pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#314 Nov 19, 2013
James wrote:
<quoted text>
I can't hardly wait.
Dream on. You'll be waiting a long time.
James

Grand Rapids, MI

#315 Nov 19, 2013
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
Dream on. You'll be waiting a long time.
You wish.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#316 Nov 19, 2013
pipedream wrote:
LOL. you disprove it MF'r.
You made the claim. Your refusal to back it up proves that you can't back it up. No real surprise there. Polly wanna cracker? All you seem capable of is parroting douchebag talking points which further proves that you are not capable of original independent thought and/or research.
Oh..and those 'junk' policies you like to squawk about...Obamacare sells them, too....they're called catastrophic and bronze plans. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/obamaca...
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#317 Nov 19, 2013
Go for it Mouth. That Catastrophic or Bronze plan will be right up your ally. Remember those 5 choices I said you had. Choose one, then STFU. Bitching complaining and whining isn't going to make ACA go away. Besides, you do realize ACAs origins are with the Conservative-hate mongering Heritage Foundation. Its practically word for word right out of their asses. Your blaming the wrong things Mouth because you're too stupid to get past Politico or Townhall.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#318 Nov 19, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Go for it Mouth. That Catastrophic or Bronze plan will be right up your ally.
But...but...your hero is selling junk plans? I bet that's making your head spin around on its axis, isn't it? LOL
Better be careful, I don't think disability or Medicaid cover that.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#319 Nov 19, 2013
If you like the junk plan on the individual market v the exchange go for it a@@hole. The insurer will like you because the cost of it is going to be higher than it is on the exchange. But go for it anyway. Like I posted before, but will post again for YOU because you have a problem with the written language, You have 5 choices. Pick one, crawl back in your hole, find your broom and STFU.
James

Grand Rapids, MI

#320 Nov 19, 2013
pipedream wrote:
If you like the junk plan on the individual market v the exchange go for it a@@hole. The insurer will like you because the cost of it is going to be higher than it is on the exchange. But go for it anyway. Like I posted before, but will post again for YOU because you have a problem with the written language, You have 5 choices. Pick one, crawl back in your hole, find your broom and STFU.
My "junk" plan is far better than your gold or platinum plan. So I think you are just full of sh_t! Why don't you STFU!!!
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#321 Nov 19, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
But...but...your hero is selling junk plans? I bet that's making your head spin around on its axis, isn't it? LOL
Better be careful, I don't think disability or Medicaid cover that.
Nope my hero isn't selling junk plans, but you will undoubtedly buy one. The Junk Plan was designed just for you. At least the ones on Exchanges actually do cover something. Go for it Mouth.
Really

Wyoming, MI

#322 Nov 19, 2013
James wrote:
<quoted text>
I can't hardly wait.
Oh, it will happen because he's that stupid to believe whatever Obama says. I love the new Poll numbers that are out. The poll by ABCNews/Washington Post. The Obama man is going down the toilet of life rather quickly these days.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#323 Nov 19, 2013
James wrote:
<quoted text>
My "junk" plan is far better than your gold or platinum plan. So I think you are just full of sh_t! Why don't you STFU!!!


LOL Your Junk plan is far better than my gold or platinum? Either you're smoking crack, you're a liar or both Jim bob.
James

Grand Rapids, MI

#324 Nov 19, 2013
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL Your Junk plan is far better than my gold or platinum? Either you're smoking crack, you're a liar or both Jim bob.
Hahaha Good one
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#325 Nov 19, 2013
Just for grins I used the the Kaiser Subsidy Calculator to determine premium amount based on following inputs.

Silver Plan
Annual Income: 40,000
Number of Adults/Children: 2
Michigan
Non-smokers

Results

The information below is about subsidized exchange coverage. Note that subsidies are only available for people purchasing coverage on their own in the exchange (not through an employer). Depending on your state's eligibility criteria, you or some members of your family may qualify for Medicaid.

Household income in 2014:
348% of poverty level
Maximum % of income you have to pay for the premium, if eligible for a subsidy:
9.5%
Health Insurance premium in 2014 (for a silver plan, before tax credit):
$8,270 per year
You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to:
$4,470 per year
(which covers 54% of the overall premium)
Amount you pay for the premium:
$3,800 per year
(which equals 9.5% of your household income and covers 46% of the overall premium)

Other Levels of Coverage

The premium and subsidy amounts above are based on a Silver plan. You have the option to apply the subsidy toward the purchase of other levels of coverage, such as a Gold plan (which would be more comprehensive) or a Bronze plan (which would be less comprehensive).

