Get Real Hudson People!!!

Get Real Hudson People!!!

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Disgusted

United States

#1 Jul 19, 2008
I'm amazed at how hippocritical many of the Hudson people can be. I work in a local grocery store and it amazes me at how they so proudly use their tote bags claiming "I don't use plastic, It's bad for the environment!" and yet they pull up for us to help them load their gas guzzling vehicles such as Escalades, Hummers and other suvs! Wake up people! Do you really think you are helping our environment. Heaven forbid you give up those large vehicles for a smaller one with less power. Also I've witnessed many of the Hudson people be so wasteful with their food. Today, I took back a steak because the person decided she "didn't really need it". We had to refund chicken breasts because "they were the wrong kind", we've taken back many other things because "my husband picked up the wrong thing". GET REAL PEOPLE!!! Do you realize there is a world outside of Hudson full of people that can barely make ends meet? That are happy if they can put macaroni and cheese on the table? You all know who you are. I challenge you to make better choices. Think before you are so careless with your money and if you have so much to waste, then do something good with it for crying out loud!
mickie

Medina, OH

#3 Jul 22, 2008
We had lived in HUDSON FOR 8 YEARS BEFORE BEING TRANSFERRED OUT OF STATE. Hudson folks are plastic coated, in denial, are debt ridden to keep up with all the other Jones.....
The only good thing going was the excellent schools. Ours teenagers had a hard time fitting in at the local highschool but were far better off than those who were raised to be snobs, new money verus old money.
I would not take a home in Fairyland for nothing.
Proud Hudsonite

Cincinnati, OH

#4 Jul 23, 2008
Wow, jealous much? Who cares how hypocritcal some people are when it comes to b.s. eco-nonsense. If they don't use plastic bags, great. Who are you to tell them they can't drive whatever car they want? Maybe they have more than 2 kids like most families I know in Hudson. Maybe they use the suv to haul their boat, drive on family vacations, or have a 4wd for winter? I've been a lifelong Hudsonite and I laugh everytime I hear people complain about the town. No, your generalizations of debt ridden familes are not true. Everyone I know in town is doing just fine, and most are doing better by the day. The schools are excellent and the town is immaculate. If you're jealous that others live a life that doesn't conform to your ideologies, maybe you should work or live in another area. I can tell you though that Hudson has been a fine community for the last 100 years and will be so for the next 100 years, and that there's a reason people try to get in and not get out.
Disgusted

United States

#5 Jul 29, 2008
Jealous? No Way! I'm appalled at the way many of the privileged people of Hudson carry themselves; being wasteful (with food, gas, clothing) and with their heads buried in the sand about the state of the economy, gas prices, unemployment etc. There are people starving out there! Instead of buying those designer jeans and coach purses, how about donating to a food shelter. I'm not hurting financially but I also am not rich by any means. I told one young girl that I would never carry a coach purse no matter how much I could afford it. She asked why. I told her because I would be too embarrassed knowing that I could feed a poor family for a couple of weeks off of what I'd spend on a coach! Get my point? Many hudson people are wasteful! Taking back prime cuts of meat that are perfectly fine except for the fact that their spouse bought the wrong item. The idiots either must not realize or don't care that it has to get thrown in the garbage! Hey! I have an idea! How about giving it to the maid instead of seeing it get thrown out.
Hudsonian

Norwalk, OH

#6 Jul 29, 2008
Proud Hudsonite wrote:
Wow, jealous much? Who cares how hypocritcal some people are when it comes to b.s. eco-nonsense. If they don't use plastic bags, great. Who are you to tell them they can't drive whatever car they want? Maybe they have more than 2 kids like most families I know in Hudson. Maybe they use the suv to haul their boat, drive on family vacations, or have a 4wd for winter? I've been a lifelong Hudsonite and I laugh everytime I hear people complain about the town. No, your generalizations of debt ridden familes are not true. Everyone I know in town is doing just fine, and most are doing better by the day. The schools are excellent and the town is immaculate. If you're jealous that others live a life that doesn't conform to your ideologies, maybe you should work or live in another area. I can tell you though that Hudson has been a fine community for the last 100 years and will be so for the next 100 years, and that there's a reason people try to get in and not get out.
Using reckless procreation (more than 2 kids) as an excuse to have a large SUV is irresponsible. You can't say that you care about the environment if you breed like some damn rabbit.
Proud Hudsonite

