Racism alleged as kids barred from Pa...

Racism alleged as kids barred from Pa. swim club

There are 598 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Jul 9, 2009, titled Racism alleged as kids barred from Pa. swim club. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

A Philadelphia camp director says parents of some minority children asked not to return to a suburban private pool are contemplating legal action after some kids said they heard racial comments.

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Comcastic

Bensalem, PA

#30 Jul 10, 2009
Vince wrote:
I was at a pool once where a black kid took a dump in the shallow end. The kids mother looked at it and laughed. She then got angry and called a white person a racist just because she was told to clean it up.
Thats the most out of this world comment you could have posted who cares and i put money on it that you are 1000% lieing.LMAO
Comcastic

Bensalem, PA

#31 Jul 10, 2009
Blacks sux wrote:
why not just kick their ass? Or at least drown them.
Whites that are racist make them selves look real scared and intimadated of people of another color.Com mon Sense.Quit being racist and worry about all these white men rapping kidnapping and molesting your own people.Molesting your white children.Its a 20000000%fact that are on the top list of Megans Law.
aau

AOL

#32 Jul 10, 2009
netizen wrote:
Well, there goes the swiming pool (too...). I'd be interested to know of any--any--neighborhood in America that became improved, upscaled and more desirable after it became a predominately Black 'hood. Honestly. And, here in the Philadelphia region, many fine areas have been reduced and ruined by Blacks. Truly. So, "here, here" for Huntingdon Valley swim club for wanting to maintain something better. Sheesh.
I grew up in a neighborhood that was all white. We had a private pool and had events for jr AAU; also the pool was used for people who paid dues in the summer.
One summer, a few blacks and their mothers came to join. They actually had a nice recreational pool in 'their area' that was on their address. Basically, in so many words, they were saying we are here to take over. The wimpy whites left the pool only to join another in a nearby county. That was in the 80s. Today, the place is a mess as I drove by it. Trash was allover the fenced area and the pool was 100% black people, even the lifeguard that was reading a sports ill. magazine(against the law here where I live to read anything if you are a LG).
Imagine if Phelps went there? Actually he wouldn't because the AAU does not have any more events and those small basketball goals are on the side of the 5ft section. Pot is his choice of drug and crack would cause him to drown.
aau

AOL

#33 Jul 10, 2009
Comcastic wrote:
<quoted text>Thats the most out of this world comment you could have posted who cares and i put money on it that you are 1000% lieing.LMAO
that actually happened in Bush Gardens. A black kid crapped in the large pool and cost BGW thousands to drain the large Water Country Pool. Not to mention many of the parent(s) had to take their kids to have blood work in case of a disease. True Story, but kept quiet.

“If The Shoe Fits”

Since: Feb 08

Medina, Ohio

#34 Jul 10, 2009
Retired Soldier wrote:
What part of private doesn't anyone understand?
"Private" gives the members the right to allow or not allow guests or members for what ever reason they want.
Liberals, be very careful. Once you take away private clubs and organizations ability to choose its members or guests, you also take away your right as a private citizen to do the same.
Keep up your bleeding heart bullshit and it will only be a matter of time before you, the private citizen, are not able to choose who or who is not welcome in your private residence.
You are correct except for the fact that they signed an agreement to allow these people to swim there at certain times.
lookup

Westminster, MD

#37 Jul 10, 2009
and they say that york countians are racist! bigotry exists everywhere. but is this racist? remember this is a private club and iam not making excuses for the club. i as a minority would not join this club.
su par

Deland, FL

#40 Jul 10, 2009
Meanwhile in Akron, Ohio another case of love shoved under the mat......The money is running dry and the educated are becoming poor....not good...
JRab

Mississauga, Canada

#43 Jul 10, 2009
Wow...based on 90% of the comments on here (which are ignorant and racist) I'm happy to say I'm no longer a Hanover resident. I feel pity for all of you with such closed minds. I was born and raised in Hanover. My family still resides there, so I visit frequently. I thought the town had evolved, but maybe I'm wrong.

RealMusicFan

“I'm Joe Cool”

Since: Dec 07

Wasilla

#44 Jul 10, 2009
We can only hope that they will lose their private club in the lawsuit and it will be open for all children.
A Real American

Hendersonville, NC

#49 Jul 10, 2009
I Have no idea why all the talk about our military on a thread, which is clearly about rascism, But I am retired military (medically 100%)after many years of service. I am proud to have servd my country and although I didn't support all of Bushes decisions they themselves could not take away from the dignity and integrity of my service.

As far as those children who were turned away from that pool, I watched it on the news and shook my head in shame.

There is no way that it wasn't a clear display of rascism. This kind of action in todays society is apalling. I wonder how the majority of those people would feel or how outraged they would be had it been reversed.

I hope that they sustain suitable punitive damages as a result of a lawsuit. I guess those in the area must feel real good about themselves about preventing a group of children from enjoying a summers day at a pool.

One question that was never answered is how can they say it was private when they were allowed entrance and then asked to leave? So how can they say it wasn't rascism?

I served in the military alongside all races, and I can tell you from multiple deployments, WE ALL BLEED RED.

Did I mention I was White.
Amanda

Haughton, LA

#51 Jul 10, 2009
Chicago Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, yeah? And it just happened to be on the day that the black kids were there?
So the fact that the white parents all took their kids out of the pool and stood with their arms crossed, or the fact that the kids said they heard racial slurs, were all incidental??
Or how about the fact that club President John Duesler said that the children had changed "the complexion" and "atmosphere" of the club??
Yeah, no racism here. Way to blame the victims.
Have you ever been ANYWHERE and a day camp shows up with 30+ kids?

No matter what race the kids are, the atmosphere and complexion immediately changes.

