Racism alleged as kids barred from Pa. swim club

A Philadelphia camp director says parents of some minority children asked not to return to a suburban private pool are contemplating legal action after some kids said they heard racial comments. Full Story
sarcasm man

Bellefonte, PA

#614 Jul 16, 2009
Chicago Guy wrote:
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I think it would be great if this pool closed.
Why should only the black children have to face the consequences of these white parents' behavior?
Now their own kids will learn a valuable lesson about discrimination, and it's negative consequences.
your thought process baffles me. Instead of letting kids from the swim club interact with a diverse race they may not interact with on a daily basis, learning that despite what they may have heard from their parents that the "black kids" aren't as bad as they're lead to believe. On the flip side the day care kids could learn about standing up for what is right, and that despite what some of the members said not everyone is racist and there are some good "white folks".
Now you tell me which actually would help destroy a wall that, in many peoples views, divide this country...destroying the club, or including everyone. I guess not using logic must be "the Chicago way"
Mizz Bee Haven

United States

#615 Jul 17, 2009
ROFLMAO wrote:
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How do you raise taxes on the Welfare recipients ?
Just wait until you pull up to the pump and shell out $5 a gallon for gasoline.
$2 goes to Texaco Corp,$1 in taxes will go to the state, and a new $2 environmental tax will go to the federal government. The gas pump doesn't ask if you're on wellfare. Blacks families will pay the tax every time they fill their tank. True, white families will also pay the tax too, but that won't ease the financial burden for anyone.
Chicago Guy

Winnetka, IL

#616 Jul 17, 2009
Mac-7 wrote:
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I was reacting to Cali4NADreamn's suggestion that blacks are horribly mistreated in this country which would somehow justify reverse racism agains whites.
It is not governments job make up for racial discrimination against one group by sticking it to another group in retaliation.
Who's proposing we do that? And what does the government have to do with this pool?

BTW-- the fact that you "haven't seen" a double standard in the way stores treat blacks and whites is meaningless. Why WOULD you have noticed such a thing?? You're white.

Here's some homework for you. Find 5 black people, and ask THEM about their experiences shopping, and whether they feel they're treated differently than whites.
Chicago Guy

Winnetka, IL

#617 Jul 17, 2009
sarcasm man wrote:
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your thought process baffles me. Instead of letting kids from the swim club interact with a diverse race they may not interact with on a daily basis, learning that despite what they may have heard from their parents that the "black kids" aren't as bad as they're lead to believe. On the flip side the day care kids could learn about standing up for what is right, and that despite what some of the members said not everyone is racist and there are some good "white folks".
Now you tell me which actually would help destroy a wall that, in many peoples views, divide this country...destroying the club, or including everyone. I guess not using logic must be "the Chicago way"
I don't know what you're talking about.
A poster was lamenting that the white kids at this club were being punished unfairly if the pool closes. I just made the point that if their parents' bigotry caused it, then they should suffer for it.
That would be quite a learning experience, IMHO.
BTW the camp was invited back to the pool, and they declined to go. I guess these children have lost their enthusiasm for going to a place where they were treated like thiefs and animals, when all they wanted to do was have a swim in the pool. Can't say as I blame them.

“Did U plug the damn hole yet?”

Since: Jan 08

Richardson, TX

#618 Jul 17, 2009
Chicago Guy wrote:
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Who's proposing we do that? And what does the government have to do with this pool?
BTW-- the fact that you "haven't seen" a double standard in the way stores treat blacks and whites is meaningless. Why WOULD you have noticed such a thing?? You're white.
Here's some homework for you. Find 5 black people, and ask THEM about their experiences shopping, and whether they feel they're treated differently than whites.
"Who's proposing we do that?"

Any liberal who supports affirmative action for blacks in order to "level the playing field."

And from my conversations with them that means practically every Obama voter.

"Why WOULD you have noticed such a thing?? You're white."

The lib poster making the claim was white too.

What makes them more liable to notice than me?

I'll answer the question for you.

