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Oneal

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Feb 16, 2013
 
pipedream wrote:
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You wouldn't consider anything anyway. You're already convinced anything Obama does is bad and that you apparently know his plan will fail. And that's precisely why I asked you if you realized 40 years ago total federal spending for health care was 7-9% of the budget, today its approaching 30% and if status quo continues that number is going to get bigger, some estimate a lot bigger. And of course that adds to the deficit which I'm sure you blame that all on Obama too. But you already know Obama's plan will fail or that its no better than what we have today? You said it. So lets hear why? Don't just spout off your b.s. here, add your spin and faux conspiracy theories and expect me to give you a pass. I'll bet you stand in line whenever you think the govt owes you a handout. And you'll be there if you ever need something from obama's health care.
I don't fault Obama for trying to make change happen in our health care system, and had you actually read my earlier posts you would have recognized that. So most of what you just wrote is based on wrong assumptions. That's your problem, not mine.

I do however find fault in his passing a law that very few people if any actually read before voting on, and risking the very thing we are now discovering - that this law was pushed through so quickly and lacked proper checks and balances, that it too is flawed and in some cases not at all what it was promised to be. Whether you choose to believe it or not, I'd feel the same regardless of what party was in power or responsible for it.
Oneal

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Feb 16, 2013
 
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Face it. You are incredibly stupid or an incredibly deceitful liar.
In your book 2+2=18 the way you inflate.
"...I won't get into any further details on my beliefs on this forum. I have done so far too many times in the past. Too many antagonistic for the sake of antagonism to build their own egos juvenile trolls..."
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Oneal wrote:
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I don't fault Obama for trying to make change happen in our health care system, and had you actually read my earlier posts you would have recognized that. So most of what you just wrote is based on wrong assumptions. That's your problem, not mine.
I do however find fault in his passing a law that very few people if any actually read before voting on, and risking the very thing we are now discovering - that this law was pushed through so quickly and lacked proper checks and balances, that it too is flawed and in some cases not at all what it was promised to be. Whether you choose to believe it or not, I'd feel the same regardless of what party was in power or responsible for it.
Be it the Affordable Health Care Act is a good thing or not is not the major issue. What is is that it's the exact same national health care proposal Richard Nixon presented to Teddy Kennedy. The exact same Romney put in place in MA. The exact same as the Republicans had planned presenting as theirs. But as Obama presented it and and got it passed it's a job killer, a economy buster, every thing bad and the right-wing has pledged to repeal it in total.

A national health care proposal has been in play since the 1800s.
http://www.pnhp.org/facts/a-brief-history-uni...

I am in agreement that the Founding Fathers would be in favor of a national health care policy.
http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/should-the-...

And lets take a little side trip here. I am sick to death of the conservative side of the aisle whining about left-wing "socialism" and welfare and government spending, and on and on and on. When their choice for president, Romney, believed heavily in using tax payer money for his and other right-wing profit making. Even to the point he claimed as part of his qualifications as a business leader and saving the Olympics. What he didn't say is he did it on the backs of the American tax payers. Campaigning on how the government spends too much. How the government taxes too much.
&li st=PLzeVkKDVqIT9mSwxLOpgJmRe_s 3s4JiO_

So apparently the government spends too much and taxes too much and has too many "entitlements", EXCEPT where it benefits their ambitions. THEN it's okay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Feb 16, 2013
 
Sorry about the double youtube linking. Must be I'm incensed about it more than I thought I am.
Chip

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You're the one that didn't read the article. It clearly said the 2.3% tax on medical devices was a job killer. And yes "IN THE MEDICAL DEVICE FIELD". Because you are so stupid you don't realize that isn't saying taxes kill jobs...like you have been trying to get everyone to think it said.
Face it. You are incredibly stupid or an incredibly deceitful liar.
In your book 2+2=18 the way you inflate.
Do you even read what you write?

"It clearly said the 2.3% tax on medical devices was a job killer."

