Some West Michigan communities may keep ban on Sunday morning liquor sales

Dec 4, 2010 Full story: MLive.com 29

When state legislators eliminated a ban on Sunday morning alcohol sales last month, they gave local communities the option of continuing the prohibition within their borders.

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Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#1 Dec 6, 2010
So much for the seperation of church and state, then. Much as i hate the ACLU, would'nt they have a fielday with this topic? Perhaps, it should simply be, majority rules....
Old Rocker

Hudsonville, MI

#2 Dec 6, 2010
I'm not surprised that these conservative communities will opt out. Is it that important, really? All this law was passed for was to make money for the state at $160 a pop to sell on Sunday morning.

In November, liquor by the glass was passed in Georgetown Township. I'm curious as to how long it will take to issue liquor licenses. Board members are opposed to liquor by the glass, and will probably drag their feet and make anyone applying for a license jump through all kinds of hoops to get it. I say it will be over a year before we see a liquor license issued in Georgetown.
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#3 Dec 6, 2010
Old Rocker, it seems it is effecting mostly the small business's, as i now do most all my drinking at home, and would always simply, buy ahead. Maybe one day, whereby packaged liquor is prohibited, but availibility through bars and restaurants is allowed, would be a workable alternative?
Old Rocker

Hudsonville, MI

#4 Dec 6, 2010
That's right Blue. If we plan ahead, it really doesn't matter one way or another to me. The small businesses could choose not to purchase a license anyway.
On the other hand, Just because people will be able to buy before noon, doesn't mean that they will drink it right away. It's a matter of convenience. Save a trip. Buy a 12 pack for the game Sunday when you go out for your morning paper.
Like I said, it's all about collecting the $160 permit fee from the stores.

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#5 Dec 6, 2010
Off topic sorry. I would love to go back to the days where for the most part nothing was open on Sunday. The mornings were quiet the afternoons and the evenings. Kind of sick of the 24/7 life we have developed. Not that I live that way, I tried it once all I did was get sleepy. If I need a fifth I can by it any time I want no AM Sunday sales.
Ex West Michigander

United States

#6 Dec 6, 2010
I see the religious right is still deciding what's best for everyone else in W Michigan. Talk about big government! I am so glad I moved from that wasteland. It's been 7 years since I entered the Real World and left all that behind. It fun to check into Grand Rapids Topix once in a while and see how things haven't changed.
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#7 Dec 6, 2010
Yeah, before greed set in, but with this economy, i don't see any of them going back.....plus, there are some people that are only off on sunday too....

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#8 Dec 6, 2010
Ex West Michigander wrote:
I see the religious right is still deciding what's best for everyone else in W Michigan. Talk about big government! I am so glad I moved from that wasteland. It's been 7 years since I entered the Real World and left all that behind. It fun to check into Grand Rapids Topix once in a while and see how things haven't changed.
Not that I am religious but we are getting along just fine thanks. The thing is its real easy to buy booze anytime any day, This lift on the ban on Sunday sales is really nothing to get all worked up about no matter what side you are on.
Ex West Michigander

United States

#9 Dec 6, 2010
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
<quoted text>Not that I am religious but we are getting along just fine thanks. The thing is its real easy to buy booze anytime any day, This lift on the ban on Sunday sales is really nothing to get all worked up about no matter what side you are on.
I'm not worked up at all since I live in the 21st century. It's just funny that a few religious fanatics can force their beliefs on the rest of the local population. Funny but not in a haha way.

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#10 Dec 6, 2010
Ex West Michigander wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not worked up at all since I live in the 21st century. It's just funny that a few religious fanatics can force their beliefs on the rest of the local population. Funny but not in a haha way.
I have lived here my whole life an have never felt oppressed by the religious culture, its actually a great place to live. Yeah I live in 21st century too of course its only ten years old, to bad though some get stuck in certain time periods of history. Yeah I long for a more quieter time, I though not being locked into any particular period of history can still find it. Its pretty easy to go out around this area and find the fast lane, the back alleys, and the country side. I guess it all depends on your perspective.
Sandy

United States

#11 Dec 6, 2010
Ex West Michigander wrote:
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I'm not worked up at all since I live in the 21st century. It's just funny that a few religious fanatics can force their beliefs on the rest of the local population. Funny but not in a haha way.
Actually, it is not a "few", but the votes have not been there. Alcohol can be bought in most communities on Sunday in the restaurants, at Noon.
Sassy