Cincinnati, OH

#7 Jul 30, 2008
Disgusted wrote:
Jealous? No Way! I'm appalled at the way many of the privileged people of Hudson carry themselves; being wasteful (with food, gas, clothing) and with their heads buried in the sand about the state of the economy, gas prices, unemployment etc. There are people starving out there! Instead of buying those designer jeans and coach purses, how about donating to a food shelter. I'm not hurting financially but I also am not rich by any means. I told one young girl that I would never carry a coach purse no matter how much I could afford it. She asked why. I told her because I would be too embarrassed knowing that I could feed a poor family for a couple of weeks off of what I'd spend on a coach! Get my point? Many hudson people are wasteful! Taking back prime cuts of meat that are perfectly fine except for the fact that their spouse bought the wrong item. The idiots either must not realize or don't care that it has to get thrown in the garbage! Hey! I have an idea! How about giving it to the maid instead of seeing it get thrown out.
You're clearly generalizing, and completely clueless when you talk about the level of charity in Hudson. There are at least 163 registered non-profit charities in Hudson alone. The charitable donations from Hudson residents and businesses eclipsed the 10 Million dollar mark in 2004, and that's just to non-profits, nevermind donations of time, land, property, and money to academic institutions, and charities that don't have a non-profit status. A simple internet search gave me these stats, maybe next time before you try and lump an entire city into your conceived perception of them, you'll do a little fact-checking. And I assure you that the residents in town are very aware of the economic climate. They live there because they can afford to, because they've made good decisions in life, which means they pay attention to what's going on. Now if you get upset because they can fill their tanks that's your problem. If they can afford to do it, who are you to say how they should live their lives? As for your sole example of one returned piece of meat: you're right, it probably could have gone to better use, but once again, who are you to say they can't return something if it was bought in error? I'm guessing you work at Heinens? That's a service business, and if you don't let your customer return something, you're not offering them service. Try putting your jaded attitude towards the citizens aside and looking at the whole picture before making snap judgements about an entire city of 20,000.
Proud Hudsonite

Cincinnati, OH

#8 Jul 30, 2008
Hudsonian wrote:
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Using reckless procreation (more than 2 kids) as an excuse to have a large SUV is irresponsible. You can't say that you care about the environment if you breed like some damn rabbit.
Your comment puts you so far off the rational thought map that I considered not replying to it. However I thought I'd do you a favor and tell you exactly how you sound to all those that read your baseless, lunatic dribble.

I'd be careful posting anything else like what you did above, you're giving real creedence to the term Eco-NAZI.

Who are you to say that someone can't have more than 2 kids? Not everyone has to live the way you want them to. I'm guessing you don't have any kids and that's fine, but you don't have any say in how many others have or want to have. Sorry, this is America furher.

And if a family has more than 2 kids, and God forbid they want to go somewhere, how do you suggest they get there? Pile em all in the Prius? What if it's an out of town trip with luggage? Surely you don't want them to fly? That wastes way more fuel and energy! How dare they have a large car that can transport the entire family and their stuff all at once? That's like...gasp! Mass Transit!!! Ugh, the horror!

As far as someone not being able to claim that they are eco-friendly because they choose to have kids...wow...Nazi. I wasn't aware that being environmentally friendly was a pissing contest. You remind me of kids in high-school who would scoff at others because they were not as hard-core as them when it came to a certain topic; sports, fashion, money. It's really sad. If you're so concerned about the number of people on this planet and I'm assuming their pollution, you could start by setting an example and exiting as quickly as possible?
I Live in Hudson