I'm just as likely to know as they would.
su par

Deland, FL

#619 Jul 17, 2009
TO CHICAGO GUY: I am of Southern Euro extraction. and can pass for many cultures depending on the time of the year. I have been to many a store where the security followed me around. From electronics to human. The funny thing is, many of the human were African American. Or maybe it was not funny,
Chicago Guy

Winnetka, IL

#620 Jul 17, 2009
su par wrote:
TO CHICAGO GUY: I am of Southern Euro extraction. and can pass for many cultures depending on the time of the year. I have been to many a store where the security followed me around. From electronics to human. The funny thing is, many of the human were African American. Or maybe it was not funny,
It's not really funny at all, but I don't doubt for a second that it's true.

There have been quite a few studies on this very thing, and in fact that negative black stereotypes that taint America's view of blacks also apply to the blacks, themselves.

This is only one of the very real and chronic repercussions of systemic racism.
Chicago Guy

Winnetka, IL

#621 Jul 17, 2009
Mac-7 wrote:
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"Who's proposing we do that?"
Any liberal who supports affirmative action for blacks in order to "level the playing field."
And from my conversations with them that means practically every Obama voter.
"Why WOULD you have noticed such a thing?? You're white."
The lib poster making the claim was white too.
What makes them more liable to notice than me?
I'll answer the question for you.
I'm just as likely to know as they would.
I'm not making the claim on my own personal experience. I'm basing it on articles and studies I've read, and anecdotal evidence from black people I've heard discussing it.

You really should take your head out of the sand and look around every once in a while.
Mizz Bee Haven

United States

#622 Jul 17, 2009
su par wrote:
TO CHICAGO GUY: I am of Southern Euro extraction. and can pass for many cultures depending on the time of the year. I have been to many a store where the security followed me around. From electronics to human. The funny thing is, many of the human were African American. Or maybe it was not funny,
I don't know why someone would follow you around in a store. However, when shopping at Walmart, I've sometimes chosen a longer checkout line simply because I would be standing behind a couple of teenage Latina girls in tight pants.
boss

Orlando, FL

#623 Jul 18, 2009
"Complexion of our Pool"

white people are really brave
su par

Deland, FL

#624 Jul 18, 2009
TO MIZZ BE HAVEN: Please explain your response!
pool time

AOL

#625 Jul 18, 2009
I think it's nice that all them whites looked out for all them blacks so they would not have drowned. Its nice to see blacks and whites getting along . I wonder if they showered before getting in the pool.

“hey U.S.A follow arizona”

Since: Aug 07

ARIZONA

#626 Jul 19, 2009
Chicago Guy wrote:
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Who's proposing we do that? And what does the government have to do with this pool?
BTW-- the fact that you "haven't seen" a double standard in the way stores treat blacks and whites is meaningless. Why WOULD you have noticed such a thing?? You're white.
Here's some homework for you. Find 5 black people, and ask THEM about their experiences shopping, and whether they feel they're treated differently than whites.
blacks are treated the same as whites in stores. money is money, no matter who spends it. i work in a store. i treat white and blacks the same. my company needs there money. i have some folks that come in and are just plain nuts. white and black, it is those folks i treat differant. look for bad treatment and you will find it even if it is made up. so get off your racist soap box. anyone who thinks it is back of the bus for blacks, is racist, black or white

“hey U.S.A follow arizona”

Since: Aug 07

ARIZONA

#627 Jul 19, 2009
Mizz Bee Haven wrote:
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I don't know why someone would follow you around in a store. However, when shopping at Walmart, I've sometimes chosen a longer checkout line simply because I would be standing behind a couple of teenage Latina girls in tight pants.
how can anyone know that electronics is following them? i am white, and depending what i am wearing, i get followed around. sometimes i look like a bum if i am working on a project at home, and go to wal mart for parts. as far as the long line, well i do that too
former republican

Browns Mills, NJ

#628 Jul 19, 2009
rick haynes wrote:
<quoted text>blacks are treated the same as whites in stores. money is money, no matter who spends it. i work in a store. i treat white and blacks the same. my company needs there money. i have some folks that come in and are just plain nuts. white and black, it is those folks i treat differant. look for bad treatment and you will find it even if it is made up. so get off your racist soap box. anyone who thinks it is back of the bus for blacks, is racist, black or white
Based on your speling, I would guess that you are poor white trash,(white people don't like y'all either.) reminds them of blacks. that said, you should not treat ANYBODY different. you don't know what their circumstances are. Your racism is showing and you are full of shit, go to the bathroom and release yourself.

