Former West counselor to face judge i...

Former West counselor to face judge in U.P.

There are 67 comments on the Grand Blanc News story from Sep 5, 2007, titled Former West counselor to face judge in U.P.. In it, Grand Blanc News reports that:

Former Grand Blanc West Middle School counselor Arthur McGuff, 47, is scheduled to be arraigned in Keweenaw County's 12th Circuit Court on Tuesday on charges stemming from a June 29 arrest in Copper Harbor in ... via Grand Blanc News

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1st amendment

United States

#22 Mar 5, 2008
This is for all the people, "who know". Everything you have stated is a crock! I know every single tortuous moment, including being in the car last summer, and the harassment at ATM's Grand Blanc job. I have been right there with Jennifer and listened to it all. I am so angry for her and she won't get on here and tell you all the REAL truth because she actually lives her life without pointing at anyone. She moves on and doesn't focus on you negative losers.
Good for all you "knowers"! That is said in the sincerest sense, because we all create our own reality. What a sad life you all "must knowers" must lead. Julie Morley, Bob & Linnae Sauvolas, Rodriquezs and Shues are extremely transparent. But, before I go on one thing must be said. YOU ALL NEED TO GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!! If Art and Jennifer (and whoever else you pool them with) are such a menace, then why are you wasting time on them?! All your lives must be miserable.
A couple of years ago (all the boys were in Middle School)Art McGuff's son went to stay at Julie Morley's house and several other boys were there. Just to let you know, Nathan Sauvola went that night. Yes, the "moral police" Sauvolas sent their son to Julie's house. Linnae had several negative things about Julie, but sent her son there anyway.
Linnae Sauvola is so concerned about her children and other children that she sends her beautiful, "BIG MAC" son down to awoman who she said "has no control over her son, Ryan....Ryan is such a mean, bad kid...Julie Morley doesn't watch her son or any of the boys who stay overnight".
1st amendment

United States

#23 Mar 5, 2008
Just stop wrote:
Stop making posts on here trying to make yourself look good. Anyone who has been around you knows what you are like and how you treat your children AND how you were as a coach!
for the person who wrote "I also have been here every day with art since he got out of jail"
I feel sorry for you!
And I feel sorry for his children. Please don't tell me he has changed in two months but I do hope for the childrens sake he does become a better person some day.
This is for all the people, "who know". Everything you have stated is a crock! I know every single tortuous moment, including being in the car last summer, and the harassment at ATM's Grand Blanc job. I have been right there with Jennifer and listened to it all. I am so angry for her and she won't get on here and tell you all the REAL truth because she actually lives her life without pointing at anyone. She moves on and doesn't focus on you negative losers.
Good for all you "knowers"! That is said in the sincerest sense, because we all create our own reality. What a sad life you all "must knowers" must lead. Julie Morley, Bob & Linnae Sauvolas, Rodriquezs and Shues are extremely transparent. But, before I go on one thing must be said. YOU ALL NEED TO GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!! If Art and Jennifer (and whoever else you pool them with) are such a menace, then why are you wasting time on them?! All your lives must be miserable.
A couple of years ago (all the boys were in Middle School)Art McGuff's son went to stay at Julie Morley's house and several other boys were there. Just to let you know, Nathan Sauvola went that night. Yes, the "moral police" Sauvolas sent their son to Julie's house. Linnae had several negative things about Julie, but sent her son there anyway.
Linnae Sauvola is so concerned about her children and other children that she sends her beautiful, "BIG MAC" son down to awoman who she said "has no control over her son, Ryan....Ryan is such a mean, bad kid...Julie Morley doesn't watch her son or any of the boys who stay overnight".
enlightened and fed up

