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#21037 Jan 22, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
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What Republican said what I just said? Did I say "all of the increases" or did you add that yourself? For someone who prides themselves on citing sources, you sure don't mind inserting things you need to change the meanings to fit your "counterpoints". The question is, do you believe the "new and improved" post after you have edited it? I think you do.
I said "Republican talking points"

A simple definition of talking points is a short list of statements that summarize the organization's stand on a particular issue, or an explanation.

Most people would not relate the term, "talking points", to one individual.


I did not edit anything, if you will look those two post had the two different sources, both drawing the same conclusion.
Old Army

Greenbrier, AR

#21038 Jan 22, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
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Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Dr. Martin L. King
OA, I do believe this is the fight Redd was speaking of.
I also believe you already new that.
I'm not "The cabbit", and you sir, are no Martin Luther King, Jr.

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#21039 Jan 22, 2013
Post Turtle wrote:
If you can somehow force a liberal into a point- counterpoint argument, his retorts will bear no relation to what you've said -- unless you were in fact talking about your looks, your age, your weight, your personal obsessions, or whether you are a fascist. In the famous liberal two-step, they leap from one idiotic point to the next, so you can never nail them. It's like arguing with someone with Attention Deficit Disorder.
Tell you what, I do believe I fit your description of a Liberal.

I will happily volunteer to engage you in a QUOTE,

"point- counterpoint" debate any time of your choosing, and then

let us determine how much of your theory is correct, and see if

you can match wits with this "ADD" type of person .


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#21042 Jan 22, 2013
Old Army wrote:
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I'm not "The cabbit", and you sir, are no Martin Luther King, Jr.
Then again you are acting like you did not know that.

You make it hard to give you the benefit of the doubt, when you keep taking it away.

BTW- I know you are not "The cabbit", that was why I addressed you in the latter part of that post.

Because you use a quote from someone what the hell makes you think the person who used it thinks they are that person, or claiming to be like him?

THE ANSWER- its the pretentious personality of the author.


Old Army

Greenbrier, AR

#21043 Jan 22, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
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Then again you are acting like you did not know that.
You make it hard to give you the benefit of the doubt, when you keep taking it away.
BTW- I know you are not "The cabbit", that was why I addressed you in the latter part of that post.
Because you use a quote from someone what the hell makes you think the person who used it thinks they are that person, or claiming to be like him?
THE ANSWER- its the pretentious personality of the author.
Lord have mercy.
Post Turtle

Salem, AR

#21044 Jan 22, 2013
I guess obama thinks his Socialist utopia will be better. He fashions himself savior of the poor and disenfranchised. Like most liberals, he does not want to accept the harsh realities of life. He made it under America's "unfair" system, so that makes him a hypocrite by wanting to "fundamentally transform" America. As for Obama's family, they will have it made, no matter how horrible the economic conditions get. His plans already in place, and those yet to come, will also crush the very people he is claiming to help. All it takes for our economy to go into turmoil is the Arab countries refuse to take U.S. dollars for payment for oil or China to refuse to lend us more money. Obama seems to be sincere in helping the downtrodden, but I believe he works for those who are trying to bring about a New World Order. He is a very dangerous man.
Old Army

Greenbrier, AR

#21045 Jan 22, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>King was a liar and a disgusting human being.
You're FullOfShit.
Barney Party

Jonesboro, AR

#21047 Jan 22, 2013
Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago ?


Body count: In the last six months 500 killed (murdered) in Chicago.


More school age children shot and killed than the recent massacre in Connecticut.


221 killed in Iraq - AND Chicago has one of the strictest gun laws in the entire US.


President: Barack Hussein Obama


Senator: Dick Durbin


House Representative: Jesse Jackson Jr.


Governor: Pat Quinn


House leader: Mike Madigan


State Atty. Gen.: Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike)


Mayor of Chicago: Rahm Emanuel


The leadership in Illinois - all Democrats.


All who you can thank for the combat zone in Chicago.


Of course, they're all blaming each other.


Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!


Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country.


Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!


State pension fund $78 Billion in debt, worst in country.


Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!


Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country.


Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!


This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois.


And he is going to 'FIX' Washington politics for us??? What a crock of dog squeeze......


George Ryan is no longer Governor, as he is now in the big house (prison). Of course he was replaced by Rob Blajegovitch who is... that's right, also in the big house. And Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. resigned a couple of weeks ago. That is because he is fighting being sent to... that's right, the big house.


The Land of Lincoln is now where their ex-governors make license plates.


But you know what? As long as they keep providing entitlements to the population of Chicago, nothing is going to change, except the state will go broke before the country does.


Oh Yeah, and don’t forget, don’t blame Republicans; there aren’t any!

