewater, solid waste, open meetings, open records, and not having enough money, just a few of the hot topics that were up for discussion."

Since: Jul 12

Katy, TX

#57 Nov 17, 2012
Diddly squat wrote:
Sure was a good article by Mayor Woolbright in the Thursday, Nov 15 2012 Lufkin News on page 4A.
He even provided his personal eMail address.
SHEESH, I didn't realize I could write that well. lol
Nice picture and the title is:
HUNTINGTON HAS COME A LONG WAY
He said: "Just a few weeks ago I attended the Texas Municipal League, small cities, and problem-solving clinic in Willis, Texas. There were elected officials from all over East Texas in attendance. With this being a problem solving clinic, we all had plenty to talk about. There were things such as water, wastewater, solid waste, open meetings, open records, and not having enough money, just a few of the hot topics that were up for discussion."
Thanks Diddly for the post. I missed the article in the paper. I read it now. I noticed the topics discussed at the meeting he was talking about. Hmmm, open records is a topic they discussed at this "meeting of the citieS" Perhaps the mayor will now understand that answering open records requests is the city's job and the city of Huntington is not being picked upon. Open records requests are happening at every practically every city.
Lady Diamond

Lufkin, TX

#58 Nov 18, 2012
@Just Sayin Don't treat me like a dumb bimbo just because I'm female. I may not know how to run a fire department but I do know business management and that is not it. I know the difference between someone being disciplined or directed and when someone is acting like a fool. The guy that he was yelling at was just standing there waiting to do his job when the old man came up and started yelling at him. It was the manner in which the old man was acting that is in question. You would think that being in front of that many people that there would be more professionalism. Also they all had radios that they were talking on. There are multiple threads hear filled with negative comments about the chief and his continued poor behavior.
@Unbelievable you actually cut out the most important part of that quote "If that is the way you act all the time" You would think that a man with all of his years of experience he would know how to act in public.
Smith

Covington, TX

#59 Nov 19, 2012
Lady Diamond wrote:
I was at the school program with my child and was watching the fire department setting up their stuff for the helicopter and saw the old man that i guess was the chief yelling at one of the guys working out there. Why sir was you yelling at that guy. How tacky of you to act like that in front of all of those kids and adults. You sir were acting like a child yourself. If he really did something wrong you should have pulled him to the side or something. If that is the way you act all the time i dont want you around if i ever need you. Guess this is why so many here think so poorly of you sir. It was really hard to explain to my child why you were yelling at one of your people.
I must agree with you about his actions. Very unprofessional! It was bad enough he was yelling but then he started waving his hands around at him, very obvious that he was upset/mad about something. I have heard that the big bald guy is running for the chief position. Maybe this is the reason he acted so poorly in public, irregardless his actions in that setting was very wrong, it was Career Day for the kids. I wonder if any children changed their minds about being a fireman when they grow up.

Since: Jul 12

Katy, TX

#60 Nov 19, 2012
Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
I must agree with you about his actions. Very unprofessional! It was bad enough he was yelling but then he started waving his hands around at him, very obvious that he was upset/mad about something. I have heard that the big bald guy is running for the chief position. Maybe this is the reason he acted so poorly in public, irregardless his actions in that setting was very wrong, it was Career Day for the kids. I wonder if any children changed their minds about being a fireman when they grow up.
I wasn't there to hear the yelling. From the accounts of the events I have read here, it sounds bad. Being yelled at in public is very intimidating and embarrassing. Other volunteer fireman might have felt they would or will be treated like that. I don't think this does good for the morale of the fire department or future members.
Vortex

Tokyo, Japan

#61 Nov 19, 2012
It is no surprise that Jerry acted the way he did. He has always had it out for "that tall bald guy" as Smith put it.

That is because he always corrects Jerry when he is wrong. He tries to make sure that the right thing is done. Jerry is using bylaws that are 20 years old, only word of mouth rules, nothing on paper, no structure and no organization.

Jerry abuses his power as chief to oppress everyone that is not for him or that tries to make changes for the betterment of the department. That is why I left the department. The "tall bald guy" wrote a pretty lengthy set of rules for Jerry to adapt and put in place and it still has not been done. That was over two years ago.