United States

#24 Mar 5, 2008
This is for all the people, "who know". Everything you have stated is a crock! I know every single tortuous moment, including being in the car last summer, and the harassment at ATM's Grand Blanc job. I have been right there with Jennifer and listened to it all. I am so angry for her and she won't get on here and tell you all the REAL truth because she actually lives her life without pointing at anyone. She moves on and doesn't focus on you negative losers.
Good for all you "knowers"! That is said in the sincerest sense, because we all create our own reality. What a sad life you all "must knowers" must lead. Julie Morley, Bob & Linnae Sauvolas, Rodriquezs and Shues are extremely transparent. But, before I go on one thing must be said. YOU ALL NEED TO GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!! If Art and Jennifer (and whoever else you pool them with) are such a menace, then why are you wasting time on them?! All your lives must be miserable.
A couple of years ago (all the boys were in Middle School)Art McGuff's son went to stay at Julie Morley's house and several other boys were there. Just to let you know, Nathan Sauvola went that night. Yes, the "moral police" Sauvolas sent their son to Julie's house. Linnae had several negative things about Julie, but sent her son there anyway.
Linnae Sauvola is so concerned about her children and other children that she sends her beautiful, "BIG MAC" son down to awoman who she said "has no control over her son, Ryan....Ryan is such a mean, bad kid...Julie Morley doesn't watch her son or any of the boys who stay overnight".
enlightened and fed up

United States

#25 Mar 5, 2008
Julie Morley came to the McGuffs. Jennifer McGuff answered the door 12:30 am and Linnae Sauvola walked over and witnessed the whole thing. Julie kept banging and ringing the doorbell. She woke Jennifer's baby girls. So concerned about children, but she scares to death, Hayley and Grace, 1 1/2 and 2 1/2 at the time. While Jen was holding Hayley, Julie did not introduce herself, but just laid into her and cursed liked a truck driver.(Jen writes in a journal and read that night to me.) Julie used b--ch, f--k at least 5 times and d--k several times.
Jen still has not met Julie on a formal basis to this day. Julie has a coloful language repertoire. Julie yelled that her son was not welcome at the McGuffs anymore. Jen completely agreed.
Two days later Ryan was playing basketball in the McGuff's driveway. Jen asked Ryan to leave and used not one swear word. Ryan rode away and flipped her off. Nice son, Julie. Must be just like his father. I know for a fact that Ryan's dad has been in legal trouble. Excellent job picking your men. You have bragged about how talented Ryan is, Julie. So many games I sat right behind you and listend to your puke mouth. He definitely has made records...for the most interceptions in a season. Nice!

What an upstanding citizen Ryan has been and you. The e-mail you sent never mentioned the swearing you did to Jen, but stated that you were a GB graduate.(Jen showed me the emails sent to GB. All of them sent within hours of Linnae and Bob Sauvola How embarassing for the GB schools. what a great representative for their schools. You have no back bone because all you listen to is psycho Linnae who has said terrible things about you. You pick great friends.
Bob Sauvola got into Mason McGuff's face last summer and blatantly acussed him of buttering his car. No proof. No pictures. The Sauvolas are so concerned about children that they go around accussing kids of things they didn't do. Let's take some inventory. Mason is a 4.0 student and Nathan has a discipline file an inch thick at GB schools. Nathan called a local black boy a "n----r" when he got angry. Their college daughter (psychology major-nice pick) watched the McGuff girls and had her boyfriend at the McGuff house when they came home. You didn't have permission Nea! You are a fool as well. Your mother told Jennifer the nastiest things to about your boyfriend Andy.
I remember the funniest story Jen told me. The best was that "he was so spoiled and had a nice car given to him by his parents". A week later their college daughter was given a brand new car, A CADILLAC! Her parents gave it to her. They told Jen about it right in their driveway. I guess Nea is going to need some nice things since a psychology major is a joke.
fed up2

