Hoosier trucker acquitted in deadly crash

[Cpetr13]

Guess the widow is getting antsy for her share of the pie. I hope she's in court to hear all the stupid things her husband did. And the others are gonna get cramps keeping their hands out for so long.

Most of these will get settled. The fun part will be once the bus driver's contributions to the deaths are enumerated and the other turn on the widow for compensation. This whole "buzzards at the trough" thing could take years to clear up.

Jack50 wrote:

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[Jack50]

pha q wrote:

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I hope the Topix mods block your ISP addy you dip$hit troll and flamer.

[Jack50]

Cpetr13 wrote:

Guess the widow is getting antsy for her share of the pie. I hope she's in court to hear all the stupid things her husband did. And the others are gonna get cramps keeping their hands out for so long.
Most of these will get settled. The fun part will be once the bus driver's contributions to the deaths are enumerated and the other turn on the widow for compensation. This whole "buzzards at the trough" thing could take years to clear up.

A small portion of these things end up with a non-disclosure, diluted sympathy settlement, with lawyers diluting things even further.

Although I perceive, no glasses + no smoking gun = no money.

Plaintiffs in this case, surly would not want to risk another disappointing jury trial.

[The Truth]

unbelievable wrote:

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Oh, yes -... You see, more and more companies are requiring even owner/operators, to install what is referred to as Qualcomm. This allows the company to track a driver's route, drive time, and speed.
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Flo, don't get your underalls in a bunch. Mel still needs you to serve-up the hash browns when Vera is away.

Qualcomm is the COMPANY, not a product. I think the product you refer to is OmniTRACS. In addtion to the satellite/GPS tracing device you refer to, Qualcomm also has about 50%+ of the cellular phone chip/controls market and builds chipsets for other electronics like MP3 players, etc...

Looks like I know a bit more thay you about OTR logistics tracking!

The point is...let the cars drive like fools. If they drive wrecklessly, CALL THE POLICE. Because when I see a JACKASSED truck driver driving in an unsafe manner, I CALL THE POLICE!

BTW, I was also playing on the Chip Davis (CW McCall) series of truck driving songs, includding the movie Convoy.

[Cpetr13]

Referring to a product by its manufacturer's name is not necessarily a sign of not knowing the product. Sony makes many sansui makes many products, but I refer to my vcr as "the sansui" because it is the only piece of their equipment I have, and it is clearly marked for those who want to use the VCR and want to find it among the many other electronic equipment pieces I have.

HAve you never asked for4 a "Kleenex" instead of a tissue? Same principle.

The Truth wrote:

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Flo, don't get your underalls in a bunch. Mel still needs you to serve-up the hash browns when Vera is away.
Qualcomm is the COMPANY, not a product. I think the product you refer to is OmniTRACS. In addtion to the satellite/GPS tracing device you refer to, Qualcomm also has about 50%+ of the cellular phone chip/controls market and builds chipsets for other electronics like MP3 players, etc...
Looks like I know a bit more thay you about OTR logistics tracking!
The point is...let the cars drive like fools. If they drive wrecklessly, CALL THE POLICE. Because when I see a JACKASSED truck driver driving in an unsafe manner, I CALL THE POLICE!
BTW, I was also playing on the Chip Davis (CW McCall) series of truck driving songs, includding the movie Convoy.

[The Truth]

Cpetr13 wrote:

Referring to a product by its manufacturer's name is not necessarily a sign of not knowing the product.

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HAve you never asked for4 a "Kleenex" instead of a tissue? Same principle.
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Uh....not the same thing.

Do we now call ALL hamburgers White Castles?

Are all tires called Goodyears?

When I want a pizza, should I ask for a "Papa John's"? What if I want Pizza King?

And don't EVER bring me a Pepsi when I ask for a COKE!

Back to the topic:
I vote that all vehicles over 10,000 lbs. get their speed governed to 70 MPH!

Also, there should be an interlock that cuts fuel delivery to ALL vehicles engines (especially SUVs!) if the driver is using a cell phone for calls other than 911.

[Cpetr13]

Uuhh..exactly the same thing.

Most people just talk about getting burgers because there are so many varieties. AS for who you call for a pizza, that's up to you. I know people who ask if anybody wants Jack's, because that is the pizza company they like best. They often end up getting something someone else wants anyway.

Asking for a "coke" is actually part of american vocabulary, just as "soda" and "pop" are.

And what if the governor on the engine screws up? It could malfunction and speed it up with no recourse for the driver other than hitting the brakes and hoping for the best.

Although I intensely dislike cell phones, your suggestion is impractical. Besides 911, there are other numbers that may be important, especially for doctors. Or what if a minor needs to talk to a parent? Plus there is that whole freedom of speech issue.

The Truth wrote:

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Uh....not the same thing.
Do we now call ALL hamburgers White Castles?
Are all tires called Goodyears?
When I want a pizza, should I ask for a "Papa John's"? What if I want Pizza King?
And don't EVER bring me a Pepsi when I ask for a COKE!
Back to the topic:
I vote that all vehicles over 10,000 lbs. get their speed governed to 70 MPH!
Also, there should be an interlock that cuts fuel delivery to ALL vehicles engines (especially SUVs!) if the driver is using a cell phone for calls other than 911.

