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“lover”

Since: Feb 09

Dorr MI

#1 Feb 15, 2012
It's all Bush's fault! Drill baby drill!
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#2 Feb 15, 2012
Living Large2 wrote:
It's all Bush's fault! Drill baby drill!
Ya, drill baby drill. You're gasoline prices are rising because there's money in exporting it than selling it here.
"The United States began exporting gas in late 2008. For decades prior, starting in 1960, the country used all the gas it produced here plus had to import gas from places in Europe.

But demand for gas has dropped nearly 10% in recent years. It went from a peak of 9.6 million barrels a day in 2007 to 8.8 million barrels today, according to the EIA."
http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/05/news/economy/...
What a bunch of flippen idiots these drill baby drillers have been. Take a step into the real world of knowledge.
Dead By Dawn

Byron Center, MI

#3 Feb 15, 2012
SeenItBefore wrote:
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Ya, drill baby drill. You're gasoline prices are rising because there's money in exporting it than selling it here.
"The United States began exporting gas in late 2008. For decades prior, starting in 1960, the country used all the gas it produced here plus had to import gas from places in Europe.
But demand for gas has dropped nearly 10% in recent years. It went from a peak of 9.6 million barrels a day in 2007 to 8.8 million barrels today, according to the EIA."
http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/05/news/economy/...
What a bunch of flippen idiots these drill baby drillers have been. Take a step into the real world of knowledge.
And I'm sure ObaMao will step up to the plate and fix this problem right?
Forrest Gump

Grand Rapids, MI

#4 Feb 16, 2012
Thank god for my chevy volt that goes 30 miles a all night charge. I'll be happy for that when it finally comes back from the dealership to fix all the recall problems.

“lover”

Since: Feb 09

Dorr MI

#5 Feb 16, 2012
SeenItBefore wrote:
<quoted text>
Ya, drill baby drill. You're gasoline prices are rising because there's money in exporting it than selling it here.
"The United States began exporting gas in late 2008. For decades prior, starting in 1960, the country used all the gas it produced here plus had to import gas from places in Europe.
But demand for gas has dropped nearly 10% in recent years. It went from a peak of 9.6 million barrels a day in 2007 to 8.8 million barrels today, according to the EIA."
http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/05/news/economy/...
What a bunch of flippen idiots these drill baby drillers have been. Take a step into the real world of knowledge.
Absolutely right, where has our leadership been in the last 3 years?
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#6 Feb 16, 2012
Romney will lower gas prices, plus jobs for all....

“Taz say Hi”

Since: Jan 08

Holland,MI

#7 Feb 16, 2012
The price of gasoline has been a moving target for quite a few years now with the excuses resembling a fiction novel. In the meantime, the sales figures of vehicles continue to show that many people really don't care. The most recent figures I have seen have been Ford F-150 number one and Chevrolet Silverado number two.
St Stephen

Milwaukee, WI

#8 Feb 16, 2012
Gentle Taz wrote:
The most recent figures I have seen have been Ford F-150 number one and Chevrolet Silverado number two.
It's because of fleet sales, construction companies, utility companies, ect... The large volume of truck sales has nothing to do with the average consumer.

As far as people who don't care and buy full size trucks? If gas does go that high they will care. The last time gas hit $4.00 a gallon full size SUV's and pick-ups lost about 30% of their value overnight.
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#9 Feb 16, 2012
Yeah, i remember large SUV prices falling so much.....Down here, i am always aggrevated, when i see a Escalade or big Hummer with just a driver inside.........don't know what you guys are paying, but i paid $3.69 for Chevron regular, yesterday....
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#10 Feb 16, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
Yeah, i remember large SUV prices falling so much.....Down here, i am always aggrevated, when i see a Escalade or big Hummer with just a driver inside.........don't know what you guys are paying, but i paid $3.69 for Chevron regular, yesterday....
Well you're higher down there than we are here,$3.41 I think it was yesterday or the day before.
Old Rocker

Hudsonville, MI

#11 Feb 16, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
Yeah, i remember large SUV prices falling so much.....Down here, i am always aggrevated, when i see a Escalade or big Hummer with just a driver inside.........don't know what you guys are paying, but i paid $3.69 for Chevron regular, yesterday....
I paid $3.21 yesterday. it's been that price for several days now so I expect it to jump to $3.49 very soon. Gas is always cheaper here in the winter. You are in peak tourist season down there this time of year. That's why gas costs more in Fla now. I'm sure gas will top $4 a gallon here in Michigan this summer when everyone starts traveling more. You get raped in the winter, we get raped in the summer.
$4 a gallon seems to be the threshold that gets everyone's attention.