United States

#26 Mar 5, 2008
Julie Morley came to the McGuffs. Jennifer McGuff answered the door 12:30 am and Linnae Sauvola walked over and witnessed the whole thing. Julie kept banging and ringing the doorbell. She woke Jennifer's baby girls. So concerned about children, but she scares to death, Hayley and Grace, 1 1/2 and 2 1/2 at the time. While Jen was holding Hayley, Julie did not introduce herself, but just laid into her and cursed liked a truck driver.(Jen writes in a journal and read that night to me.) Julie used b--ch, f--k at least 5 times and d--k several times.
Jen still has not met Julie on a formal basis to this day. Julie has a coloful language repertoire. Julie yelled that her son was not welcome at the McGuffs anymore. Jen completely agreed.
Two days later Ryan was playing basketball in the McGuff's driveway. Jen asked Ryan to leave and used not one swear word. Ryan rode away and flipped her off. Nice son, Julie. Must be just like his father. I know for a fact that Ryan's dad has been in legal trouble. Excellent job picking your men. You have bragged about how talented Ryan is, Julie. So many games I sat right behind you and listend to your puke mouth. He definitely has made records...for the most interceptions in a season. Nice!
What an upstanding citizen Ryan has been and you. The e-mail you sent never mentioned the swearing you did to Jen, but stated that you were a GB graduate.(Jen showed me the emails sent to GB. All of them sent within hours of Linnae and Bob Sauvola How embarassing for the GB schools. what a great representative for their schools. You have no back bone because all you listen to is psycho Linnae who has said terrible things about you. You pick great friends.
Bob Sauvola got into Mason McGuff's face last summer and blatantly acussed him of buttering his car. No proof. No pictures. The Sauvolas are so concerned about children that they go around accussing kids of things they didn't do. Let's take some inventory. Mason is a 4.0 student and Nathan has a discipline file an inch thick at GB schools. Nathan called a local black boy a "n----r" when he got angry. Their college daughter (psychology major-nice pick) watched the McGuff girls and had her boyfriend at the McGuff house when they came home. You didn't have permission Nea! You are a fool as well. Your mother told Jennifer the nastiest things to about your boyfriend Andy.
I remember the funniest story Jen told me. The best was that "he was so spoiled and had a nice car given to him by his parents". A week later their college daughter was given a brand new car, A CADILLAC! Her parents gave it to her. They told Jen about it right in their driveway. I guess Nea is going to need some nice things since a psychology major is a joke.
fed up2

United States

#27 Mar 5, 2008
Linnae Sauvola had called the prosecutor on a daily, at least a weekly basis since October 2007 to bash Art. Produce the pictures you have that show anyone at the McGuff's doing anything to your house, you losers! Linnae and Bob Sauvola also tried to prosecute Jen and the charges were dropped.
It has also been proven that Linnae Sauvola called Carman Ainsworth HS to bash Jen. She voluntarily left that job and left Mason and Jazz with family friends because these people offered since the kids wanted to finish school at GB. No one abandoned anyone.
Bob Sauvola needs to show pictures of people egging his house or shut the hell up. You and your big bootie wife were run out of your last neigborhood and who would be surprised that you would not be liked here. Get a life you dickless wonder! Any woman, any day could kick your butt. Now, your wife is another matter. Too much in the caboose......
Linnae Sauvola is a BULLY!!! She has taught her son, Nathan well and the rest of her family. Really something to be proud of.
Bob has a camera shooting right into the neighbors windows. Into their toddlers' bedroom window. He loves computers so he must love little kids because that is all he gets pictures of. I don't blame him because who would want to be with Linnae Sauvola. What a gorgeous, huge butt UPer you must have to be with. All though I think Bob doesn't have anything remotely male between his legs.
The Neighborhood

United States

#28 Mar 7, 2008
Well, to everyone who has posted on the website. You have no doubt heard what this man has done. But I tell you that it is not as it seems. The people who constantly are after Mr. McGuff are sick and twisted people. The Morely's and Sauvola's. The have brought about an epidemic, with their lies. They caused this man to lose his job. Now they want him to lose the last ounce of respect that he may have.
These people are evil, you may not see it at first glance but there is more than appearence. I don't know what has provoted them to waste their time and energy to persecute Mr. McGuff, even though he has done nothing wrong to them in any way.
He made a mistake, haven't we all. I know that I have and I know that the families persecuting Mr. McGuff have. I am not here to say their wrongs are worse than those of Mr. McGuff. But they are not perfect, in a definition of the word. They feed of the displeasure of others. Once hated enemies, know the Sauvola's and Morely's have come together of this.
The have no moral what so ever of their actions and they will continue to do it until someone takes a stand about this and I pray for those who accidentally cross their paths for once they have you in their sights. They plan to not stop until you have been uterly humiliated and destroyed.
So now, I welcome you to the neighborhood and may god guide you away from them.
Sauvola Morley UGH

