Suspect's father says son unstable, b...

Suspect's father says son unstable, belongs in jail

There are 9 comments on the Fox 31 KDVR story from Feb 25, 2010, titled Suspect's father says son unstable, belongs in jail. In it, Fox 31 KDVR reports that:

HUDSON, Colo. - The father of the Deer Creek Middle School shooting suspect believes his son's mental condition played a major role in what happened Tuesday afternoon.

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a concerned citizen

United States

#1 Feb 25, 2010
why are we seeing more and more young men with mental diorders? What's going on in our society? My prayers are with the victims and families.
Dolphinbaby26

Aurora, CO

#2 Feb 25, 2010
I realize that the suspect had a record, but that does not excuse what has happened. He and his father are friends of mine and my family. I have known war eagle since I was a young girl. This is as much as a surprise to us as is to anyone. This has been difficult to handle as I couldn't imagine how the students and families are feeling. We will all heal. I think that things need to change when it comes to health ins. This country has made it almost impossible to get health ins. It is almost impossible to get ins anymore in this day and age. The suspect was not able to do so do to unforseen circumstances and not being able to afford to get the right help. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone involved.
Peace

Boulder, CO

#3 Feb 25, 2010
My heart breaks for this father and he is in my thoughts. i can't imagine how he must feel right now. It is not the father's fault. I hope War knows that there is an entire community who supports him
ALF

Littleton, CO

#4 Feb 25, 2010
Why couldn't the voices tell this clown to lie down on the railroad tracks years before!?!?!?
TooMuch

Denver, CO

#5 Feb 25, 2010
Peace wrote:
My heart breaks for this father and he is in my thoughts. i can't imagine how he must feel right now. It is not the father's fault. I hope War knows that there is an entire community who supports him
Hey, if you want to see young men with mental disorders, who I believe think similarly the shooter, lying down and dying, then take a walk through the 5 points area of Denver at night. These are people with mental disorders whose conditions have them thinking the same thoughts as those who go out and kill people occasionally, but many of them would never do anything to hurt anyone. They just wont. Look up OCD in wikipedia.org . If watching them die makes you feel better, go take a look. You wont have to spend much of your time. About 350 of them sleep and die on the sidewalks of Denver every year. Many of them land there after our judicial system "processes" them after an arrest resulting from sexual, violent, and/or drug and alcohol use related crimes. They get hammered by the judicial system, driven broke, put in debt, and then set loose on the streets with nothing. Maybe you should just hang out at the morgue and wait for the police and EMTs to bring the bodies in. That may be safer for you. Bring a bottle of wine or your favorite scotch and enjoy your obsessions.
TooMuch

Denver, CO

#6 Feb 25, 2010
ALF wrote:
Why couldn't the voices tell this clown to lie down on the railroad tracks years before!?!?!?
Sorry Peace, this was meant for the idiot.

Hey, if you want to see young men with mental disorders, who I believe think similarly the shooter, lying down and dying, then take a walk through the 5 points area of Denver at night. These are people with mental disorders whose conditions have them thinking the same thoughts as those who go out and kill people occasionally, but many of them would never do anything to hurt anyone. They just wont. Look up OCD in wikipedia.org . If watching them die makes you feel better, go take a look. You wont have to spend much of your time. About 350 of them sleep and die on the sidewalks of Denver every year. Many of them land there after our judicial system "processes" them after an arrest resulting from sexual, violent, and/or drug and alcohol use related crimes. They get hammered by the judicial system, driven broke, put in debt, and then set loose on the streets with nothing. Maybe you should just hang out at the morgue and wait for the police and EMTs to bring the bodies in. That may be safer for you. Bring a bottle of wine or your favorite scotch and enjoy your obsessions.
Mountain Man

Loveland, CO

#7 Feb 25, 2010
a concerned citizen wrote:
why are we seeing more and more young men with mental diorders? What's going on in our society? My prayers are with the victims and families.
I read a medical study not too along ago that stated that the USA has the highest population of depressed and mentally unstable people.

I asked why would the country with the highest standard of living have the most depressed and mentally unstables? Here is my theory:

When you live in a 3rd world country most of your day is spent in surviving. Hauling water, growing and preparing food, hand washing clothes etc. Here in pampered America we all live such pampered lives that we have too much time to dwell on our own miserable existence. The material world we live has caused some of these issues. Don't know if this applies to this guy, but it could be a reason why we have soooo many people popping prozac.
eyaskee

Kansas City, MO

#8 Feb 25, 2010
Mountain Man wrote:
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I read a medical study not too along ago that stated that the USA has the highest population of depressed and mentally unstable people.
I asked why would the country with the highest standard of living have the most depressed and mentally unstables? Here is my theory:
When you live in a 3rd world country most of your day is spent in surviving. Hauling water, growing and preparing food, hand washing clothes etc. Here in pampered America we all live such pampered lives that we have too much time to dwell on our own miserable existence. The material world we live has caused some of these issues. Don't know if this applies to this guy, but it could be a reason why we have soooo many people popping prozac.
I agree with some of what you wrote. I don't want to beat the dead horse of hollywood influence on society, but just look at the main theme of DON QUIXOTE. Yeah he seems to be the lovable, yet insane man who thought he was a knight so he charged at windmills. Cervantes has the concerned elders of his town and his relatives come up with the theory that because he didn't really need to work all he did was read books about knights and dragons and similar fantasy tales that he could no longer tell the difference between reality and what his mind told him was reality. There is something going on with young men in this country and prescription drugs are not the answer. There are toddlers on anti-depressants and doctors who see this as the answer. This is all a tragic turn of events and nobody is going to come out better. Sure the kids will have this event in their lives and now know that their world is no longer safe and so their innocence has been lost in this respect. His family has come to terms with this and continue to live as best they can where they have been part of a community. The liberals will call for tighter gun laws and more government run health care that will have us all on meds. And this man will have to serve his time in the prison system where hopefully he gets the help he needs and get his GED and not a Ph.D in criminology from the inmate-professors. Well, you know what's wrong with the world today, People done gone and put their Bible's away. They're living by the law of the jungle not the law of the land." Charlie Daniels "Simple Man"
Simple Man myass

Denver, CO

#9 Feb 25, 2010
"There is something going on with young men in this country and prescription drugs are not the answer."
I agree. How about let them have a chance at a future instead of beating them down with preferential treatment programs and bring your daughter to work days? Maybe its because they are not blind and stupid, just depressed by watching what is happening to their chances of having and holding on to a decent job these days and for the rest of their life and hearing that same sentiment from older men. And being pushed out of the way while watching the happy, smart, and healthy girls they were friends with and who liked them in high school all of a sudden being treated like poor little things that have been abused their whole lives by men. Think I am wrong? I hope so, but after 30 years of this crap can anyone show me any type of a study that looks at the cost of the preferential treatment laws and programs and calculate the trillions of dollars it has cost the government and affected corporations over the last 30 years to impose them and enforce them and litigate and pay out settlements in law suits? Just one study please? Can we see what that same money could have bought ALL OF US in health care, education for people who actually know how to read, or ANYTHING ELSE? Can we get the younger men out from under failed policies and laws that rule the roost about who gets a job at work? Can we stop this nonsense about how Indian and South American technical labor is 25% to 50% per hour cheaper? The few skilled Americans left on the job site in technical roles are watching the Indian and South American people charging 10 times as many hours than it takes American technical labor to do the same job. You don't think the kids are listening to these stories from their dads and uncles? You really think I believe that the women in our country really don't know why the young men are depressed? Hah. What a joke!!!!

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