Former police chief provided investig...

Former police chief provided investigative services to city

There are 72 comments on the Whittier Daily News story from Aug 10, 2010, titled Former police chief provided investigative services to city. In it, Whittier Daily News reports that:

A former co-worker of the interim city administrator and the city's police chief for two days was also being paid by the city to provide investigative services, according to documents.

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crazy

Montebello, CA

#1 Aug 10, 2010
I believe it was Bill Molinari that gave the go ahead to Narramore to investigate the Athens Contract for the commmercial waste pickup. I can't believe that these Councilmembers along with the Mayor say they didn't know anything about this. They are suppose to check the expenses in the City and they are the one's that o.k . the payments accordingly. This Council is worthless. The City is broke but yet we are spending money that we certainly don't have and doing an investigation on an existing Contract is not a priority. We the citizens are left without any services on Friday and that's what they should be worried about.

“Montebello Homeowner”

Since: Jul 09

Montebello, CA

#2 Aug 10, 2010
Investigations?

Since when does the City have the right to conduct "confidential investigations" into private citizens.

There are NO DOCUMENTS to back up the claims that it was for new employees, and what new employees? The city is laying off people. No one has been hired except Rulon.

It all sounds fishy to me. It sounds like certain council members and Narramore were conducting investigations into their enemies.

Richard Nixon rises from the dead!

“Hilltop Park Above All”

Since: Sep 08

Montebello, CA

#3 Aug 11, 2010
After Robert Urteaga, the city has the DUTY to investigate potential employees, who, by applying for a position with the city, are no longer 'private citizens,' but people that the city has the right and responsibility to find out about. There is nothing untoward or illegal going on, as indicated in the story.

The main problem is that Narramore appears to have left his desk in disarray and is in no hurry to help the city or reporters by explaining exactly what happened and why.

It would be improper to reveal the work product of potential employees, especially if they are not hired. It was entirely proper for the city attorney to refuse to disclose confidential information about people who may not be hired.

Contrary to false allegations by MH, there is nothing improper anywhere in this story, except for a temporary paperwork disarray caused by Narramore's embarassing exit.
Blinkie

La Habra, CA

#4 Aug 11, 2010
Well, he got the council under the clause. How about a motion at tonights meeting to revoke the city administrators ability to use $50,000.00 for professional services with out council approval. A positive step moving forward.

“Hilltop Park Above All”

Since: Sep 08

Montebello, CA

#5 Aug 11, 2010
Blinkie wrote:
Well, he got the council under the clause. How about a motion at tonights meeting to revoke the city administrators ability to use $50,000.00 for professional services with out council approval. A positive step moving forward.
I don't see why not. I believe that it was the gang of three that increased that amount from $25,000 to $50,000, and I thought Rosie was wrong to do it at that time.
mtb877

Waianae, HI

#6 Aug 11, 2010
42 yr North Mtb resident wrote:
<quoted text>I don't see why not. I believe that it was the gang of three that increased that amount from $25,000 to $50,000, and I thought Rosie was wrong to do it at that time.
Bill Molinari was Mayor at the time and he approved it. Once again, 42 yr Nrth Mtb resident, aka Molinari's Mouthpiece, is misleading the people who read this blog.
mtb877