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#9 Jul 31, 2008
Proud Hudsonite wrote:
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Your comment puts you so far off the rational thought map that I considered not replying to it. However I thought I'd do you a favor and tell you exactly how you sound to all those that read your baseless, lunatic dribble.
I'd be careful posting anything else like what you did above, you're giving real creedence to the term Eco-NAZI.
Who are you to say that someone can't have more than 2 kids? Not everyone has to live the way you want them to. I'm guessing you don't have any kids and that's fine, but you don't have any say in how many others have or want to have. Sorry, this is America furher.
And if a family has more than 2 kids, and God forbid they want to go somewhere, how do you suggest they get there? Pile em all in the Prius? What if it's an out of town trip with luggage? Surely you don't want them to fly? That wastes way more fuel and energy! How dare they have a large car that can transport the entire family and their stuff all at once? That's like...gasp! Mass Transit!!! Ugh, the horror!
As far as someone not being able to claim that they are eco-friendly because they choose to have kids...wow...Nazi. I wasn't aware that being environmentally friendly was a pissing contest. You remind me of kids in high-school who would scoff at others because they were not as hard-core as them when it came to a certain topic; sports, fashion, money. It's really sad. If you're so concerned about the number of people on this planet and I'm assuming their pollution, you could start by setting an example and exiting as quickly as possible?
Hudsonian never said that having kids was wrong, only that having an excessive number of kids is wrong. You say that if you're rich enough, you shouldn't have to care about the impact of your over-population. So you're saying that because certain Hudsonites were born into privilege and money, that trumps their obligation to be good shepherds of the environment? These second-and-third-generation sons and daughters of physicians and lawyers think that there are two distinct social classes in America: Royalty like themselves and Commoners like everyone else. Because they have money, they are entitled to be selfish snobs. You just handed the argument to the original author of the post. No other evidence is needed.
Proud Hudsonite

Cincinnati, OH

#10 Jul 31, 2008
I Live in Hudson wrote:
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Hudsonian never said that having kids was wrong, only that having an excessive number of kids is wrong. You say that if you're rich enough, you shouldn't have to care about the impact of your over-population. So you're saying that because certain Hudsonites were born into privilege and money, that trumps their obligation to be good shepherds of the environment? These second-and-third-generation sons and daughters of physicians and lawyers think that there are two distinct social classes in America: Royalty like themselves and Commoners like everyone else. Because they have money, they are entitled to be selfish snobs. You just handed the argument to the original author of the post. No other evidence is needed.
Your reading comprehension is as sharp as a marble. Where did I say anything about rich people being excused from being a good steward of the environment? Nowhere did I even link the two. What I DID say was that no one, no matter how hard-eco-core they think they are, has the right to tell anyone how many kids they can have.

Speaking of which tell me, since you're so informed, exactly how many kids are acceptable. I'd like to know so I can go out and yell at and publicly flog everyone that exceeds your arbitrary number. 1, 2, 3, 5? How many? How do you arrive at your number? How many children does it take to become "over-populating"?

Your tangent about your perceived attitudes of second and third generation "rich" people in town is truly laughable. Not only does it completely fail to address anything brought up here, but it is pure conjecture. Everyone I know in town that would fit your description is extremely concerned about their fellow man and environment. As a matter of fact, they use their money to address many social and ecological issues. They're the ones putting in geo-thermal heating/cooling systems in their homes, tankless water heaters, buying your precious hybrids. How many "commonors" as you put it, have the time between their 2-3 jobs to separate the trash and buy expensive eco-trendy items? What do you suggest these "royals" do? Bleed? Give everything they've earned in their lives to someone else? Tell me, I'm curious.

Saying I "handed" the argument to Hudsonian shows how skilled you are at debate, reading comprehension, and logic. Touche sir, you are truly a mental giant. Next time, read, address specific points, then post. Stop trying to assign fact to your baseless opinion of people.
I live in Hudson

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#12 Aug 1, 2008
Proud Hudsonite wrote:
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Speaking of which tell me, since you're so informed, exactly how many kids are acceptable. I'd like to know so I can go out and yell at and publicly flog everyone that exceeds your arbitrary number. 1, 2, 3, 5? How many? How do you arrive at your number? How many children does it take to become "over-populating"?
No more than two well-behaved kids who are raised with careful attention to avoid inheriting the "Entitlement Mentality" would be just fine.
I live in Hudson

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#13 Aug 1, 2008
This is not an "arbitrary number." I certainly don't advocate forced limitation of procreation as they have in China, but I do think that when you exceed the number determined by population scientists to prevent further uncontrolled population growth, you are showing a very selfish side. That number is just slightly above two children per couple in the industrialized world and slightly higher in developing countries because of the higher rate of infant mortality and lower life expectancy.
Disgusted