To you Drill Baby Drill people, that will not reduce gas prices. Gas will be sold to whoever will generate the most profit. That's why so much of it is being exported. Drilling will have little impact on our gas prices.
St Stephen

Milwaukee, WI

#12 Feb 16, 2012
Old Rocker wrote:
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To you Drill Baby Drill people, that will not reduce gas prices. Gas will be sold to whoever will generate the most profit. That's why so much of it is being exported. Drilling will have little impact on our gas prices.
Bingo!
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#13 Feb 16, 2012
What would make anyone think a company would lower the price when they have a surplus of production when they can export that surplus and make more money at both ends. Business has no individual national interest in mind. Never has.
"The selfish spirit of commerce knows no country, and feels no passion or principle but that of gain." - Thomas Jefferson

Try this on for size:
"The downside falls to refineries. As it happens, while demand was declining, refineries were becoming more efficient, actually boosting their production. It's basic economics: Declining demand plus increasing production is not a winning formula.
Now the country stands to lose some refineries. Sunoco and ConocoPhillips have announced that three refineries on the outskirts of Philadelphia will shut down if the companies can't find buyers. That could put an estimated 2,600 people out of work.

Now the country stands to lose some refineries. Sunoco and ConocoPhillips have announced that three refineries on the outskirts of Philadelphia will shut down if the companies can't find buyers. That could put an estimated 2,600 people out of work.

Members of Congress recently met with the companies. Rep. Allyson Schwartz a Democrat from the Philadelphia suburbs told executives, "We want you to sell to someone who can actually keep these refineries alive, keep these jobs here."

So far, no buyers. The refineries are preparing to shut down so the companies can stem the tens of millions of dollars of red ink flowing from them. Exporting gasoline and diesel has become less a luxury for refiners and more of a survival strategy."
http://www.npr.org/2011/12/29/144155269/gas-p...

So all the drill baby drillers and we need more refining capacity but the environmentalist whackos won't let us have it whiners, phfff

Even the newly discovered recoverable quantity of crude found in the Bakken Formation will improve the prices to the U.S. consumer.
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#14 Feb 16, 2012
Correction: Even the newly discovered recoverable quantity of crude found in the Bakken Formation will NOT improve the prices to the U.S. consumer.
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#15 Feb 16, 2012
Old Rocker wrote:
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I paid $3.21 yesterday. it's been that price for several days now so I expect it to jump to $3.49 very soon. Gas is always cheaper here in the winter. You are in peak tourist season down there this time of year. That's why gas costs more in Fla now. I'm sure gas will top $4 a gallon here in Michigan this summer when everyone starts traveling more. You get raped in the winter, we get raped in the summer.
$4 a gallon seems to be the threshold that gets everyone's attention.
To you Drill Baby Drill people, that will not reduce gas prices. Gas will be sold to whoever will generate the most profit. That's why so much of it is being exported. Drilling will have little impact on our gas prices.
That much of a price difference in Hudsonville? I'll go there for my gas.
say what

Farmington, MI

#16 Feb 16, 2012
It's $3.19 in many places today...I'd advise filling up soon...a price hike is probably iminent.
Michiganderanian

Caledonia, MI

#17 Feb 17, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
Romney will lower gas prices, plus jobs for all....
Wasn't that one of Obamas campaign pledges in 2008? I wonder if they're related? Weren't both their parents from another country?
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#18 Feb 17, 2012
Michiganderanian wrote:
<quoted text>Wasn't that one of Obamas campaign pledges in 2008? I wonder if they're related? Weren't both their parents from another country?
Not sure...never been hung up on pedigrees.....think presidents have all of, zero effect on gas prices.....

“lover”

Since: Feb 09

Dorr MI

#19 Feb 17, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
<quoted text> Not sure...never been hung up on pedigrees.....think presidents have all of, zero effect on gas prices.....
Sure didn't sound that way 4 years ago when Bush was president. Remember how the liberal media and all the progressives screamed bloody murder, it's Bush's fault? I read an article the other day that said a lot of the refineries problems are do to new EPA regulations. I'm not saying that big oil greed is one of the major reasons either.
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#20 Feb 17, 2012
Living Large2 wrote:
<quoted text>Sure didn't sound that way 4 years ago when Bush was president. Remember how the liberal media and all the progressives screamed bloody murder, it's Bush's fault? I read an article the other day that said a lot of the refineries problems are do to new EPA regulations. I'm not saying that big oil greed is one of the major reasons either.
No...Sorry, i just have never equated the US President with any real power, over OPEC....in fact, most of OPEC, is made up of countrys i don't really care for.....I am surprised, that the saudis would allow, fuel prices to remain this high, for very long....as it leads to alot of study of alternative fuel usage, and they are the type of country that should be wanting to keep the gas loving, among us, happy.....Oil is all that country has.....

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