Waianae, HI

#7 Aug 11, 2010
42 yr North Mtb resident wrote:
After Robert Urteaga, the city has the DUTY to investigate potential employees, who, by applying for a position with the city, are no longer 'private citizens,' but people that the city has the right and responsibility to find out about. There is nothing untoward or illegal going on, as indicated in the story.
The main problem is that Narramore appears to have left his desk in disarray and is in no hurry to help the city or reporters by explaining exactly what happened and why.
It would be improper to reveal the work product of potential employees, especially if they are not hired. It was entirely proper for the city attorney to refuse to disclose confidential information about people who may not be hired.
Contrary to false allegations by MH, there is nothing improper anywhere in this story, except for a temporary paperwork disarray caused by Narramore's embarassing exit.
42 yr North Mtb resident must be Bill Molinari ;) because he "knows" everything. Let's look at this logically, we heard that over 40 people applied to be Chief of Police. If Rulon was asked to investigate all applicants, Montebello taxpayers would be paying him a lot more that $6,000. So, we have to assume it was not ALL applicants that were investigated (and I agree with that - only those offered jobs should be investigated). But Molinari's mouthpiece writes, "...by applying for a position with a city......(applicants) are no longer 'private citizens'.... No, 42 yr North Mtb resident, you are wrong (as usual). The question is: Who did the City investigate? If there is nothing to hide, the City can easily say the names of the people who were offered jobs and then were subjected to a background check. Again, 42 yr North Mtb resident is giving his opinion but trying to sell it as fact. Finally, I believe 42 yr North Mtb resident would be foaming at the mouth if this was a story written at the time of Urteaga, Salazar and Vasquez and demanding a DA investigation for improper investigations.
ole Bob

United States

#8 Aug 11, 2010
Will the backdoor deals ever stop?
south montebello resident

Montebello, CA

#9 Aug 11, 2010
mtb877 is absolutely correct. If this had been anyone else besides Molinari, he would have called for a full DA investigation! Sorry 42 yr. but only Bill's campaign gets that privilege.
Bill and Randy were tight. It just seems too coincidental that HUD and CRA funds were utilized with no paperwork and now these payments to Rulon with no paperwork.
Can anyone else say Bill and Randy are the TWO stooges?
Again, 42 yr. tries to push blame on Urteaga and divert it from bill and Randy.
Just another GLARING example of how terrible our city is being run. And we start from the top.
Come on Bill, just retire and die somewhere, will ya? You are a cancer to our city and an embarrassment to our community.
Come on Chris Robles, recall Bill!!!

Let's see...
2 DA investigations directed at his campaign.
Improper CRA transfers.
Fraudulent HUD documentation.
No city administrator
No police chief
No fire chief
No hr director
No finance director
No leadership
No cohesiveness in our council

Come om people, how long do we have to put up with this f*#ktard Bill Molinari?
Something Fishy

Montebello, CA

#10 Aug 11, 2010
"We're trying to find out what we were paying Mr. Rulon for," Barajas said. "Right now nobody seems to know what it was for, so that's what we're asking."
"We want full transparency and backup documentation for any item that is paid out by this city," she said.
"No city contracts or agreements with Rulon could be located in response to a public records request by this newspaper".

Why does this sound eerily like the CRA and HUD funds mess from a few months ago?
Why are the same people around back then around right now?
I see three common people. They are Bill Molinari, Randy Narramore and Arnold Glassman. All three were in charge when all three of these illegal activities were taken place.
Something Fishy

Montebello, CA

#11 Aug 11, 2010
42 yr North Mtb resident wrote:
After Robert Urteaga, the city has the DUTY to investigate potential employees, who, by applying for a position with the city, are no longer 'private citizens,' but people that the city has the right and responsibility to find out about. There is nothing untoward or illegal going on, as indicated in the story.
The main problem is that Narramore appears to have left his desk in disarray and is in no hurry to help the city or reporters by explaining exactly what happened and why.
It would be improper to reveal the work product of potential employees, especially if they are not hired. It was entirely proper for the city attorney to refuse to disclose confidential information about people who may not be hired.
Contrary to false allegations by MH, there is nothing improper anywhere in this story, except for a temporary paperwork disarray caused by Narramore's embarassing exit.
I'm sorry 42 yr. resident, but when you hire a potential police chief to do "side work" and you don't communicate that to your council, then there's a problem.
As for your "disarray" statement, I'm sorry but that is inexcusable at best and laughable at worst. If Mr. Narramore had left his position in "disarray", then he never should have received any type of severance package. Also, where is the paperwork? Obviously Mr. Narramore did not go through proper channels when paying Mr. Rulon or there would be sufficient paperwork to back up the expense. I must agree with mtb877, if this had been with anyone other than Randy or Molinari, or especially Vasquez, Salazar or Urteaga, you would have been screaming "CORRUPTION" at the highest level. You seem to defend Molinari and Narramore as well as Gomez at every turn, yet you always seem to blame the previous council for all the city's woes. Well sir, as it has been stated here before many times and I will state it again, Your people seem to be the ones at the center of investigations and it seems your people are getting caught more and more. However, I would like to know your opinion on one thing if you don't mind. How did you feel about Narramore hiring Rulon in the first place and do you think Narramore should have given his recommendation to the council prior to hiring him?
MUSD Teacher