United States

#14 Aug 1, 2008
I live in Hudson wrote:
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No more than two well-behaved kids who are raised with careful attention to avoid inheriting the "Entitlement Mentality" would be just fine.
I for one applaud you for that! There needs to be more parents who are as conscientious.
Hudsonian

Norwalk, OH

#15 Aug 1, 2008
I would like to address the issue of, "If I can afford to buy up all the gas at the gas station, why shouldn't I?" Because gasoline is an inelastic commodity, that's why. It doesn't follow the rule of macroeconomics that when the price gets to an unreasonavle level, people will buy less. What the selfish gas guzzlers are doing is keeping the price of gasoline high for everyone. So, yes, it is ALL of our business what car you drive!!!
Disgusted

United States

#16 Aug 1, 2008
Hudsonian wrote:
I would like to address the issue of, "If I can afford to buy up all the gas at the gas station, why shouldn't I?" Because gasoline is an inelastic commodity, that's why. It doesn't follow the rule of macroeconomics that when the price gets to an unreasonavle level, people will buy less. What the selfish gas guzzlers are doing is keeping the price of gasoline high for everyone. So, yes, it is ALL of our business what car you drive!!!
Well said! Thankyou!
Proud Hudsonite

Fairborn, OH

#17 Aug 2, 2008
Hudsonian wrote:
I would like to address the issue of, "If I can afford to buy up all the gas at the gas station, why shouldn't I?" Because gasoline is an inelastic commodity, that's why. It doesn't follow the rule of macroeconomics that when the price gets to an unreasonavle level, people will buy less. What the selfish gas guzzlers are doing is keeping the price of gasoline high for everyone. So, yes, it is ALL of our business what car you drive!!!
You are way to emotional to debate like an adult. A simple google search disproves your "argument" with pages of articles on how gas use is down DRAMATICLY in America. So no, people are not buying up all the gas regardless of the price. No, gas does follow market actions - higher prices have curbed gas use. And no, it's not any of your business what car anyone drives. Period. Stalin would love more people like you. Maybe Chairman Mao is looking for a new car-czar? You can't tell anyone what to drive. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR REASONS TO DO SO ARE SO FACTUALLY WRONG!

Seriously, I've tried to be nice, but you are a moron. Read something. Anything! Before you post, it will make you sound much more intelligent if if you pick up a paper, watch the news, read a book, check the internet before forming such baseless opionions.

Here's just one article from two weeks ago:

AMERICANS USE LESS GAS, HURT HIGHWAY TRUST FUND
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080710/us_nm/con...

Gas use is down by 40,000,000 barrels in America this year! Seriously read, you sound so un-informed and emotional when you spout off. Maybe you need a hobby? How about shedding all that pent up anger in a good workout?

Remember cheif: read, think, fact-check, then post.
Proud Hudsonite

Fairborn, OH

#18 Aug 2, 2008
Disgusted wrote:
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Well said! Thankyou!
Well parroted! Think for yourself, and get some facts before being an emotional sheep.

See the above post, it encompasses you too.
Proud Hudsonite

Fairborn, OH

#19 Aug 2, 2008
I live in Hudson wrote:
This is not an "arbitrary number." I certainly don't advocate forced limitation of procreation as they have in China, but I do think that when you exceed the number determined by population scientists to prevent further uncontrolled population growth, you are showing a very selfish side. That number is just slightly above two children per couple in the industrialized world and slightly higher in developing countries because of the higher rate of infant mortality and lower life expectancy.
Yes, that is a completely arbitrary number. Just because someone you agree with says that we should all have no more than 2.5 kids doesn't mean any more is overpopulating. You fail to take into account those who don't ever have kids. What would you do about single mom's in the ghettos across America giving birth every 9 months to get another gov'ment check? Would you start with those that breed wrecklessly, or do you feel more confortable attacking those that can provide for their kids?

Think about that for a minute.

You may say that you disagree with China's policy, but you are advocating exactly that. Ever heard of the "Great Leap Forward"? That was Mao's massive social engineering experiment where one of the components was to limit a family's number of children becuase he...gasp!... listened to population scientists, social engineers, and other experts that you cite so affectionately.

