Niagara looks for solution to wastewa...

Niagara looks for solution to wastewater problem

There are 8 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from May 22, 2008, titled Niagara looks for solution to wastewater problem. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

While Niagara Bottling LLC looks for millions of gallons of fresh drinking water to package and sell from a new plant under construction near Groveland, the company may also have to find a place to get rid of a ...

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Loco

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#1 May 22, 2008
This Beucher dude and politicians like Stivender only look at the dollar. Residents will always lose in the long run to the mighty dollar.We have no one in Lake County to fight for the best interest of the common man.

Since: Dec 07

Clermont, Florida

#2 May 22, 2008
I was told that the Commissioners really have no authority over this plan, although Elaine Reddick has backed the people and voiced opposition to Niagra coming in.

To allow Niagra to come in here, take water from the aquifer, sell it and make a profit is absolutely obscene. We're probably headed for even more water restrictions because of the shortage of water yet a company can make a big profit from our supply.

If this is allowed to go through, then maybe we're not as short on water as we're being told, but just another ploy to either tax us further or raise water rates.
water WARS

Apopka, FL

#3 May 22, 2008
water wars at home nice..........
we got an election coming up folks
Cadwell, Stivender, and Hill
send um a message
tap19

Addison, TX

#4 May 22, 2008
Keep allowing our aquafier to be destroyed by them and some of the developing and we will see more and more SINK HOLES open up from poor planning over the almighty dollar. Some decisions are not worth the profit over destruction of our gracious land that we are allowed to be part of. Enjoy the fruits of it not diplinish it as they want to. The only way for future generations to come and know the past and what needs to be done to allow survival of ALL Humanity to survive.
Chris

Daytona Beach, FL

#5 May 22, 2008
This is ridiculous, Niagara bought a plant with no water permit and no place to send wastewater. The residents and local governments oppose the plant. We are on water restrictions and plans to spend billions to "find" new water are being discussed. So, you, the taxpayer, subsidize Niagara profits while you get stuck with paying for very, very expensive alternative water sources??? What's next? Slow growth candidates on the Commission are important as noted above. Stivender has got to go. Renick and Stewart both oppose rampant development and depletion of OUR groundwater....the arrogance and junvenile business practices of Niagara are appalling. Get ready to get screwed!
Darrell

Winter Springs, FL

#6 May 22, 2008
Ranchers know how many head of cattle a piece of land will support and for how long. Yet the State of Florida either doesn't know or, more likely, doesn't care about the natural resources of the state and how many people it will support.
The state mandates that the communities get a consumptive use permit from the "Water Management District" and the citizens pay for the usage. However, if you live outside the community in the unincorporated areas you can get a permit to drill a well and use every damned drop of water you please, thank you very much, and pay no water rate at all. Sound equitable?
The state also confuses the concept of freedom with that of license to exploit at will as long as you have the MONEY to do it. It is, afterall, all about MONEY.
So, Niagra is approved anyway, because (as one county commissioner told me a few years ago)this is a "free country".He doesn't know the meaning of the word. Freedom is not license. Freedom requires responsibility.
The use of our natural resources requires that as well.
Someone said on one of these posts, "follow the money"!
How true it is.
Realistic

Apopka, FL

#7 May 22, 2008
I've listened to the water debate with much interest. First and foremost, conservation is a GOOD thing. We need to pay attention to our resources and be guardians of it.
BUT, the most important resource we have in this county is our citizenry (sp?). While some think the bottling plant may not be the best source of jobs right now , it apparently was BEFORE all the hulla-ballu this Fall. The commishes courted Niagra to come here. It was only after the complaints and it being an election yr did they back tract and found it distainful to vote in favor of the incentives promised to the bottlers.
Only those who never had to make a payroll think this all about money...In this case "Following the money" means JOBS.
Real world

Eddyville, KY

#8 May 22, 2008
Realistic wrote:
I've listened to the water debate with much interest. First and foremost, conservation is a GOOD thing. We need to pay attention to our resources and be guardians of it.
BUT, the most important resource we have in this county is our citizenry (sp?). While some think the bottling plant may not be the best source of jobs right now , it apparently was BEFORE all the hulla-ballu this Fall. The commishes courted Niagra to come here. It was only after the complaints and it being an election yr did they back tract and found it distainful to vote in favor of the incentives promised to the bottlers.
Only those who never had to make a payroll think this all about money...In this case "Following the money" means JOBS.
It wasn't the Commission that invited Niagara, it was an Economic Development organization. If you take a look at Niagara's website ( www.niagarawater.com ), they explain that these wonderful jobs will pay "an average wage of over $38,000 annually". You can earn more working at WalMart.

When Groveland first said they wouldn't grant a permit to let Niagara dump its waste in their wastewater system, Niagara threatened to sue and said they'd get a permit anyway. Way to demonstrate what a good neighbor you'll be, Niagara.

The website says that Niagara has offered to 'donate' its recycled water (meaning treated wastewater) to Groveland so it can use that as part of its system to irrigate landscaping. Wait - isn't this the same wastewater that Niagara originally insisted that Groveland treat?

And the website says Niagara 'has also committed to pay approximately $760,000 to build the recycle water pipeline to carry the donated water to the city.' Stranger and stranger - any business that needs to hook up to a sewer system has to pay for its connection. So how is this any different?

Cities and counties don't grant permits to withdraw raw water from a groundwater aquifer in Florida. That power is given by the state to the water management districts. They are the only ones who can allow this use of water or deny it.

Individual water wells serving homes that use on-site systems (septic tanks and wells) are permitted by the State's Public Health Dept. in each county. In order to get that permit, you have to submit info to Public Health that shows how deep the well will go, how much you will withdraw, etc.

If the well is too close to or there are other problems, it can be denied. The amount of water that an individual water well can pump will not be the equivalent of what Niagara is asking to withdraw.

Right now, there is no real connection between what Public Health permits and what the Water Management Districts permit. To the best of my knowledge, they don't even share data.

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