Billy McGraw

Forsyth, MO

#21048 Jan 22, 2013
Romney all the way!
Robert E Lee

Salem, AR

#21049 Jan 22, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe you are too young to remember. Maybe you never had a history lesson. Maybe you don't want to hear the truth.
King was an admitted adulterer. He was busted with other women many times. This made him a lousy father. He lied to his wife and to his family. He cheated those closest to him. A man who will lie to his wife will lie to EVERYBODY else. That is a fact. Sorry to burst your little hero king bubble. He was a PATHETIC human being.
He started countless riots, Who knows how many were killed because of king. And how many millions of dollars in tax money went down the toilet because of king. To blacks hero's come very cheap. Yes he was a PATHETIC human being no doubt.
the cabbit

Bono, AR

#21050 Jan 22, 2013
Nice report Barney party. Very detailed . You did get one fact wrong. The mayor is nonpartisan. Not democratic.
dont know nothin

Yakima, WA

#21051 Jan 22, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>"i did not ever say i did not know when it will end i said it will end in 2014 presumably"
LOL! Now you "presume" it will end. I thought Obama was going to bring our children home. Our children are dying on foreign soil everday for nothing. Obama has blood on his hands. He kills women and children from the sky with his drones, he even killed an American citizen without due process and he ensures our children are killed daily over there. He KILLS Mexicans by allowing weapons to be smuggled across our border which in turn they come back to this country and KILL our children fighting against such a thing. Obama is a KILLING MACHINE pure and simple.
My "presume" was in the context of my response from which your babbling originated so get it right. It is much better to send an unmand drone rather than sending thousands of soldiers to die overseas like Bush. He has killed the families, men, women, children, brothers, sisters, mothers, wives, uncles, and aunts of our ENIMIES and i do not care about such acts being commited because it is war and i DO NOT sympathize for or with our enimies. If you sympathize for them then by all means convert your religion and go join the terrorist. Obama does not allow and would not allow guns to be illegally sold and transported accross the boarder. We all have police and those around the boarder have boarder patrol. Those are directly involved in town and city activities and if they CANNOT do their job in a productive manor then maybe we need different officers and patrol agents. The fast and the furious case was do to igorance on the state and local level and has not been pushed as a crime and NOONE on the executive or attorney general level have been convicted of ANY crime. Ignorance spuing out of a thoughtless mouth is what got republicans into the mess they are in now in the general public's eyes and your a prime example of their problem.
dont know nothin

Yakima, WA

#21052 Jan 22, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
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The first part I believe could come true if Obama wasn't trying to push the green energy agenda so hard. He only wants us energy independent if, and only if, we do it without oil. I would suspect that all his cronies, like Al Gore, have a monopoly on green energy. That way they all get filthy rich and claim they are saving the planet. We all know the oil industry is the sole reason for all of our greenhouse gasses and global warming because Obama said so. I'm sure he doesn't have an alterior motive.
All that i stated was true and came from a credible source and agency. He has increased the production of natural gas production along with green energy; both will help the U.S. become energy independant. Please do not speculate and fear mongor thoughtless ideas that would not and is not ever going to be true not matter how bad you want or think they will be. You are onlly fear mongoring and throwing out conspiricies instead of looking for the truth. Scientist and researchers all over the planet have determined that the crazy weather we are experiencing and the change in average temperatures is solely due to the increase in greenhouse gasses the biggest of which is OIL and carbon gases not because obama says so. We alone do not have enough oil to sustain our country for decades let alone centuries. Why do you think we imported most of our oil until late? You keep believing all the conspiricies you can come up with and we'll see who's right in the end.

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#21053 Jan 22, 2013
the cabbit wrote:
Nice report Barney party. Very detailed . You did get one fact wrong. The mayor is nonpartisan. Not democratic.
He/she got more than one wrong,

"Body count: In the last six months 500 killed (murdered) in Chicago"

Chicago experienced its 500th murder of the year on Thursday night, when a 40-year-old man was shot to death in the Austin neighborhood. It was only the second time in the last ten years the city has reached that mark. In 2008, 513 people were murdered.

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Wha...

By Edward McClelland
| Friday, Dec 28, 2012 | Updated 7:15 a.m. CST

I bet you would like us to think those 500 murders were by gun too , don't you.

How about estimated 76.4% were by fire arms.

That would be about 380 murders caused by firearms in a city with a population of over 2.7 million people in 2012.


That means that only 0.00014074074% of the population of Chicago were victims of gun violence.

And why don,t you find out how many of those murders were committed with assault weapons that are banned there?


Looks like those stick gun laws are doing a good job.