Read a little bit more, you may find that your views are exactly that of those you purport to hate.
Hudsonian

Norwalk, OH

#20 Aug 2, 2008
Proud Hudsonite wrote:
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You are way to emotional to debate like an adult. A simple google search disproves your "argument" with pages of articles on how gas use is down DRAMATICLY in America. So no, people are not buying up all the gas regardless of the price. No, gas does follow market actions - higher prices have curbed gas use. And no, it's not any of your business what car anyone drives. Period. Stalin would love more people like you. Maybe Chairman Mao is looking for a new car-czar? You can't tell anyone what to drive. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR REASONS TO DO SO ARE SO FACTUALLY WRONG!
Seriously, I've tried to be nice, but you are a moron. Read something. Anything! Before you post, it will make you sound much more intelligent if if you pick up a paper, watch the news, read a book, check the internet before forming such baseless opionions.
Here's just one article from two weeks ago:
AMERICANS USE LESS GAS, HURT HIGHWAY TRUST FUND
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080710/us_nm/con...
Gas use is down by 40,000,000 barrels in America this year! Seriously read, you sound so un-informed and emotional when you spout off. Maybe you need a hobby? How about shedding all that pent up anger in a good workout?
Remember cheif: read, think, fact-check, then post.
Oh, I'm so glad that you brought that up about falling gas use. What caused it? People who used to save all year to get a few thousand dollars put away for vacation are now putting that money in their gas tank. As a result, they aren't taking their annual vacation, so tens of thousands of people in the transporation, hotel, entertainment, spa, restaurant, and service industries have been laid off. The 40 cent drop in gas price is paid for on the backs of those people. But you sit in your ivory palace with your manicured lawn, you go to your ice cream socials on the green, and you think, "Life is good." Not for people outside the enclave of Hudson. For the rest of America, life is very bad because selfish people like you continue to deny the social impact of your selfishness.
Hudsonian

Norwalk, OH

#21 Aug 3, 2008
Now before you continue to say that the elimination of discretionary driving proves that gasoline is an elastic commodity, think of where we are now: middle and low-income Americans have reached a baseline for gasoline consumption that they just can't reduce any further. It would be like telling a diabetic, "Well if you don't like the high price of insulin, use less!!" They MUST use gasoline to get to work, the grocery store, the doctor, etc. What they can no longer continue to do is enjoy life. Thanks very much!
Disgusted

United States

#22 Aug 4, 2008
Proud Hudsonite wrote:
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Well parroted! Think for yourself, and get some facts before being an emotional sheep.
See the above post, it encompasses you too.
Wow! So touchy just because I agree with someone? You are clearly the emotional one. Why so hostile? Is it perhaps that we have struck a nerve with you? That you are one of the SUV gas guzzling drivers or maybe wasteful in some other area like taking back your beef tenderloin because you changed your mind and want strip steak instead? Hey! We can all stand to do more to help our environment and be more mindful of how wasteful we are as a society. If we struck a nerve with you to the point of name calling ("moron" , "clueless", "eco nazi",) or personal attacks ("read something, anything..", "How about shedding all that pent up anger in a good workout?") THEN, MY FRIEND, I THINK YOU NEED TO EXAMINE YOUR INTELLIGENCE. Name calling and assuming someone isn't intelligent or doesn't read just because they don't agree with you? I think you are clearly the emotional one.
We all have our opinions and quite honestly you can google anything you want to believe.
I do agree with you as far as the debate on how many children someone should have. I'm not touching that one. There are many people who "breed recklessly" as you say and can't afford to pay for their children themselves. I think that issue needs to be addressed as well.
You also make the argument that perhaps people need those suvs to transport their large familys (or their boats). I agree if it is necessary, than by all means get an suv! But, there are many who drive as symbol of status. I've really never seen so many Hummers until I started working in Hudson. Can you honestly tell me that those people need those 12 mpg hummers to transport their large brood? I've never seen a whole family in a Hummer! Perhaps Mommy and Daddy bought it for junior's graduation present. If so, shame on them! And if you don't think that many Hudson people have this attitude, than you are the clueless one!

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