Want a beer? Vote 'no' to say yes

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David Johnson remembers how it used to be in Ottawa County. "They would buy their beer during the week and drink it, if they want to drink it on the weekend in the garage or in the basement." Johnson, who lives ...

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“The state with the other UofM.”

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"Shall the sale of beer and wine within Ottawa County between the hours of 2 a.m. and 12 midnight on Sunday be prohibited?"

It's worded by someone who doesn't want to see this pass.

Is this not what you expect from someone who can't word things in a way that is easy to interpret?
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That's just stupid that this is even being voted on, they were asking kids, KIDS to sign the petition to get it in the vote in front of the library. It's amazing how people can be motivated for their alcohol, when they can't be motivated for more important things. If people like that weren't wasting their time on things like this, and instead were say, volunteering for important things, the world would be a better place. If they want their alcohol so bad they can get off their butts and buy it the day before. If not, it's one less drunk to deal with on Sunday.

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Funny how the only two comments come from out of state.
I say yes to Sunday sales of alcohol AFTER 12:00 Noon. I feel a few hours of sacrifice on Sunday is justified.
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Its funny how they ban smokers from smoking everywhere anymore cus the smoke causes cancer and kills people over years but we continue to contribute to drunks who get behind the wheel and can kill in one night i cant ever understand the rules that are made.
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Tricky wording....almost as if someone behind the scenes is stacking the deck for it to fail.
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Jessica wrote:
That's just stupid that this is even being voted on, they were asking kids, KIDS to sign the petition to get it in the vote in front of the library. It's amazing how people can be motivated for their alcohol, when they can't be motivated for more important things. If people like that weren't wasting their time on things like this, and instead were say, volunteering for important things, the world would be a better place. If they want their alcohol so bad they can get off their butts and buy it the day before. If not, it's one less drunk to deal with on Sunday.
I am motivated -- I am a mother of four, volunteer at school and elsewhere in my community and I think Sunday alcohol sales are important. Think of what it would do for Holland's downtown on Sunday - a place I love to go and eat. A beer (or wine) or two with dinner does not a drunk make.
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C'mon. Being a transplant here from out of the county, for the love of Pete, I'd like a beer or two on Sunday. It is an antiquated law that 99% of the country already allows. Do it already.

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Some laws are residual laws, leftovers of the past – the “Blue Laws,” for instance. Contrary to popularized belief that these laws were printed on blue paper in pre-Revolutionary colonies of the New World, no evidence has been found to support this theory. The first reference to “Blue Laws” points to a book written in 1781 by Reverend Samuel Peters called General History of Connecticut. Peters describes “blue laws, i.e. bloody laws” that sanctioned harsh punishments in order to impose control and regulate moral behavior in Puritan New England. It is theorized that Reverend Peters invented the phrase “blue laws,” and that it originated from a deprecatory reference to a “bluenose,” or one who upheld a rigid code of moral conduct and supported oppressive and brutal punishments for opposing this moral code.

The “Blue Laws” included rules about attendance at church services, the sale and consumption of alcohol, the playing of games, lying, drunkenness, and crimes committed on the Sabbath. These laws eventually lost their steam, but reignited during the temperance movement of the late 19th century, when new reforms were legislated to regulate Sunday merchandising, cigarettes, alcohol, unnecessary labor on Sundays, and the censorship of books, music, and art.

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Prohibited to serve alcohol on Christmas Day, including at restaurants serving holiday buffets...Local laws exist too - one town prohibits brewpubs from selling beer-to-go.

It is illegal to allow restaurant diners to take an unfinished bottle of any alcoholic beverage home with them.

silly beer laws
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art52640....
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Jeta1 wrote:
Funny how the only two comments come from out of state.
I say yes to Sunday sales of alcohol AFTER 12:00 Noon. I feel a few hours of sacrifice on Sunday is justified.
What is the point of prohibiting it until 1200? And why should anyone be able to tell me and my wife if we should sacrifice at any time for any reason? The values that started this ban do not belong to my family, and the law is simply an inconvenience that forces local residents to go elsewhere, and outsiders to choose somewhere else to patronize....nothing more.
Ottawa County is not a religious commune. It's a public community.
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How is that a difficult question? Honestly, people, shall sales be prohibited? Yes or no. Do people really not understand what the word prohibited means? Ever heard of prohibition? Ever read a dictionary?

“So what!!”

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Beer and liquor should be sold any day any time...
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Doc Boston wrote:
"Shall the sale of beer and wine within Ottawa County between the hours of 2 a.m. and 12 midnight on Sunday be prohibited?"
It's worded by someone who doesn't want to see this pass.
Is this not what you expect from someone who can't word things in a way that is easy to interpret?
I actually thought the proposition is phrased the way it is to confuse the voters who don't want alcohol sales on Sunday. They will get to the voting booth and see a prop for Alcohol on Sundays and think, "I don't want that! I am voting no!" Especially after they all just voted "No" on medical marijuana on one of the prior ballot props.

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Its funny how they ban smokers from smoking everywhere anymore cus the smoke causes cancer and kills people over years but we continue to contribute to drunks who get behind the wheel and can kill in one night i cant ever understand the rules that are made.
Actually, smoking is banned in different places to save OTHER people from the smoke and smell. If somebody has a beer next to me, it affects me in no way. If somebody smokes next to me, I can't avoid the smoke. If somebody could develop a cigarette that doesn't have exhaust, I think most people would say light up wherever you want!
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What is up with this ballot language? Why can't they word these to be clear and concise??? I can see both sides of the of the store. I do feel such a low is out of date with the times. On the other hand, it is nice to keep good hometown values.
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the next thing they will want is to sell it around the clock. thats all we need is more drunks on the roads. what good are the drunk driving laws in this state? they are a joke! if they want to sell loike this. then make them resposibie for the lives they destroy. we the tax payers have had enough. put on the idiots that make this junk. and want to sell it. they want it make them pay!!!!! not us
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Uh, I want a beer.

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Jessica wrote:
That's just stupid that this is even being voted on, they were asking kids, KIDS to sign the petition to get it in the vote in front of the library. It's amazing how people can be motivated for their alcohol, when they can't be motivated for more important things. If people like that weren't wasting their time on things like this, and instead were say, volunteering for important things, the world would be a better place. If they want their alcohol so bad they can get off their butts and buy it the day before. If not, it's one less drunk to deal with on Sunday.
Jessica, If you would have read the article you would understand that the basis for this proposal is economic. So I wouldn't exactly call it a waste of time to put forth effort toward improving the economy...

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CHAD wrote:
Uh, I want a beer.
A? Never had A beer in my life.
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the next thing they will want is to sell it around the clock. thats all we need is more drunks on the roads. what good are the drunk driving laws in this state? they are a joke! if they want to sell loike this. then make them resposibie for the lives they destroy. we the tax payers have had enough. put on the idiots that make this junk. and want to sell it. they want it make them pay!!!!! not us
It wouldn't matter if they sold alcohol 24/7.
X-amount of people will still drink and drive, no matter what laws there are or what hours the alcohol is being sold.
Thankfully, some people have been deterred by the laws.
You could mandate selling alcohol for only 1 hour per week, and those people would stock up a weeks worth of alcohol to "get them through" until they could buy again.
Legislature has never negated "stupidity".
Unfortunately, when a community prohibits the sale of alcohol, lets say on Sunday, the drinkers have further to travel (possibly drunk) to get home.
So it seems logical to have no bans on alcohol sales - period.
BTW, I don't drink alcohol, so don't think I'm biased for that reason.

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