"that isn't saying taxes kill jobs"

Well what is it saying then, because it seems to me that they are saying 2.3% tax is killing jobs, mainly because that is exactly what it says. I guess I'm just reading exactly what it says and I need to insert my head in my a$$ to understand it the way that you do.
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Chip wrote:
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Do you even read what you write?
"It clearly said the 2.3% tax on medical devices was a job killer."
"that isn't saying taxes kill jobs"
Well what is it saying then, because it seems to me that they are saying 2.3% tax is killing jobs, mainly because that is exactly what it says. I guess I'm just reading exactly what it says and I need to insert my head in my a$$ to understand it the way that you do.
Then add to that in over your head in the river denial.
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Feb 16, 2013
 
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Be it the Affordable Health Care Act is a good thing or not is not the major issue. What is is that it's the exact same national health care proposal Richard Nixon presented to Teddy Kennedy. The exact same Romney put in place in MA. The exact same as the Republicans had planned presenting as theirs. But as Obama presented it and and got it passed it's a job killer, a economy buster, every thing bad and the right-wing has pledged to repeal it in total.
A national health care proposal has been in play since the 1800s.
http://www.pnhp.org/facts/a-brief-history-uni...
I am in agreement that the Founding Fathers would be in favor of a national health care policy.
http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/should-the-...
And lets take a little side trip here. I am sick to death of the conservative side of the aisle whining about left-wing "socialism" and welfare and government spending, and on and on and on. When their choice for president, Romney, believed heavily in using tax payer money for his and other right-wing profit making. Even to the point he claimed as part of his qualifications as a business leader and saving the Olympics. What he didn't say is he did it on the backs of the American tax payers. Campaigning on how the government spends too much. How the government taxes too much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =GMnf-Kt7kh0XX&list=PLzeVk KDVqIT9mSwxLOpgJmRe_s3s4JiO_
So apparently the government spends too much and taxes too much and has too many "entitlements", EXCEPT where it benefits their ambitions. THEN it's okay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
I'm of the opinion that the GOP has splintered from representing true conservatives like myself, so say what you will about the current pack of politicians currently pretending to be conservative. I'll not defend them.
Chip

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Feb 16, 2013
 
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Then add to that in over your head in the river denial.
I take it you realized you are in fact a moron and that is the best you could come up with.

"It clearly said the 2.3% tax on medical devices was a job killer."

If it doesn't mean that the 2.3% tax is killing jobs then please share with all of us what it does mean?
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Feb 16, 2013
 
Chip wrote:
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I take it you realized you are in fact a moron and that is the best you could come up with.
"It clearly said the 2.3% tax on medical devices was a job killer."
If it doesn't mean that the 2.3% tax is killing jobs then please share with all of us what it does mean?
And yet in another post on a different topic, 5 minutes before you posted this:

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Really? Show me where the democrats admit lower taxes create jobs.

Well, link in post #1 is your answer.

From http://washingtonexaminer.com/democrats-urge-...
show me where it says Democrats admit lower taxes create jobs.

Or is it that you just extrapolated it from the headline because that's all the farther you got when you posted your nonsense?

You can't even keep track of your own deceptions and lies to remember which one to defend.
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SeenItBefore wrote:
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And yet in another post on a different topic, 5 minutes before you posted this:
SeenItBefore wrote:
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Really? Show me where the democrats admit lower taxes create jobs.
Well, link in post #1 is your answer.
From http://washingtonexaminer.com/democrats-urge-...
show me where it says Democrats admit lower taxes create jobs.
Or is it that you just extrapolated it from the headline because that's all the farther you got when you posted your nonsense?
You can't even keep track of your own deceptions and lies to remember which one to defend.
You are quite the piece of work.

"It clearly said the 2.3% tax on medical devices was a job killer."

How about you just tell us all what this means if you think it doesn't mean exactly what it says?
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Feb 17, 2013
 
Chip wrote:
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You are quite the piece of work.
"It clearly said the 2.3% tax on medical devices was a job killer."
How about you just tell us all what this means if you think it doesn't mean exactly what it says?
One last time and I'm done playing this little game of yours.
It said the democrats wanted to POSTPONE, not eliminate, not repeal, POSTPONE "the 2.3% tax on MEDICAL DEVICES because it was a job killer."

You are so confuse you can't even get the quotation right. Nowhere is the article did it say "It clearly said......."

In minds like yours alone does that say the Democrats are saying lower taxes create jobs.
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SeenItBefore wrote:
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One last time and I'm done playing this little game of yours.
It said the democrats wanted to POSTPONE, not eliminate, not repeal, POSTPONE "the 2.3% tax on MEDICAL DEVICES because it was a job killer."
You are so confuse you can't even get the quotation right. Nowhere is the article did it say "It clearly said......."
In minds like yours alone does that say the Democrats are saying lower taxes create jobs.
Just wanted to be sure that you are well aware that increased taxes kill jobs.

Your position is that increased taxes kill jobs but lower taxes have no affect on jobs. Just want it to be clear that we understand how stupid you are.

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