Southfield, MI

#29 Mar 11, 2008
We moved in the Maple Pointe Subdivision and one of the first families to invite us over were the McGuff's. Well actually the ONLY family. Many say "hi" as we walk the neighborhood, but they actually talked to us and back then had nothing but great things to say about their neighbors. In those days the Sauvola's lived in Williamsburg Farms in Grand Blanc Township and yes Julie Morley was here. Our first run in was with Ms. Morley and her lovely son Ryan. He blamed my son of something he did not do, but it was naturally to cover his butt.
Many things happen in the neighborhood and funny thing is they happen when boys stay at the Morley's or the Sauvola's, not the other boys homes and the McGuff's are very diligent about checking on the boys several times a night.
When the Sauvola's bought the house next to the McGuff's the neighborhood started having trouble. Finger pointing, ill feelings and many other things came about due to Linnae Sauvola being incapable of believing that her son was such a horrible kid and a BULLY.
He was always in trouble in sixth and seventh grades for bullying. He said that when he would talk to the Sauvola's that Bob Sauvola was trying to agree with him at times, but Linnae was like a bull dog and said the school is out of their minds and Nathan is the VICTIM.
Last summer before the incident up north Art says that Bob Sauvola was quite the character. He told me stories where Bob tried to intimidate Jen, his wife and actually accused his son of damaging his things when there was no parent around. We have had Art's son over and he is the nicest boy we have ever met, not a cruel bone in his body. The ironic thing is that Art has raised this boy since a young age because his Bio-Mom died of cancer years ago...how low can you swoop Linnae...that is cruel and your whole complaint when we went to the board with thirteen other parents the next meeting after your family appeared ALONE was that "YOU" did not want these kids hurt and yet you dug at a wound that has taken years to heal....nicely done....what a bitch?
Did Art screw up this summer, yes, read his blog, he admits it. Have any of you writing or reading not screwed up in life. Would he do that day over, yes, just see what he is doing to make it right....he attends NA meetings, goes to the Salvation Army to speak to young inmates, the Genesee County jail to speak to inmates, to New Paths treatment center and he does all this for free....for his benefit, but to also tell the story of how he fell down, but HE GOT UP, as he always does....
Julie Morley, Linnae Sauvola, Laura Wirth, Theresa Shue and Kellie Rodriguez all have their own problems, but you do not see Art bashing them do you....and now he can he has no moral or professional or ethical obligation to remain silent....the Flint Journal and Grand Blanc News has contacted him and he has REFUSED to speak with them on the record to protect these monsters kids....he has details of all their lives, but he was told in private, not as a counselor or as a professional, but as a neighbor....
So, Bob and Linnae Sauvola and Julie Morley and Kellie Rodriguez, Theresa Shue and Laura Wirth, take a good look in the mirror and judge the person you need to - yourselves.
Art, thank you for all you have done for my son and the other athletes and students you have touched with your gentleness and kindness.....my son owes you his life, he was once suicidal and YOU took your time to come and talk to him while these two parents kids teased him and almost caused him to act on his feelings and sadness.
We love you and your family, stay strong and keep your chin up.
a HONEST PERSON

United States

#30 Mar 16, 2008
hey "someone who knows" is this Sauvola or Morley? jw sounds like one of you two.

You know what maybe you should watch out for your kids like Mr.McGuff has been doing for every year that he has been here. I hope it's still easy for you to type insults about him when you should be looking at your own kids/family?
a HONEST PERSON

