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Iraq

#1 Mar 26, 2011
SoundOff Caller:
"Seems Secretary of State Duran has put many worker hours into finding 37 who voted illegally from 2003 to 2010. Big whoop. That is statewide. Nothing to sway any elections there."

Wow, nothing like trying to minimize the problem. These revelations highlight the fact that this problem, which so many of you libs have denied even existed, is in fact, real.

Caller:
"Kudos to my fellow NMSU professor who seeks to prevent head injuries during bull riding and rodeo. Here's a better way; let's stop torturing these horses and these bulls by riding them in rodeos for our own amusement."

..........HAHA!

Since: Sep 08

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Mar 26, 2011
"Hey you attackers of George Bush and Iraq, where are your voices now when Obama has followed the UN in attacking Libya..." I don't like it, but the caller mixed apples with horse apples.

President Obama was responding to an immediate threat to damn near a million Libyans with approval/pleas from both the UN and the Arab League. He didn't spend a year and half LYING to the American people to justify the illegal and immoral invasion and occupation.
LC Today

Las Cruces, NM

#3 Mar 26, 2011
"It really amazes me how New Mexico is broke, yet Susana Martinez can spend $63,000 on furniture."

What amazes me is the ongoing ignorance being displayed by people like you. She had a budget allotment of over $250,000 to refurbish the Governor's Mansion, and I think she did an admirable job of keeping it in check.

Now....where was your outrage when the former moron, Richardson, bought a jet which the state did not need? I didn't hear of your amazement at that time.
Realist

Las Cruces, NM

#4 Mar 26, 2011
PlacitasRoy wrote:
"Hey you attackers of George Bush and Iraq, where are your voices now when Obama has followed the UN in attacking Libya..." I don't like it, but the caller mixed apples with horse apples.
President Obama was responding to an immediate threat to damn near a million Libyans with approval/pleas from both the UN and the Arab League. He didn't spend a year and half LYING to the American people to justify the illegal and immoral invasion and occupation.
No, but he will spend a year telling us why it was right to go to Libya, but ignore all the other places in the world that are experiencing protests with regime crack-downs and murders, or other genocide. Humanitarian reasoning does not filter well with everything going on in the world today - 12+ countries in uproar; but he choices one.

Some will say it is the oil; but we don't use Libyan oil grades (but the Chinese and Russian do).

Sorry PR, don't buy the humanitarian role on this, when compared to other countries with similar issues, nor can it be supported with such a delay. If our role was to "pop-off" a 100+ Tomahawk missiles, then why so long? All those people that lost their lives could have lived.

Be real - USA can't be the world cop all the time. As Obama has shown by ignoring the same human atrocities in other countries in Africa and the Middle-East.
LC Today

Las Cruces, NM

#5 Mar 26, 2011
PlacitasRoy wrote:
"Hey you attackers of George Bush and Iraq, where are your voices now when Obama has followed the UN in attacking Libya..." I don't like it, but the caller mixed apples with horse apples.
President Obama was responding to an immediate threat to damn near a million Libyans with approval/pleas from both the UN and the Arab League. He didn't spend a year and half LYING to the American people to justify the illegal and immoral invasion and occupation.
Hey, dummy........Saddam Hussein slaughtered millions of his people with Mustard Gas (what.......??? He had a weapon of mass destruction.....? Well, I'll be damned.) I didn't read any self rightous statements by you about how Bush had a right to intercede on the behalf of innocent civilians.

You are a consumate hypocrite and liar.

Since: Sep 08

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Mar 26, 2011
LC Today wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, dummy........Saddam Hussein slaughtered millions of his people with Mustard Gas (what.......??? He had a weapon of mass destruction.....? Well, I'll be damned.) I didn't read any self rightous statements by you about how Bush had a right to intercede on the behalf of innocent civilians.
You are a consumate hypocrite and liar.
The gutless ChickenHawk LIAR didn't use "innocent civilians" as a justification for his illegal and immoral invasion and occupation. That justification just became a propaganda talking point came AFTER the LIE about WMDs was exposed. There weren't any WMDs found by the inspectors up until the day they were ordered out so the illegal and immoral invasion could begin. There were no WMDs found after the illegal and immoral invasion.

The only threat to 'innocent civilians' at the time of the illegal and immoral invasion was the massive death and destruction caused by the economic sanctions imposed by the west. At least 500,000 children died as the result of those sanctions well before the illegal and immoral invasion.

