Mothers that leaves their children

Mothers that leaves their children

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Hazlehurst GrandMaMa

Milton, FL

#1 Jul 11, 2014
My grandchild is 7 years old and her mother has left her. Her mother moved to Stanley NC to ride motorcycles with some guy named Greg. She does call her everynight, I guess thats her way to reach out & touch!! I feel she has become to LAZY to take care of her child and wants to feel 16. She didn't have this child until she was 32 years old!! Can anyone explain to me why a mother would leave her child for a MAN???

Since: Jan 14

Waynesville, NC

#2 Jul 11, 2014
Root cause analysis would be difficult to assess without lots more detail and intimate knowledge of the situation.

Generically speaking, those that are active in a good church don't do such things. There are a lot of reasons why this is. Since we're dealing in generalities, that's a good a place as any to determine "what went wrong". Religion establishes a moral set of ethics and a supreme being that is judge and jury. If you have no moral code of ethics and no supreme being that will hold you in account for your adherence to them, anything goes.
Hazlehurst GrandMaMa

Milton, FL

#3 Jul 11, 2014
Scott-L wrote:
Root cause analysis would be difficult to assess without lots more detail and intimate knowledge of the situation.
Generically speaking, those that are active in a good church don't do such things. There are a lot of reasons why this is. Since we're dealing in generalities, that's a good a place as any to determine "what went wrong". Religion establishes a moral set of ethics and a supreme being that is judge and jury. If you have no moral code of ethics and no supreme being that will hold you in account for your adherence to them, anything goes.
Thanks, I know you are right about church! She was baptized 2 yrs ago but quit going about 6 months later.
Kayla

Concord, NC

#4 Jul 13, 2014
Dumb
John

Erin, TN

#5 Jul 13, 2014
LMAO, Church ruins people.

Since: Jan 14

Charlotte, NC

#6 Jul 14, 2014
John, you obviously are referencing something other than a "good church". Come to my church and we'll un-ruin you.
Lucy

Laurel, MS

#7 Jul 16, 2014
John wrote:
LMAO, Church ruins people.
Spot on! Spot on. People thought Jesus was mad at the Temple, just wait till he see's what has been done with the Church.

Since: Jan 14

Charlotte, NC

#8 Jul 16, 2014
Lucy wrote:
<quoted text>Spot on! Spot on. People thought Jesus was mad at the Temple, just wait till he see's what has been done with the Church.
Lucy, how do you think your Creator would respond to your excuses? It was Jesus who told Peter to build a church. And it was Jesus who showed how the church is to hold people into account for their actions in Matthew 18:

"If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

Isn't this EXACTLY the circumstance we are referencing? A parent objects to her child's behavior. The child will not respect the parent's point of view. The disagreement ought to then be settled in the church. If the child does not have a church, then all is lost.

If you do not agree with the sex with boys in the Catholic church, find another one. If you do not agree with the judgment that Baptists typically have, find another one. If you don't agree with gay pastors, don't join an ELCA church. But if you can't find any church that suits you and gives you and your family a moral foundation, you are not following Jesus' word in accordance with Matthew 18.

Since: Jan 14

Charlotte, NC

#9 Jul 16, 2014
An afterthought, if you think Jesus was mad at the Temple, then you must know that it's not the church that "ruins" people. That had something to do with Adam and Eve. So fallible people are intended to gather to collectively learn and support each other. Different denominations highlight different aspects and use varying methods. But all Bible-based religions ought to have the same objective: to overcome or live better with original sin and resist more things that are not right in the fallen world.

(I am certainly not a preacher -- but even I know that part!)
wow

United States

#10 Jul 17, 2014
lol those in the church are the worst ones most of the time and church of god is the worst
Scott-L wrote:
Root cause analysis would be difficult to assess without lots more detail and intimate knowledge of the situation.
Generically speaking, those that are active in a good church don't do such things. There are a lot of reasons why this is. Since we're dealing in generalities, that's a good a place as any to determine "what went wrong". Religion establishes a moral set of ethics and a supreme being that is judge and jury. If you have no moral code of ethics and no supreme being that will hold you in account for your adherence to them, anything goes.