“hey U.S.A follow arizona”

Since: Aug 07

ARIZONA

#629 Jul 19, 2009
former republican wrote:
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Based on your speling, I would guess that you are poor white trash,(white people don't like y'all either.) reminds them of blacks. that said, you should not treat ANYBODY different. you don't know what their circumstances are. Your racism is showing and you are full of shit, go to the bathroom and release yourself.
well from reading these posts, you would think all the blacks are college educated, but to talk to them, you can't understand a word they say. so you keep on correcting spelling, and dont youworry about the subject at hand. and yes i live in a house on wheels, big deal. i have a house, why dont you go out and help the blacks that dont have a home at all.
orphanannie

San Antonio, TX

#630 Jul 19, 2009
alice...apparently you haven't opened your eyes lately...
unless you are not human, you poop just like everyone else, bleed just like everyone else, and consume just like everyone else..
grow up.
Your thoughts will turn your brain to a hardened walnut.
sicko.
UR A SICKO

Wilmington, DE

#631 Jul 20, 2009
rick haynes wrote:
<quoted text>well from reading these posts, you would think all the blacks are college educated, but to talk to them, you can't understand a word they say. so you keep on correcting spelling, and dont youworry about the subject at hand. and yes i live in a house on wheels, big deal. i have a house, why dont you go out and help the blacks that dont have a home at all.
you sound very uneducated and that comes from a white woman.. you sound really racist and sounds like you need a reality check we are in 2009 get off judging ppl for their skin color and worry about yourself sounds like you might have your own insecurities that you need to be worried about ....good day to you sir..........

Since: Aug 08

San Francisco

#632 Jul 20, 2009
rick haynes wrote:
<quoted text>blacks are treated the same as whites in stores. money is money, no matter who spends it. i work in a store. i treat white and blacks the same. my company needs there money. i have some folks that come in and are just plain nuts. white and black, it is those folks i treat differant. look for bad treatment and you will find it even if it is made up. so get off your racist soap box. anyone who thinks it is back of the bus for blacks, is racist, black or white
I guess some people live in boxes or shells. How can you really not see these things or know about them or believe them???? Because it's easier to pretend in fantasy land that none of it still happens??!!

I didn't have to "look for bad treatment" it was right there in front of me every day.

Blacks & whites are treated the same, money is money. Really. Go into Washington, DC or Baltimore or Dallas. Try to get a cab driver to take you to certain parts of town. Won't happen. Even if you have a wad of dollar bills in your hand.

You just admitted in your own statement that YOU treat people differently based on race. So, see there IS a difference isn't there? Even though you probably don't even realize you are doing it.

It must be very dark there --- with your head all the way up your ass!

And all these kids wanted to do was swim for a few hours!

“hey U.S.A follow arizona”

Since: Aug 07

ARIZONA

#633 Jul 21, 2009
Cali4NADreamn wrote:
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I guess some people live in boxes or shells. How can you really not see these things or know about them or believe them???? Because it's easier to pretend in fantasy land that none of it still happens??!!
I didn't have to "look for bad treatment" it was right there in front of me every day.
Blacks & whites are treated the same, money is money. Really. Go into Washington, DC or Baltimore or Dallas. Try to get a cab driver to take you to certain parts of town. Won't happen. Even if you have a wad of dollar bills in your hand.
You just admitted in your own statement that YOU treat people differently based on race. So, see there IS a difference isn't there? Even though you probably don't even realize you are doing it.
It must be very dark there --- with your head all the way up your ass!
And all these kids wanted to do was swim for a few hours!
i never said i treat people differant because of there race, itreat people the same. i said we have some white folks that i wouldnt give a ride to anywhere. blacks and whites come to where i work, and they all get treated the same.

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