Dubya's illegal and immoral invasion killed more innocent Iraqis than Saddam did as well as displacing over 5 million, and further destroying their infrastructure.

You prove once again there is no limit to the ignorance and gullibility of the dittoheads, foxholes, and teabaggers.
never saw

Albuquerque, NM

#7 Mar 26, 2011
PlacitasRoy wrote:
<quoted text>
The gutless ChickenHawk LIAR didn't use "innocent civilians" as a justification for his illegal and immoral invasion and occupation. That justification just became a propaganda talking point came AFTER the LIE about WMDs was exposed. There weren't any WMDs found by the inspectors up until the day they were ordered out so the illegal and immoral invasion could begin. There were no WMDs found after the illegal and immoral invasion.
The only threat to 'innocent civilians' at the time of the illegal and immoral invasion was the massive death and destruction caused by the economic sanctions imposed by the west. At least 500,000 children died as the result of those sanctions well before the illegal and immoral invasion.
Dubya's illegal and immoral invasion killed more innocent Iraqis than Saddam did as well as displacing over 5 million, and further destroying their infrastructure.
You prove once again there is no limit to the ignorance and gullibility of the dittoheads, foxholes, and teabaggers.
so many lies in a single post

Since: Sep 08

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Mar 26, 2011
"Seems Secretary of State Duran has put many worker hours into finding 37 who voted illegally from 2003 to 2010. Big whoop." Unless there has been an update I've missed, those allegations have yet to be proven.

It must be remembered that the allegations were made on what was assumed to be the last day the committee would debate the unneeded Photo ID bill.

Additionally one must ask, if this was such a big problem, why did not the Donna Ana DA & now governor find some criminal cases to prosecute? Or any of the Repuglicon sheriffs, county clerks, or DAs in the state?

Since: Sep 08

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Mar 26, 2011
never saw wrote:
<quoted text>so many lies in a single post
But you are too mentally incompetent to find a single one. You too prove there is no limit to the ignorance and gullibility of the dittoheads, foxholes, and teabaggers.

I stand by my comments:

The gutless ChickenHawk LIAR didn't use "innocent civilians" as a justification for his illegal and immoral invasion and occupation. That justification just became a propaganda talking point came AFTER the LIE about WMDs was exposed. There weren't any WMDs found by the inspectors up until the day they were ordered out so the illegal and immoral invasion could begin. There were no WMDs found after the illegal and immoral invasion.

The only threat to 'innocent civilians' at the time of the illegal and immoral invasion was the massive death and destruction caused by the economic sanctions imposed by the west. At least 500,000 children died as the result of those sanctions well before the illegal and immoral invasion.

Dubya's illegal and immoral invasion killed more innocent Iraqis than Saddam did as well as displacing over 5 million, and further destroying their infrastructure.

You prove once again there is no limit to the ignorance and gullibility of the dittoheads, foxholes, and teabaggers.
cheese

Gallup, NM

#10 Mar 26, 2011
Keep posting Placitas because it just proves to us conservatives that 1 vote does mean alot. No matter how crazy you are.

Since: Sep 08

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Mar 26, 2011
cheese wrote:
Keep posting Placitas because it just proves to us conservatives that 1 vote does mean alot. No matter how crazy you are.
Oh I know you all believe that a vote means a lot. That's why the Repuglicon Sec of State in Indiana is under 7 felony indictments for voter fraud! That's why the Republican Party in Donna Ana county altered Democrats' registration forms. That's why the Repuglican operative in California was throwing away Democratic registration forms. That's why there is such an effort to disenfranchise as many people as possible.

Paul Weyrich damn sure knew that 30 years ago!
For the Rosetta Stone of Republican disenfranchisement efforts, one need look no further than what Paul Weyrich, one of the founding fathers of modern American conservatism, told a gathering of some 15,000 preachers at a training conference in Dallas, Texas in 1980 (Ronald Reagan & Rev. Jerry Falwell also shared the podium).
PAUL WEYRICH GOO-GOO QUOTE

Paul Weyrich, father of the right-wing movement and co-founder of the Heritage Foundation, Moral Majority and various other groups tells his flock that he doesn't want people to vote. That's why the GOP is obsessed with voter fraud---only they want to disenfranchise voters because, as Weyrich said back in the '80's...the more voters there are---the less of a chance the Reich-wingers have in any election.