For example, you could enroll in a Bronze plan for about $1,912 per year (which is 4.78% of your household income, after taking into account $4,470 in subsidies). For most people, the Bronze plan represents the minimum level of coverage required under health reform. Although you would pay less in premiums by enrolling in a Bronze plan, you will face higher out-of-pocket costs than if you enrolled in a Silver plan.

Out of Pocket Costs

Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $12,700. Whether you reach this maximum level will depend on the amount of health care services you use. Currently, about one in four people use no health care services in any given year.

You are guaranteed access to a Silver plan with an actuarial value of 70%. This means that for all enrollees in a typical population, the plan will pay for 70% of expenses in total for covered benefits, with enrollees responsible for the rest. If you choose to enroll in a Bronze plan, the actuarial value will be 60%, meaning your out-of-pocket costs when you use services will likely be higher. Regardless of which level of coverage you choose, deductibles and copayments will vary from plan to plan, and out-of-pocket costs will depend on your health care expenses. Preventive services will be covered with no cost sharing required.

Other Coverage Options

Children and young adults under age 30 are eligible to purchase catastrophic coverage. With a catastrophic plan, you would pay out-of-pocket for most health services until you reach the annual limit on cost sharing ($12,700 in 2014). However, preventive services are covered with no cost sharing required.
James

Grand Rapids, MI

#326 Nov 19, 2013
Great paste job pipester. Hope you didn't get any on your fingers.

What you are using are generic numbers to fit your case. When I entered my income just from last year and used the same Kaiser Subsidy Calculator to factor my cost, I would end up paying over $5,000 per year for health insurance. Right now I pay $ 2300 per year. Do you see why I'm opposed to it? Am I making sense to you?
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#327 Nov 19, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Just for grins I used the the Kaiser Subsidy Calculator to determine premium amount based on following
Funny how real life reports from actual people trying to buy actual policies don't jibe with those fictional numbers. Of course fictional numbers are just fine for someone like you who lives in fantasy land.
You are too clueless for words, pippybob doucheboi.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#328 Nov 19, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Silver Plan
Annual Income: 40,000
Number of Adults/Children: 2
LOL...40K annual income. I always knew you lived a trailer park.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#329 Nov 19, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Nope my hero isn't selling junk plans, but you will undoubtedly buy one.
You have a short memory. Stop smoking crack and cooking meth...it's dissolving your brain tissue.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#330 Nov 19, 2013
ya its copied and pasted. So what? No you're not making sense to me.

You don't have to buy on the exchange stupid if your plan was in place before Obamacare became law. Apparently yours came after ACA or can't be grandfathered because, as you said was Junk --meaning subpar. Yes you said it was junk! Your bitch is with your insurer, not ACA, if it was cancelled. What part of that don't you understand?

you have 5 choices now. Choose one. If you don't like contact the Heritage Foundation and bitch to them.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#331 Nov 19, 2013
pipedream wrote:
ya its copied and pasted.
You claimed it as your own work, you toad-faced little plagiarist. Then again, the dbag party of degenerates doesn't place a high value on little things like honesty, morality and ethics.
James

Grand Rapids, MI

#332 Nov 19, 2013
pipedream wrote:
ya its copied and pasted. So what? No you're not making sense to me.
You don't have to buy on the exchange stupid if your plan was in place before Obamacare became law. Apparently yours came after ACA or can't be grandfathered because, as you said was Junk --meaning subpar. Yes you said it was junk! Your bitch is with your insurer, not ACA, if it was cancelled. What part of that don't you understand?
you have 5 choices now. Choose one. If you don't like contact the Heritage Foundation and bitch to them.
Well based on this responds, you have successfully changed my mind. As I now see, you are ever wise beyond all comprehension. Yes as you so clearly laid out and carefully looked over my insurance plan, you found it was pure junk. Next time I will just listen to you without even showing you the details of my plan. You are correct. I don't and won't sign up for Obamacare. I will never come to myself to say ACA as it is by all means the proper way to say it. And finally I can not help it and nobody will ever get through to you that It will actually cost more money for the same coverage that I currently have based on your own calculations. I am terribly sorry if you are so stupid that you can not come to grips with that. Thanks again for showing all of us just how intelligent you really are pipester. May God bless you and your family. Just so you may know, I'll be praying for you.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#333 Nov 19, 2013
Whatever James. Bottom line I think you're either Lying or not comparing apples to apples or both. A while back you posted something about being an employer with less than 50 employees. Today you're saying something different. Typical of the bull Schit artists on discussion boards like this one. You and mouth make a good pair. Good luck deciding what to do.

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