United States

#31 Mar 16, 2008
someone who knows wrote:
What do I mean by "menace"? I mean that his children are verbally abused by Art on a daily basis. Expletives fly from that household to be heard throughout an entire block. Neighbors and their children hear this colorful language. He has been heard telling his son to go in the house so he could beat his f***ing a**. I believe this to be over a water hose left trickling. Heresay - but I understand it to be true. The children that Art says he loves to work with and mold - that is a load of crap. When is it ever positive reinforcement to scream at team players, throw them to the ground, make teammates attack one another over a botched play, etc?
If it is true that you are in recovery, Art - then more power to you. I myself believe in the power of a recovery program and I also believe in 2nd chances. Trust me, I never hoped for you to fail when you got out of jail. But, recently activity would prove that you have learned nothing from time spent. I know that you continue to intimidate those who you feel crossed you.
Be a man and stop pointing fingers at neighbors, Grand Blanc administration or anyone else who is not in line with your thinking. When you are pointing one finger at another person - remember that there are 4 fingers pointing right back at you.
Maybe you all know a different Art than I do. And to be truly honest, I've never spoken one word to this man. I wouldn't dare. I have found him to be vile, profane, vicious, cruel, vindictive and hateful. I don't associate with people like that. Don't blame anyone else for your poor choices, Art.
If you truly believe that you are on a path to enlightenment and forgiveness, you would also know that no-one is to blame but YOU.
I get no glee from watching your family go through these trials. I feel absolutely horrible for your children. I know that the teens are great kids who deserve better than what they've been given.
Personally, none of this is my business, but it really irritates me to see championing of a person who has made it a priority to intimidate those he dislikes and blames. The people that Art refers to as his "lovely neighbors" are just that - lovely people. They provide a loving, stable home life for their children. Art, I don't believe anyone who pays taxes in that neighborhood deserves to hear your loud mouth screaming at your children every single day.
And as far as providing my true name - no way! Then I would be the target of nails in my tires, eggs on my house, roofing nails in my driveway, profane banners facing my house, etc. The list is quite long and colorful, isn't it, Art?
Hey someone who knows
your running your mouth again I see
Art used to be that person, but he never harmed his children
but I see that you don't talk to him so you wouldn't know that he has changed
if this is Morley I wonder what every one thinks about you after your "colorful language" display at his house after the guys went ding dong ditching while sleeping over at YOUR house?

and "attacking teammates"? uh thats football hunni sorry to tell you if your sissy son isn't tough enough. they were doing a football exercise.EVERYONE has to do it to help them with blocking skills

NOw I see that this is Sauvola
Art never did anything to your house
knowing your son I'm guessing that it was him and his friends or some of the other people who don't exactly care for you

YOU create WHAT kind of home? what where they have NO responsibilities? where they can help their dad clean his stupid cars every day?
a HONEST PERSON Jz

United States

#32 Mar 16, 2008
Thanks to all the people who LOVE ATM and Support him even though he messed up.

Stop pointing fingers to the others. it's not like you've never messed up. Put yourself in his shoes. Until you see what I see I'll pray for you and hope that that will be enough for you to see.
Life is too short

United States

#33 Mar 27, 2008
This neighborhood sounds like a place that many would never want to live!! I personally met the man, in 2003 as he took a job in our school district. He has always been a man to go the "extra mile" for kids and families, especially those that had their backs against the wall financially, emotionally or spiritually. He would "step up" and take the lead and seldom be out of place in places most of us would never even want to be...there have been times where Art has told me he did not think before he acted (and regretted it), but he always had good intentions in mind, be it for kids, parents or the community. Yes, he can be brash and often opinionated, but he would give you the shirt off his back or come to your need in a seconds notice...I have seen him do it over and over again without expecting anything in return.
I have gone with Art to many sporting events all over this state for years and years now. We talk about everything, but seldom does he mention these people in his neighborhood. I have known he has had many issues to tend to this past year or more, but he always tries to stay positive despite the trials or awkward moments that arise. He speaks of these people with humility in the sense that he understands that they are imperfect people, as he states he is too, and that they point fingers at him because as he states it best "they can". I, by now, would have physically hurt the close neighbors for the things they have said, accused him of and done to him and his family. I have seen their kids hundreds of hours in sports and classes and they have many issues of their own, they are far from perfect.
I respect Art and I feel really bad for him. We have recently spoke since he returned to Grand Blanc and he has changed so much. He told me the whole story, its been a long, hard ride and he refuses to back down and remains standing tall, but humble, much more humble. He appreciates the place he is and where he has been. He has more passion for life than most of us ever dreamed of having. He is more giving than ever. He is a better man because of all this and no one has even taken the time find out who or what he now is...people just continue to run to judge, accuse and try to destroy his reputation.
So, to all those who rush to judge and bash him...you write and base your opinions on opinions, or rumors, or something or someone you knew twenty-five plus years ago...and you say you are all right with that...we lost a great coach, a great child advocate, a great guidance counselor, a great teacher of young men and soon a great neighbor. If your luck works out maybe a person of ill-repent will move into your neighborhood and terrorize all of you and your kids??
Life is too short and you all need to get a life...take the cameras down, live life and try, oh try to be decent people towards others.
Our Brother