Jackson, MI

#12 Dec 6, 2010
Common Shoeless not opressed by the religious culture? You obviously do not live in the buisness world around WM. It is extremely opressed, there have been inroads but not enough. Do you even realize that there are business' in this area that only hire on the religion of some people. While they do not come right out and say it they infer during an interview that they have prayer sometime during the day and while they don't require it, they do have it.
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
<quoted text>I have lived here my whole life an have never felt oppressed by the religious culture, its actually a great place to live. Yeah I live in 21st century too of course its only ten years old, to bad though some get stuck in certain time periods of history. Yeah I long for a more quieter time, I though not being locked into any particular period of history can still find it. Its pretty easy to go out around this area and find the fast lane, the back alleys, and the country side. I guess it all depends on your perspective.
Sassy

Jackson, MI

#13 Dec 6, 2010
Liquor, not beer and wine, though it is in the process of changing. Ottawa County is a perfect example. Even Tenessee got rid of that years ago.
Sandy wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, it is not a "few", but the votes have not been there. Alcohol can be bought in most communities on Sunday in the restaurants, at Noon.
Sassy

Jackson, MI

#14 Dec 6, 2010
They have yet to open their eyes. Stuck in old school, and religous right in this area are doing everything they can to hold onto their monopoly. The only proble with that in GR is that they have the Medical Mile going on. Lots of newcomers with open minds, not all religious individuals that think the sun rises and shines on the Dutch and CR.
Ex West Michigander wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not worked up at all since I live in the 21st century. It's just funny that a few religious fanatics can force their beliefs on the rest of the local population. Funny but not in a haha way.

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#15 Dec 7, 2010
Sassy wrote:
Common Shoeless not opressed by the religious culture? You obviously do not live in the buisness world around WM. It is extremely opressed, there have been inroads but not enough. Do you even realize that there are business' in this area that only hire on the religion of some people. While they do not come right out and say it they infer during an interview that they have prayer sometime during the day and while they don't require it, they do have it.
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There is a business world eh. Lets see I have lived here all my life I am 55 years old have had four jobs and can only say I have never seen it. If this is oppression then its okay with me cause I can do anything I want around here except poor me cant buy a fifth of Jim Beam on Sunday morning . I see nothing wrong with a business that has prayer as long as they don't force it or and as long as no one proselytizes and believe me I find that distasteful.. There is no separation of church and business in the Constitution. The last job I had I worked there 28 years so I will admit I don't have a lot of experience at going to job interviews, the job I have now I have been at for four years and during the interview the subject of my faith never came up.
Sassy

Jackson, MI

#16 Dec 7, 2010
By even inferring that they have prayer, they are requiring you to be there. Trust me I know business' that have done this. Now the guestion goes to you. What kind of jobs have you worked? I am talking offices, not a large national company. A large national company has more hr experience in labor laws.
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
<quoted text>There is a business world eh. Lets see I have lived here all my life I am 55 years old have had four jobs and can only say I have never seen it. If this is oppression then its okay with me cause I can do anything I want around here except poor me cant buy a fifth of Jim Beam on Sunday morning . I see nothing wrong with a business that has prayer as long as they don't force it or and as long as no one proselytizes and believe me I find that distasteful.. There is no separation of church and business in the Constitution. The last job I had I worked there 28 years so I will admit I don't have a lot of experience at going to job interviews, the job I have now I have been at for four years and during the interview the subject of my faith never came up.

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#17 Dec 7, 2010
Sassy wrote:
By even inferring that they have prayer, they are requiring you to be there. Trust me I know business' that have done this. Now the guestion goes to you. What kind of jobs have you worked? I am talking offices, not a large national company. A large national company has more hr experience in labor laws.
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Well I have never worked in an office environment, the closest I came was a dispatcher for a trucking dept. The job I had for twenty eight years I had various jobs it was Steelcase mostly factory, drove semi for ten years, and then a dispatcher. Now I work for a smaller company but am basically isolated from the office people, went out a few times with some of the gals in the office for drinks and did here them kind of complaining about there boss and his meddling, basically what you are talking about. I wont say it doesn't happen I just have never experienced it. They kind of leave me alone cause I am kind of a heathen, look it up that's me. I like to keep em guessing. Oh sure I have had people I work with proselytize to me and basically have ignored them. I still though don't feel oppressed living in west Michigan its a great place to live and this thing about Sunday liquor sales is no big deal to me.

“DRILL FOR OIL?, "YES WE CAN"”

Since: Jul 08

United States

#18 Dec 7, 2010
Drinking on a sunday morning don't need a ban, YUCK !!!

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#19 Dec 7, 2010
Red_Fist wrote:
Drinking on a sunday morning don't need a ban, YUCK !!!
You got that right.
Old Rocker

Hudsonville, MI

#20 Dec 8, 2010
Sometimes my first drink of the day is on Sunday morning...right after midnight Saturday. LOL

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