Whether it's the mall food court, a movie, a park, a playground, swimming pool, or even McDonalds, a group with a ratio of 8 kids to 1 "adult" brings chaos anywhere. Does this day camp even have that low of a ratio?

What "fact" that all the white parents took their kids out and stood there with arms crossed? Were you there? Did you verify that any kids taken out of the pool were taken out because of race?

I can tell you that if a large group of kids showed up at a pool, I'd take my kid out in a second if I felt it was unsafe. Unsafe not because of race, but because in a crowded pool, it's harder to maintain safety standards.

The "fact" that some of the kids say they heard racial slurs doesn't make it true. Ever hear the story about the city councilman somewhere who claimed that a scientist talking about a "black hole" in space was being racist?

The fact about what the president of the club said does not make it a racist statement. The word complexion means more than skin color.

A private club that bans all day cares and day camps is not racist.
A Real American

Hendersonville, NC

#52 Jul 10, 2009
Paul wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, if my posts are incorrect, please explain how I am close-minded. Not that it should matter but to avoid being stereotyped let me tell you about myself.
I am married to a hispanic women, we each have graduate degrees, we live in the city, we have traveled all over latin America. My family is half-Jewish and my closest friends are hispanic and Asian. However, one thing my wife and I and our Asian firends agree on: poor, uneducated, black people are a problem and are disgusting.
I guess poor uneducated hisopanics or asians aren't a problem or disgusting.

Every race, has people who do not display the best that society can produce . It is prejudicial to say one is better than the others.

I guess you don't claim Asian or hispanic Gangs of being the best product of your heritage, or do you. You want to peg yourself as better than another race , perhaps it would be better you clean up your own back yard, first.

For someone who is half Jewish as you say, I have to wonder why isn't it you don't understand persecution at any level. Perhaps before you put yourself above anyone you should review your own history and ask yourself, I wonder how my forefathers felt.
manny

Westminster, MD

#53 Jul 10, 2009
Paul wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, if my posts are incorrect, please explain how I am close-minded. Not that it should matter but to avoid being stereotyped let me tell you about myself.
I am married to a hispanic women, we each have graduate degrees, we live in the city, we have traveled all over latin America. My family is half-Jewish and my closest friends are hispanic and Asian. However, one thing my wife and I and our Asian firends agree on: poor, uneducated, black people are a problem and are disgusting.
your wife must be hispanic of european bacground! remember european hispanics are just as racist. black hispanics are discriminated against in the island.
George

Marshall, VA

#54 Jul 10, 2009
Shoe wrote:
<quoted text>You are correct except for the fact that they signed an agreement to allow these people to swim there at certain times.
Want to bet that the person from the club who signed the agreement gets fired?
Amanda

Haughton, LA

#55 Jul 10, 2009
Quote from the director of the camp:

"But she says shortly after they arrived June 29, some of the children said they heard people asking what "black kids" were doing at the pool."


Like it or not, asking why black kids are at the pool is not racist.
A Real American

Hendersonville, NC

#56 Jul 10, 2009
You should know wrote:
<quoted text>
This kind of ignorance makes me sad. How many swimming pools are there in Zimbabwe or Haiti? None, because blacks aren't smart enough to develop and maintain them on their own.
Unfortunately your ignorance is a result of niether having traveled outside of the U.S. or just plain being uneducated.

I worked for a tanning company back in the late 70's "Hoyt & Worthing" out of Haverhill , MA. they had plants in Haiti and theswimming pools were state of the art for the time. I will also tell you that I worked with many Hatians and people from the Dominican Republic and they were very welcoming and friendly people.
A Real American

Hendersonville, NC

#57 Jul 10, 2009
Amanda wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you ever been ANYWHERE and a day camp shows up with 30+ kids?
No matter what race the kids are, the atmosphere and complexion immediately changes.
Whether it's the mall food court, a movie, a park, a playground, swimming pool, or even McDonalds, a group with a ratio of 8 kids to 1 "adult" brings chaos anywhere. Does this day camp even have that low of a ratio?
What "fact" that all the white parents took their kids out and stood there with arms crossed? Were you there? Did you verify that any kids taken out of the pool were taken out because of race?
I can tell you that if a large group of kids showed up at a pool, I'd take my kid out in a second if I felt it was unsafe. Unsafe not because of race, but because in a crowded pool, it's harder to maintain safety standards.
The "fact" that some of the kids say they heard racial slurs doesn't make it true. Ever hear the story about the city councilman somewhere who claimed that a scientist talking about a "black hole" in space was being racist?
The fact about what the president of the club said does not make it a racist statement. The word complexion means more than skin color.
A private club that bans all day cares and day camps is not racist.
Then explain the fact they were allowed entrance in the first place and then asked to leave.
Amanda

Haughton, LA

#58 Jul 10, 2009
Shoe wrote:
<quoted text>You are correct except for the fact that they signed an agreement to allow these people to swim there at certain times.
Which they rescinded and gave a full refund.
manny

Westminster, MD

#59 Jul 10, 2009
why do you people on here make such nasty comments about blacks! what makes you think you are so perfect and so clean! take a good look at yourself, your family & friends and tell me if they are perfect, i know a lot of white people that leave their dogs & cats pee & poop in the house! should i judge every white? no and that does not make them dirty! so stop with your racist comments, do you ask for forgiveness at church after making racist comments. remember god doesnt judge us by our color!!!!
Chicago Guy

Chicago, IL

#60 Jul 10, 2009
Tony wrote:
How about the story from Ohio where a white family was beat up by a gang of 12+ blacks, shouting, "it's a black world"? They don't think that a hate crime though and of course the major networks have completely avoided reporting it.
Can you post a link to this "story"?

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