[The Truth]

Cpetr13 wrote:

Uuhh..exactly the same thing.
Most people just talk about getting burgers because there are so many varieties. AS for who you call for a pizza, that's up to you. I know people who ask if anybody wants Jack's, because that is the pizza company they like best. They often end up getting something someone else wants anyway.
Asking for a "coke" is actually part of american vocabulary, just as "soda" and "pop" are.
And what if the governor on the engine screws up? It could malfunction and speed it up with no recourse for the driver other than hitting the brakes and hoping for the best.
Although I intensely dislike cell phones, your suggestion is impractical. Besides 911, there are other numbers that may be important, especially for doctors. Or what if a minor needs to talk to a parent? Plus there is that whole freedom of speech issue.
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Driving is a PRIVLIDGE. It can be limited HOWEVER government sees fit!

Last time I checked, you didn't need a license to use a phone booth. And I have never heard of a phone booth plowing into a group of children, critically injuring several. Why should we drive in phone booths?

BTW, my Samsung mobile phone has a Qualcomm sticker on it. I still call it a Samsung.

[SoapBox Derby]

The Truth writes:
"How can a 2-ton car pose a risk to a 10 to 28 ton 18 wheeler?"

Are you serious?! A car, motorcycle, van, or even another 18-wheeler, can very easily change lanes and get RIGHT IN FRONT of an 18-wheeler, leaving no room to spare, and then slam its brakes on!

I saw this happen to my husband when I was riding with him one day in his 18-wheeler. The person in the car then swerved over to the right - again - and got onto the exit ramp!) With the lengthened stopping distance of a semi, what do you think would happen then? I'll tell you what...my husband had to slam on his brakes, but being the excellent driver that he is after 30+ years on the road, he managed to keep the "fishtailing" of his semi to a minimum. He was just lucky there was no one in the left lane at the time.

As I said before...statistics prove that most accidents that occur between an 18-wheeler and a car are the fault of the driver of the car, not the driver of the semi.

[Cpetr13]

Each state makes its own licensing rules. Not the Feds.

Yes, we could rule to eliminate cellphones for all but 911 calls. Tell me--does 911 fix flats? Will they call your home to get someone to come fix your flat, or will you have to pay an unnecessary fee? Will they tell your kids that you will be late because your car is stuck in traffic? Ther ARE good reasons to use a cellphone, and your rule would not benefit the public.

BTW--you can plow into a group of kids if your brakes give out, or of you are distracted by something. How many things are we going to outlaw before realizing that accidents will happen regardless of whatever precautions are taken?

BTW--even legal privileges must follow rules concerning constitutional issues and discrimination laaws.

The Truth wrote:

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Driving is a PRIVLIDGE. It can be limited HOWEVER government sees fit!
Last time I checked, you didn't need a license to use a phone booth. And I have never heard of a phone booth plowing into a group of children, critically injuring several. Why should we drive in phone booths?
BTW, my Samsung mobile phone has a Qualcomm sticker on it. I still call it a Samsung.

[Cpetr13]

Studies suggest that it's not so much that car drivers are more reckless but due to visual scale, a very large vehicle looks like it is going slower than it actually is. In other words, the car driver thinks that they have more time to change lanes than they actually do. I don't think this is brought up even in drivers ed.

SoapBox Derby wrote:

The Truth writes:
"How can a 2-ton car pose a risk to a 10 to 28 ton 18 wheeler?"
Are you serious?! A car, motorcycle, van, or even another 18-wheeler, can very easily change lanes and get RIGHT IN FRONT of an 18-wheeler, leaving no room to spare, and then slam its brakes on!
I saw this happen to my husband when I was riding with him one day in his 18-wheeler. The person in the car then swerved over to the right - again - and got onto the exit ramp!) With the lengthened stopping distance of a semi, what do you think would happen then? I'll tell you what...my husband had to slam on his brakes, but being the excellent driver that he is after 30+ years on the road, he managed to keep the "fishtailing" of his semi to a minimum. He was just lucky there was no one in the left lane at the time.
As I said before...statistics prove that most accidents that occur between an 18-wheeler and a car are the fault of the driver of the car, not the driver of the semi.

[KPT]

Cpetr13 wrote:

I suspect that the trucker's lawyer will end up savaging the bus driver if these cases get to court. They probably will not want to pursue the cases, or change the defendant to the college.
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[drs]

The jury has spoken and made the correct
decision. I wish to express my sympathy
to the familes that lost their loved ones.
Unfortunately accidents do happen and sometimes deaths or injuries do occur to our loved ones in the process. I would hope that people could put this nightmare
behind them and get on with their lives. I hope that the litagation will end quickly, so that the healing can begin.

[Hayward WI]

I travel that stretch of road alot, it is hilly with alot of curves and narrow shoulders with steep banks. The scariest part of that highway is the number of truck accidents. You can see the paths the trucks make into the trees, just this weekend there was a new cross placed in the gouged out path of another accident. The accident was tragic and I shutter every time my daughters bus travels back and forth for band events. I think they should lower the truckers speed limit in that area.