How many of our Christians have what I call ‘the Goo-Goo’ syndrome? Good Government. They want EVERYONE to vote! I DON’T WANT EVERYONE TO VOTE! ELECTIONS ARE NOT won by the majority of people – THEY NEVER HAVE BEEN FROM THE BEGINNING OF OUR COUNTRY AND THEY ARE NOT NOW! As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections, quite candidly, goes up as the voting populous goes down!

Watch the Weyrich video beginning at about 2:45 into this video: http://www.thomhartmann.com/bigpicture/thom-h...
leonardo

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Mar 26, 2011
Hey you attackers of George Bush and Iraq, where are your voices now when Obama has followed the UN in attacking Libya and is sending drones in to hurt people and harm them in Libya.
The republicans have a great opportunity to impeach this muslim impostor , dont blow it !!!!
Donna

Albuquerque, NM

#13 Mar 26, 2011
PlacitasRoy wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh I know you all believe that a vote means a lot. That's why the Repuglicon Sec of State in Indiana is under 7 felony indictments for voter fraud! That's why the Republican Party in Donna Ana county altered Democrats' registration forms. That's why the Repuglican operative in California was throwing away Democratic registration forms. That's why there is such an effort to disenfranchise as many people as possible.
Paul Weyrich damn sure knew that 30 years ago!
For the Rosetta Stone of Republican disenfranchisement efforts, one need look no further than what Paul Weyrich, one of the founding fathers of modern American conservatism, told a gathering of some 15,000 preachers at a training conference in Dallas, Texas in 1980 (Ronald Reagan & Rev. Jerry Falwell also shared the podium).
PAUL WEYRICH GOO-GOO QUOTE
Paul Weyrich, father of the right-wing movement and co-founder of the Heritage Foundation, Moral Majority and various other groups tells his flock that he doesn't want people to vote. That's why the GOP is obsessed with voter fraud---only they want to disenfranchise voters because, as Weyrich said back in the '80's...the more voters there are---the less of a chance the Reich-wingers have in any election.
How many of our Christians have what I call ‘the Goo-Goo’ syndrome? Good Government. They want EVERYONE to vote! I DON’T WANT EVERYONE TO VOTE! ELECTIONS ARE NOT won by the majority of people – THEY NEVER HAVE BEEN FROM THE BEGINNING OF OUR COUNTRY AND THEY ARE NOT NOW! As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections, quite candidly, goes up as the voting populous goes down!
Watch the Weyrich video beginning at about 2:45 into this video: http://www.thomhartmann.com/bigpicture/thom-h...
Thank you for naming a new county after me.
Allen

Santa Fe, NM

#14 Mar 26, 2011
LC Today wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, dummy........Saddam Hussein slaughtered millions of his people with Mustard Gas (what.......??? He had a weapon of mass destruction.....? Well, I'll be damned.) I didn't read any self rightous statements by you about how Bush had a right to intercede on the behalf of innocent civilians.
You are a consumate hypocrite and liar.
If Bush had saved those millions then you would have a point but he didn't. Obama did.
Proud Native New Mexican

United States

#15 Mar 26, 2011
To each and every Dona Ana County resident that doesn't have their cats and dogs spayed? WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?!?!! Not only will it keep your kittens and puppies out of the Animal Shelter, you pet will be healthier! It is not better for a female dog or female cat to have a litter before getting spayed. Who told you that?
A male cat nor a male dog doesn't need to visit a female before getting neutered. Who told you that?
It is the responsibility of the owner of the pet to give it the best care possible. Does your cat or your dog have all their shots? Do you provide your pets with heart-worm preventative medication? Do you make sure they do not have fleas or ticks? If you do not, you should not have a pet. It is the direct responsibility of the residents of Dona Ana County who have pets to get them spayed and neutered. The over-crowding and all the killing of all those puppies are the fault of those who do not spay and neuter their pets. To quote Judge Judy, "IT IS YOUR FAULT!!"
Brittanicus

La Quinta, CA

#16 Mar 26, 2011
Eventually the public will learn cheap labor from illegal immigration is not "cheap." It's subsidized by all of us in the form of our tax dollars paying for their services and makes some dirty employers very wealthy at the expense of all of us. This is highlighted by Arizona’s Governor Brewer, State Senator Pierce pushing for legal sanity, to stop illegal aliens robbing its legal population of hard come dollars. They enter across our borders or by plane or ship and having never paid even one dollar, into public funds. Immediately their children get a free education and the whole family collects free health care and medical procedures. Then any new child born to the parent are instant citizens, with free natal care, supplemented by food stamps, Medicaid, cash payments and other subsidized welfare programs. These are financially serious errors, with the compliments of early Liberal judicial involvement.