Since: Jan 14

Charlotte, NC

#11 Jul 17, 2014
wow wrote:
lol those in the church are the worst ones most of the time and church of god is the worst <quoted text>
"Those in the church" ought to include YOU if you believe in God. If not, then you are a hypocrite. I do not make that statement as an insult -- just as an accurate description:

noun
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

If you do not have a church, then your "morals" are your own. You get to decide what is good and descent. And that, my friend, is exactly my point. If you have the belief that the morals people in church do not fit you, then it's likely you are deficient in that area as God would judge as determined by lots of very smart people who make generations of study on God's word. You, my friend, do not have the knowledge and expertise to outsmart thousands of scholars in language, history, religion, and science. Is it YOUR rules, morals, and justification that will be used at the gateway to Heaven? Is your plan to negotiate with God? Or to bring your best excuse to the gate?

I am one of "those in church". I see all types there. I like that everyone just seems to want to understand more and reflect internally how to live their lives better -- using God's words as the basis for understanding. I also meet some people in church with whom I likely wouldn't agree on a social level. But then, while in church, we've got a common foundation and none of that social contention has an opportunity to present itself. Give it some thought. It's not a bad way to live.

As for the "Church of God" denomination, what is it about that denomination that gives you the opinion that they are worse than other denominations?

Since: Jan 14

Charlotte, NC

#12 Jul 17, 2014
Bringing my point home.... To the woman who has the daughter who deserted her child, well, that's HER morals. And in her mind, she justified it. Someone taught her that it's ok to do what she thinks is right. Someone forgot to teach her to do what God thinks is right.
Fallen

Erin, TN

#13 Jul 21, 2014
.... and God warns, beware who you follow, for they may lead you down the wrong path.

I have always felt that Satan is working through the Church, he is leading people down the wrong path.

What better way to trick people?

I do not mean all Churches, but a majority.

One time I needed help , and the Church turned me away.

When I was young, I would be laughed at and made fun of because I was poor, and did not have "fancy" clothes.

I am a very firm believer in God, I read the Bible daily, but I will never set foot in a Church again.

Religion has also got their hands to much into Politics.
They have helped create an America opposite from what it was suppose to be.

This Country is worse today, than what we founded it on over 200 years ago.

Politics and Religion mixed, unfair taxes, high taxes, taxes on everything you can think of.

Is that not why we got away from Britain to begin with? It is now cheaper to live in Britain than in America, and you have way more Freedoms and Liberties there than here.

Just my take on it. Seems Americans continue to vote for the worst person whenever they vote. Over, and over again.

Since: Jan 14

Oviedo, FL

#14 Jul 21, 2014
Fallen, You have many valid points. However, if you attended my church and we turned you away because of only not having fancy clothes, I would not stand for it. My church actually goes out to advertise open doors for the hungry -- I hear about times where nobody comes to receive meals -- but we will continue to open our doors regardless.

Having you turned away not only was not helpful to you, it was a missed opportunity for the church to practice what they preach. sometimes us fallible humans needs reminders and to be held into account for our actions and inactions. But it's also important to have appropriate kinds of help.

I would encourage you to write a nice, thoughtful letter privately to the pastor/preacher of the church that turned you away. It would give them something to consider for their next sermon. If there was some specific reason you were turned away, perhaps they would return your letter telling you the reason. I can't imagine it, but it does sometimes become appropriate to turn someone away from the church.

I was once on a church council. We turned someone away once because she was living on church grounds as a charity of sorts. Her teenage son was inviting young women into the living quarters and things occurred that were not proper in accordance to the morals of the church. After increasing warnings, the mother gave an ultimatum and caused a condition where she had to leave. In my opinion, that was an appropriate time to turn someone away. I suppose she has her justifications and reasons and side of the story. Simply put, her morals and values did not match those of the church and she refused to respect the church's morals and values to the point where she had to leave.

Since: Jan 14

Oviedo, FL

#15 Jul 21, 2014
Fallen, I think you would appreciate this clip:



And it's up to good people to be sure satan does not win. I do my part, What about you?

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