In the time that I was with the department, Jerry never tried to do anything to progress the department. The other guy in this discussion got lots of grants bringing tens of thousands of dollars for equipment and such. I remember him saying that Jerry kept trying to keep him from doing the grants and he finally said that he was just going to do it behind Jerry's back. Why would Jerry want to stop bettering the department.

If you think for one minute that another year of having Jerry as chief is what YOUR fire department needs, you need to get your head checked because you have a screw loose.

Mr. Mayor, Bruce, City Council members, please end this reign of terror that is going on with YOUR fire department and get someone in there that will make the changes needed to have a more professional department. If you can do that, I will be happy to come back and serve.
wrecked

Joaquin, TX

#62 Nov 19, 2012
the word that i got for someone inside is that jerry is changing the rules of the game to prevent the one you call the bald guy from running against him so jerry can continue to be chief and break some record. jerry is offering officers positions to some in trade for voting for him and not the bald guy. heard there was a long drawn out ordeal changing the rules so this could happen. this bald guy must be some kind of savior or something for jerry to be running scared like that.
but who wouldnt be know that not to long ago one of jerry's right hand men had been drinking at the station and was so drunk that he passed out and jerry walked in and found him and let him sleep it off at the station.
anyway, im with vortex, get rid of jerry. he is to stale and they need some fresh air and fresh ideas in there.
Logic

Lufkin, TX

#65 Nov 27, 2012
wrecked wrote:
the word that i got for someone inside is that jerry is changing the rules of the game to prevent the one you call the bald guy from running against him so jerry can continue to be chief and break some record. jerry is offering officers positions to some in trade for voting for him and not the bald guy. heard there was a long drawn out ordeal changing the rules so this could happen. this bald guy must be some kind of savior or something for jerry to be running scared like that.
but who wouldnt be know that not to long ago one of jerry's right hand men had been drinking at the station and was so drunk that he passed out and jerry walked in and found him and let him sleep it off at the station.
anyway, im with vortex, get rid of jerry. he is to stale and they need some fresh air and fresh ideas in there.
I have heard some of the same stuff about the great fire chief's recent actions. He sure sounds like he should be in the same category as Bruce and Betsy, using his power to bully over others. I am very close with an elementary teacher and it sounds like he made a huge impression on the school staff that day. Obvious to say, they was not happy at all with his actions in front of all the classes and some parents and the different ones that can out to participate in career day. I must agree with Lady Diamond when she said he was acting like a child himself, just from what I have heard. It's really sad to only be there to beat a record. That does not sound good for our community. If you are unfit to handle the job or your jealousy is the only reason you stay. Then you should rethink your position get back on the right track or move out the way and give it to someone that can.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#66 Nov 27, 2012
Over the years I worked, I sadly learned that people no matter how good or how diligent they are, they can be replaced, many times replaced with someone who doesn't do as good a job but replaced just the same. And the world keeps turning and hopefully no one dies as a result. Sometimes it's just the way it is.
phazed

Tokyo, Japan

#67 Nov 27, 2012
Well more shameful news starting to emerge from the fire department, seems that Jerry had lost several months worth of fire reports and blamed it all on the asst chief. The asst chief told Jerry the he was the one that took the reports and had not brought them back. Fortunatly after a few days they were found. Jerry did have them after all.

Next it seems that Jerry has forgotten the procedure on how to fuel up the trucks. He thought that he only needed the pin number to get fuel. Come to find out, he had to have a key to get fuel. One would think that he would have learned that lesson the first two times that it happened.

And to top that off, seems that Jerry has forgotten how to pump the fire trucks. Other members are having to show him how to pump the trucks time and time again. I recall a statement in another thread saying something to the fact of Jerry forgetting more that some will ever know. If this is what he is forgetting, we are all in trouble.

Jerry, you and all of your minions need to ride off into the sunset while you still have somewhat of a legacy left. Face it, you will not get your record that you keep hanging around to get. Your department and the citizens you have served are suffering all because you want your selfish record. Your department is not progressing at all. You will lie and say whatever it takes to get re-elected just so you can get closer to the record that you covet so much. You will never do anything more for your department except walk all over those who stand in your way of your record. What good is it going to do to have a record when your legacy and name is tarnished so bad because of the final years of service was spent being a horrible leader. People will only remember the little bit of bad insted of all of the good that came from all of those years of service. Face it, you are done.

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