What on Earth are Liberal Czars in Washington thinking, deciding to remove the 1500 National Guards from the toxic border region? Guess its part of placing the undermanned US Border agents under considerable more strain. To me it’s illogical that the border remains unsafe for the ranchers and other landowners who are constantly in dangerous situation, because the movement of drugs and armed illegal aliens crossing their land. Since the inception of the 2006 Secure Fence Act the actual barrier is still not completed, never alone it is only one fence and not two as originally planned. It doesn't take a proverbial rocket scientist that no administration has ever intended to build a structure, which would hold back unceasing groups of foreign nationals. If they ever intended to make illegal immigration a harsh violation of immigration laws as Mexico does, it would be a felony. Simply rational to expect that these policies were never meant to be implemented, in stopping tens of millions already here. Businesses concerns feel very strongly about maintaining access to illegal immigrant jobs, and exert political pressure to prevent enforcement from being effective.

Another issue that should have been enacted is the Bush pilot program E-Verify. A new version of E-Verify has been produced, so that previous complications have been rectified, but owing to Sen. Harry Reid a nauseous Democrat, sleeping Liberal we are lucky to have this enforcement program at all. Currently its voluntary but now 156.000 businesses are using it, to purge illegal workers from the job market. Secure Communities, the 287g are other worthwhile tools that can further advance Attrition through enforcement. Radical Organizations like La Raza and La Mancha have been teaching the young to hate America. La Raza means “The Race” and their motto is “For our race everything and for all others, nothing.” The fact that we subsidize these dangerous groups, by grants from the taxpayers should be absolutely outrageous to legal Hispanics.

There is a report on Senator Harry Reids Nevada having the highest unemployment rate in the nation. Another report says they have the highest percentage of jobs being worked by illegal aliens at about10%. There is an assertion that New York City has over10% that is working illegally, including in that overall picture 70% of all illegal aliens have a job of some kind. Republican Assemblyman Tim Donnelly wants to use bill AB 26 to eliminate the estimated $11 billion spent by California to provide social services to illegal immigrants each year. Everyone assumes illegal workers are hired just to do farm work? However, they have infiltrated into construction, restaurants, hotels, casinos, department stores, janitorial, landscaping, furniture moving, carpet and tile laying, factories etc. Even trade unions have large numbers of foreign nationals. New illegal newcomers are disrupting the lifestyle of poor legal whites, blacks, Hispanics and other races here already.
Brittanicus

La Quinta, CA

#17 Mar 26, 2011
Eventually the public will learn cheap labor from illegal immigration is not "cheap." It's subsidized by all of us in the form of our tax dollars paying for their services and makes some dirty employers very wealthy at the expense of all of us. This is highlighted by Arizona’s Governor Brewer, State Senator Pierce pushing for legal sanity, to stop illegal aliens robbing its legal population of hard come dollars. They enter across our borders or by plane or ship and having never paid even one dollar, into public funds. Immediately their children get a free education and the whole family collects free health care and medical procedures. Then any new child born to the parent are instant citizens, with free natal care, supplemented by food stamps, Medicaid, cash payments and other subsidized welfare programs. These are financially serious errors, with the compliments of early Liberal judicial involvement.

What on Earth are Liberal Czars in Washington thinking, deciding to remove the 1500 National Guards from the toxic border region? Guess its part of placing the undermanned US Border agents under considerable more strain. To me it’s illogical that the border remains unsafe for the ranchers and other landowners who are constantly in dangerous situation, because the movement of drugs and armed illegal aliens crossing their land. Since the inception of the 2006 Secure Fence Act the actual barrier is still not completed, never alone it is only one fence and not two as originally planned. It doesn't take a proverbial rocket scientist that no administration has ever intended to build a structure, which would hold back unceasing groups of foreign nationals. If they ever intended to make illegal immigration a harsh violation of immigration laws as Mexico does, it would be a felony. Simply rational to expect that these policies were never meant to be implemented, in stopping tens of millions already here. Businesses concerns feel very strongly about maintaining access to illegal immigrant jobs, and exert political pressure to prevent enforcement from being effective.