Whittier, CA

#12 Aug 12, 2010
News Flash! I'm glad I just subscribed to the Whittier Daily News e-edition. I can't wait to show these stories to our students!
Blinkie

La Habra, CA

#13 Aug 12, 2010
If the city needs to investigate folks they can get the Lexus Nexius program for a small fee and check on folks. It shows everything. It could also be a valuable tool for the police department. Again, the council needs to revoke the city administrators ability to use $50,000.00 for professional services. I am sure this initially came about YEARS ago (Like during the Truman administration) when folks were moral and did the right thing. And back in the day, I am sure the 5 members were informed as to why the funds were spent and what for. Times have changed and so have people. Make a motion to take away the blank check. Problem solved. I will personally voulenteer to go through all the city codes laws ect to point out all the loopholes where the city can get ripped off so positive changes can be made.
mtb877

Orange, CA

#15 Aug 12, 2010
south montebello resident wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go, trying to lay blame on someone else! You are so freakin' pathetic! I asked Bob Bagwell last night and he said the amount was $50,000.00 when he was mayor. Please do not make statements that are untrue. You claim to only state facts yet this is ANOTHER example of how untrue that statement is.
BTW, Rosie could not do it at the time, even if she had wanted to. Remeber dickbrain, it takes three votes, not one.
42 yr. you are really showing how much of a retard you are. You give people with mental challenges a bad name. You really need to go and live with Trash talk and theolona. i'm sure you three would be very happy together! LOL!!!
Mr. Bagwell is wrong. Bill Molinari was mayor when City Administrator Torres asked for the amount to be increased to $50,000. Rosie Vasquez did not initiate it and 42 yr North Montebello resident is NOT writing the truth (and he knows it!). I agree with you that 42 yr Noth Montebello resident is always looking to blame Vasquez, Salazar and Urteaga for everything while defending Molinari at every level, even if it means spreading lies and misinformation. Fortunately, it seems most everybody writing here, with the exception of Thealona Ranger (Loner) understands and acknowledges that 42 yr North Montebello resident writes whatever Molinari (and Chris Robles) tells him. One day he will realize that he has been used.
mtb877

Orange, CA

#16 Aug 12, 2010
south montebello resident wrote:
mtb877 is absolutely correct. If this had been anyone else besides Molinari, he would have called for a full DA investigation! Sorry 42 yr. but only Bill's campaign gets that privilege.
Bill and Randy were tight. It just seems too coincidental that HUD and CRA funds were utilized with no paperwork and now these payments to Rulon with no paperwork.
Can anyone else say Bill and Randy are the TWO stooges?
Again, 42 yr. tries to push blame on Urteaga and divert it from bill and Randy.
Just another GLARING example of how terrible our city is being run. And we start from the top.
Come on Bill, just retire and die somewhere, will ya? You are a cancer to our city and an embarrassment to our community.
Come on Chris Robles, recall Bill!!!
Let's see...
2 DA investigations directed at his campaign.
Improper CRA transfers.
Fraudulent HUD documentation.
No city administrator
No police chief
No fire chief
No hr director
No finance director
No leadership
No cohesiveness in our council
Come om people, how long do we have to put up with this *****#ktard Bill Molinari?
As much as I agree with (almost) everything you say, I say Chris Robles is just as responsible as Molinari for what's gone on in Montebello for he past decade. Robles has been saying he would recall Molinari since last year but done nothing! Maybe it's a ploy to stop other people recalling Molinari. So, if you want Molinari recalled - don't wait for Robles.
theolona ranger