I would share thanks for that with the Chicago Republicans , but I hear there are none.


dont know nothin

Yakima, WA

#21054 Jan 22, 2013
Post Turtle wrote:
I guess obama thinks his Socialist utopia will be better. He fashions himself savior of the poor and disenfranchised. Like most liberals, he does not want to accept the harsh realities of life. He made it under America's "unfair" system, so that makes him a hypocrite by wanting to "fundamentally transform" America. As for Obama's family, they will have it made, no matter how horrible the economic conditions get. His plans already in place, and those yet to come, will also crush the very people he is claiming to help. All it takes for our economy to go into turmoil is the Arab countries refuse to take U.S. dollars for payment for oil or China to refuse to lend us more money. Obama seems to be sincere in helping the downtrodden, but I believe he works for those who are trying to bring about a New World Order. He is a very dangerous man.
lol i have never seen such fear mongoring conspirices in my life. Your belief without looking at facts holds no water and is only believed by the simple minded folks on here and the ignorance of your constituants. Noone should care what you believe because you do not know directly what is going on or what is happening in the world or country. You take the news from friends and family and media and then interpret them into your own belief of what is and what should happen. You clearly have no interest in finding the cause, means, or truth behind whatever subject or news is being laid out or made and instead look for the shortcut or change in such issues to support your own agenda.This quote is a prime example of what YOU believe no matter who comes at you with either the truth or just more conspiracies. "I believe he works for those who are trying to bring about a New World Order. He is a very dangerous man." That quote alone proves just how ignorant you are and how much you are willing to avoid the truth instead of accept it and look for ways to better the country instead of hinder them like you and your party have done for years now.

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#21056 Jan 22, 2013
dont know nothin wrote:
<quoted text>My "presume" was in the context of my response from which your babbling originated so get it right. It is much better to send an unmand drone rather than sending thousands of soldiers to die overseas like Bush. He has killed the families, men, women, children, brothers, sisters, mothers, wives, uncles, and aunts of our ENIMIES and i do not care about such acts being commited because it is war and i DO NOT sympathize for or with our enimies. If you sympathize for them then by all means convert your religion and go join the terrorist. Obama does not allow and would not allow guns to be illegally sold and transported accross the boarder. We all have police and those around the boarder have boarder patrol. Those are directly involved in town and city activities and if they CANNOT do their job in a productive manor then maybe we need different officers and patrol agents. The fast and the furious case was do to igorance on the state and local level and has not been pushed as a crime and NOONE on the executive or attorney general level have been convicted of ANY crime. Ignorance spuing out of a thoughtless mouth is what got republicans into the mess they are in now in the general public's eyes and your a prime example of their problem.
You made all these claims about Obama's gun policies, but failed to support your theories. I once again had to fact check a statement. I made many strange findings. We are selling many weapons to Muslim countries. Shown in this report.http://www.nytimes.com/ 2012/08/27/world/middleeast/us -foreign-arms-sales-reach-66-3 -billion-in-2011.html?_r=0

The whole "I don't care about the death of women and children" makes you look like a sociopath. Also it's spelled ignorance not "igorance".

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#21057 Jan 22, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>Hey dumb ass, Fast and Furious was an OCEDFT Operation conducted by the ATF with cooperation from the DEA, FBI, IRS and Attorney Generals Office. I was a soldier for the Federal Government for decades. I have forgotten more about Operations Orders than you will ever know. Obama has blood on his hands. He and Erik Holder are responsible for the murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and ICE Agent Javier Zapata both great Americans!
You are great American too Shawn !

Love your show..........


dont know nothin

Yakima, WA

#21058 Jan 22, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:

<quoted text>Maybe you are too young to remember. Maybe you never had a history lesson. Maybe you don't want to hear the truth.
King was an admitted adulterer. He was busted with other women many times. This made him a lousy father. He lied to his wife and to his family. He cheated those closest to him. A man who will lie to his wife will lie to EVERYBODY else. That is a fact. Sorry to burst your little hero king bubble. He was a PATHETIC human being.

All that you have stated were allegations and he never openly admitted to committing adultery. These men however have been openly trutheful about their actions or have been caught with no comment:
1. President George H.W. Bush allegedly had an LTR with British-born Jennifer Fitzgerald that lasted at least two decades, all while married to Bar, who said,“He didn’t even notice when I stopped coloring my hair.”

2. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, famously married to Maria Shriver since 1986, is allegedly a purveyor of prostitutes, the father of at least one child out of wedlock and a serial groper of women in workplace situations.

3. Sen. John McCain, 2008 Republican presidential frontrunner, and admitted adulterer and alleged philanderer.[Update July 2008: McCain’s Extramarital Affair with Cindy Ended His Friendship with Reagans in the 1970s]

4. Rudolph Giuliani, former mayor of New York City and another GOP 2008 presidential contender, betrayed his second wife, TV presenter Donna Hanover, with his “very good friend” Judith Nathan, whom he has since married. Hanover also publicly accused Rudy of having an affair with a staffer, Cristyne Lategano-Nicholas.