Another issue that should have been enacted is the Bush pilot program E-Verify. A new version of E-Verify has been produced, so that previous complications have been rectified, but owing to Sen. Harry Reid a nauseous Democrat, sleeping Liberal we are lucky to have this enforcement program at all. Currently its voluntary but now 156.000 businesses are using it, to purge illegal workers from the job market. Secure Communities, the 287g are other worthwhile tools that can further advance Attrition through enforcement. Radical Organizations like La Raza and La Mancha have been teaching the young to hate America. La Raza means “The Race” and their motto is “For our race everything and for all others, nothing.” The fact that we subsidize these dangerous groups, by grants from the taxpayers should be absolutely outrageous to legal Hispanics.
Brittanicus

La Quinta, CA

#18 Mar 26, 2011
Trouble is that neither major party wants secure enforcement, because it would inhibit their agendas. For Democrats that means potentially more votes; while with Republicans its foremost interest is to the business opportunists who profit from cheap labor. On the other side of the coin, the Tea Party demands the border completely sealed and the laws of the 1986 Immigration Act, fully enforced. There is a. wanton refusal of the United States government for previous years to enforce our laws and borders; one can only come to the conclusion that Leftists extremist secret agreements are in affect designed to destroy U.S. sovereignty and overrun the country with cheap labor. In the last ten years to patronize Mexico, we have entered into agreements called NAFTA. In 2005 Harvard Professor George Borjas has reported that illegal aliens displaced American labor at a cost in excess of $133 billion dollars. Every one of us should seriously wonder what the costs are seven years later?

They have not only poured inferior trade items into America as with its competitor Communist China. But big business conglomerates have gone to Mexico, to pay fewer taxes and no import tariffs to the United States. In return for this poorly negotiated treaty, America has received hundreds of thousands of small farmers disrupted from their land, unable to compete with mega-agriculture. The only winners are the giant corporations like Whirlpool that exported their factory and jobs just across the border and sealing the fate of American workers. Every treaty agreement is about massive profits and import of cut price labor and export of jobs to foreign countries. Little can be done under prior or current administrations, but we have one slender chance to throw out both party members and challenge them with the growth of the Tea Party. Attention: Watch for illegal aliens voting in coming elections.

“Your DQCC Limit is Maxed!”

Since: Sep 08

In Utero (originally)

#19 Mar 26, 2011
[QUOTE who="Sound Off Caller"It really amazes me how New Mexico is broke, yet Susana Martinez can spend $63,000 on furniture.[/QUOTE]
LC Today wrote:
"It really amazes me how New Mexico is broke, yet Susana Martinez can spend $63,000 on furniture."

What amazes me is the ongoing ignorance being displayed by people like you. She had a budget allotment of over $250,000 to refurbish the Governor's Mansion, and I think she did an admirable job of keeping it in check.

Now....where was your outrage when the former moron, Richardson, bought a jet which the state did not need? I didn't hear of your amazement at that time.
You're both wrong with regard to how much Gov. Martinez spent of taxpayer money. As per the article that ran on 21MAR2011
http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-news/ci_...

"Martinez spokesman Scott Darnell reports that $26,000 was spent to refurnish the mansion, well below the $62,000 state allotment for such a task."

“Your DQCC Limit is Maxed!”

Since: Sep 08

In Utero (originally)

#20 Mar 26, 2011
Sound Off Caller wrote:
It really amazes me how New Mexico is broke, yet Susana Martinez can spend $63,000 on furniture.
LC Today wrote:
"It really amazes me how New Mexico is broke, yet Susana Martinez can spend $63,000 on furniture."

What amazes me is the ongoing ignorance being displayed by people like you. She had a budget allotment of over $250,000 to refurbish the Governor's Mansion, and I think she did an admirable job of keeping it in check.

Now....where was your outrage when the former moron, Richardson, bought a jet which the state did not need? I didn't hear of your amazement at that time.
You're both wrong with regard to how much Gov. Martinez spent of taxpayer money. As per the article that ran on 21MAR2011
http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-news/ci_...

"Martinez spokesman Scott Darnell reports that $26,000 was spent to refurnish the mansion, well below the $62,000 state allotment for such a task."

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