United States

#17 Aug 12, 2010
If the City does not currently have an investigator they need to get one.
There ae serious conflict of interest and Section 1090 problems that need to be fully revealed.
We know that Randy was hot on the trail.
Was that Rulon's work?
An Auditor?
This is not the time for the council to let up.
Montobello Homowner talks about "private Citizens"
does that includ John Edwards and Nick Pacheco?
City needs to look at all of tehm past and present.
south montebello resident

Montebello, CA

#18 Aug 12, 2010
mtb877 wrote:
<quoted text>
Mr. Bagwell is wrong. Bill Molinari was mayor when City Administrator Torres asked for the amount to be increased to $50,000. Rosie Vasquez did not initiate it and 42 yr North Montebello resident is NOT writing the truth (and he knows it!). I agree with you that 42 yr Noth Montebello resident is always looking to blame Vasquez, Salazar and Urteaga for everything while defending Molinari at every level, even if it means spreading lies and misinformation. Fortunately, it seems most everybody writing here, with the exception of Thealona Ranger (Loner) understands and acknowledges that 42 yr North Montebello resident writes whatever Molinari (and Chris Robles) tells him. One day he will realize that he has been used.
Well, you could be right. As much as I like Mr. Bagwell personally, I never like him politically and I know he was not always on top of things with the city. God bless him though, he is one hell of a nice guy.
south montebello resident

Montebello, CA

#19 Aug 12, 2010
mtb877 wrote:
<quoted text>
As much as I agree with (almost) everything you say, I say Chris Robles is just as responsible as Molinari for what's gone on in Montebello for he past decade. Robles has been saying he would recall Molinari since last year but done nothing! Maybe it's a ploy to stop other people recalling Molinari. So, if you want Molinari recalled - don't wait for Robles.
You could be right also with Robles. I would NEVER trust him or believe anything he says. He is a great Allie, but a terrible enemy.
south montebello resident

Montebello, CA

#20 Aug 12, 2010
theolona ranger wrote:
If the City does not currently have an investigator they need to get one.
There ae serious conflict of interest and Section 1090 problems that need to be fully revealed.
We know that Randy was hot on the trail.
Was that Rulon's work?
An Auditor?
This is not the time for the council to let up.
Montobello Homowner talks about "private Citizens"
does that includ John Edwards and Nick Pacheco?
City needs to look at all of tehm past and present.
Are they going to hire an investigator and not do the proper paperwork also, like Randy did?
south montebello resident

Montebello, CA

#21 Aug 12, 2010
Something Fishy wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry 42 yr. resident, but when you hire a potential police chief to do "side work" and you don't communicate that to your council, then there's a problem.
As for your "disarray" statement, I'm sorry but that is inexcusable at best and laughable at worst. If Mr. Narramore had left his position in "disarray", then he never should have received any type of severance package. Also, where is the paperwork? Obviously Mr. Narramore did not go through proper channels when paying Mr. Rulon or there would be sufficient paperwork to back up the expense. I must agree with mtb877, if this had been with anyone other than Randy or Molinari, or especially Vasquez, Salazar or Urteaga, you would have been screaming "CORRUPTION" at the highest level. You seem to defend Molinari and Narramore as well as Gomez at every turn, yet you always seem to blame the previous council for all the city's woes. Well sir, as it has been stated here before many times and I will state it again, Your people seem to be the ones at the center of investigations and it seems your people are getting caught more and more. However, I would like to know your opinion on one thing if you don't mind. How did you feel about Narramore hiring Rulon in the first place and do you think Narramore should have given his recommendation to the council prior to hiring him?
Thank you Fishy for voicing what we already know. No matter how much is thrown at Bill Moilnari, no matrter how much evidence is pointed at him, 42 yr. will use the retard method to try and divert the truth in order to defend Bill.
If ANY of these things happened on Rosie's watch as mayor, he would have screamed "corruption" across the board.
Like you said, it's funny how 42 yr. uses the word corrupt when describing the previous council and their supporters yet it seems molinaris campaign is under investigation for voter fraud and all these improprieties are happening while he's in charge.

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