5. Rush Limbaugh, comedian,(a.k.a.“Rusty Sharpe”) dated Marta Fitzgerald while she was married to someone else. Marta later became his third wife.(He and CNN’s Daryn Kagin recently stopped dating.)

6. Bill O’Reilly, propagandist, who is married to Maureen McPhilmy, tried to have phone sex with Andrea Mackris, who sued him for sexual harrassment.

7. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, is probably the most audacious serial adulterer in any political party.

8. Former Rep. Bob Barr’s notoriety as an adulterer was one of many ironies around the so-called Defense of Marriage Act (DoMA) which he wrote, and which was passed with the leadership of fellow adulterers Sen. Majority Leader Bob Dole and House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

9. Rep. Henry Hyde, who served as chairman of House Mangers in the adultery-related impeachment of President Clinton, was a home-wrecker himself. Hyde had an affair when he was a young and foolish man of 41 while he and his girlfriend were both very much married. Her husband later said Hyde broke up his family.

10. Gary Bauer, professional moralizing Christian nationalist, experienced a mutiny when he was running for president when actual Christians on the staff of his 2000 presidential campaign quit in protest over Bauer’s “inappropriate” behavior with a 26-year-old deputy campaign manager.

All of these cases have been proven true and can be looked up with evidence supporting these adulterer cases. Next time you decide to disgrace someones name why don't you look at what your own leaders have been caught doing.

Since: Dec 12

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#21059 Jan 22, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>Hey dumb ass, Fast and Furious was an OCEDFT Operation conducted by the ATF with cooperation from the DEA, FBI, IRS and Attorney Generals Office. I was a soldier for the Federal Government for decades. I have forgotten more about Operations Orders than you will ever know. Obama has blood on his hands. He and Erik Holder are responsible for the murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and ICE Agent Javier Zapata both great Americans!
Many politicians have blood on their hands not just Obama. Bush too. Also is you wanna go down the line. Lets do it.

George Washington: war with Native Americans in Ohio
Thomas Jefferson: Tripolitan War, 1800-1805, against the Barbary pirates
James Madison - War of 1812, 1812-1814, against the British
James Monroe - First Seminole War, 1817-1818
Andrew Jackson - Black Hawk War, 1832
Martin Van Buren - Aroostook War, 1839; Second Seminole War - ended 1842
William Henry Harrison - Second Seminole War - ended 1842
John Tyler - Second Seminole War - ended 1842
James Polk - Mexican War
James Buchanan - beginning of the Civil War
Abraham Lincoln - Civil War, 1861-1865
William McKinley - Spanish-American War, 1898; Boxer Rebellion, 1899-1900
Woodrow Wilson - WWI, 1914-1918
Warren Harding - formally concluded WWI
Franklin Roosevelt - WWII, 1941-1945
Harry Truman - conclusion of WWII, Korean War - 1950-1953
Dwight Eisenhower - conclusion of Korean War
John Kennedy - Bay of Pigs Invasion, 1961; beginning of Vietnam War
Lyndon Johnson - Vietnam War, Dominican Republic, 1965
Richard Nixon - Vietnam War
Ronald Reagan - Grenada Invasion, 1983
George Bush - Invasion of Panama, 1989-1990; Persian Gulf War, 1990-1991
George W. Bush - War against the Taliban, Iraq, 2001 to present.

Great list.
dont know nothin

Yakima, WA

#21060 Jan 22, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>Hey dumb ass, Fast and Furious was an OCEDFT Operation conducted by the ATF with cooperation from the DEA, FBI, IRS and Attorney Generals Office. I was a soldier for the Federal Government for decades. I have forgotten more about Operations Orders than you will ever know. Obama has blood on his hands. He and Erik Holder are responsible for the murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and ICE Agent Javier Zapata both great Americans!
Hey ignorant low life, Fast and Furious was not even heard of by the attorney general's office of the U.S. If it was a local conducted operation that at least the state autorney general should have heard about it, but yet they are denying involvement as well. Which puts the case into local authorities hands and it was them who set up the sting that failed and it was the right wing media who tried to portray it as the U.S. Attorney general and the president that were the ones directly involved. What those people needed to do was accept their faults instead of trying to pass blame. The hearing and case have been reviewed along with all the evidence that was involved and the people that were involved. IT IS OVER, NOONE was convicted of a CRIME period! It was an operation that went wrong and was being looked at until republicans jumped the gun and held the attorney general in contempt when there was no need to. Also, do not try and use your background as a military grunt as your cause for knowing so much about this case because it is irrelevant and does not perceive you to be an expert on the subject.

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