Farmington, MI

#34 Mar 29, 2008
Art has been in our local support groups for the past nine plus months. In that time he has taken a leadership role and a mentor role. Many younger addicts are made to feel welcomed by his hospitality and his way with words. He judges none and approaches them with open arms and the compassion of a spiritual man. His heart is blessed and he is a strong advocate for those who are down on their luck. He speaks of his tribulations as if they are challenges and he approaches them as if these problems were laid in his path to test his faith.
I read these blogs and wonder if the people who are very negative towards Art even know this man any longer?? Have they ever known him? There experience is based on selective incidents it appears or maybe there is ONE person that is the feeder of this poisonous venom.
It is such a shame that we have people in the world who have experienced hardship and then their fellow man feels the need to beat them when they are down?? Does it make them feel better, do they gain more control over their surroundings, what are their motives? Have they always been this evil and lack this much compassion, and finally do they have children that they are teaching this behavior to?
I recently stopped by the McGuff home after a meeting with a young man in a mental hospital. Art volunteered to go meet with this young man and even asked him to sign a release to speak with his therapist in a wrap around capacity. The man that you criticize and call a menace, a bully, a vindictive person, took "his time" to reach out to a kid who is suffering and is suicidal. He spent hours in the ER talking to this kid and his case worker as well as the social worker in the hospital because he cared. There was no headlines, no pay for services, no nothing, just love for his fellow man. I know people he worked with in the schools and mental health fields, they all say he has always been like this, so I am dumbfounded? Why do we have to film this man and his children? Closed circuit TV cameras in the windows pointing at his home running 24/7?
I think the world of Art. He helps people in treatment centers, housing facilities for the homeless, 3/4 houses and the jails each and every week and does it for fun, for love and for these kids and guys incarcerated. So, I ask you all what do you do for your community? Well we know that you all like to bully, beat up and accuse people "based" on heresay, rumors and opinions of people who are found to be less than competent most of the time?
I agree with the last blog, life is too short......lights, camera, action.....get a life!
Let the man rebuild his life and take care of your shadows that lurk in the dark. Stay in the light my friend, evil grows in the dark.
Art McGuff

Southfield, MI

#37 Apr 3, 2008
I am amused by those who are challenged in their ability to own their commentary of others, both good and bad. In a society where we are such great judges of others and seldom look at ourself honestly and with any humility.

What I can say is this...I have learned a lot about people in Grand Blanc, the school system and yet I have faith that what I have learned is not how ALL Grand Blanc people are...I am not that naive.

The creation of this electronic media outlet has given people with less than character and I mean character defects a place to write, judge, decide and determine what they feel, believe or hear a person is. They even state it in these blogs, that they have never met someone, or ever talked to them, but they are secure in their opinion to attempt to demean any person. They never question their sources, but some have in these blogs??

I will continue to pray for you all. I know you all want to be better people and this is so easy to be nefarious in nature. I have let my family down in the past year and for that I am truly sorry. I am working on putting my life back together and that is no ones fault, but my own. I have attempted to help myself become a better person by seeking help, admitting my wrongs and trying my best when I read this stuff NOT to lash back at these people with less than perfect character. This I have done fighting my old self each and every day I happen to look at this stuff. I know this - these people with less than character are "defects" looking for character - as I am. We all are - Defects looking for character.

So, do what you must. I will move on and once in awhile I read about myself, not in the manner I desire, but it makes me humble, get honest and take a good hard look at where I have been and where I am going. I pray that someday some of you all will join me in that pursuit - self improvement - and you, as well as me, will hear that small soft voice talk to you in your daily actions and your lives.

God Bless you all, my brothers and I in the Flint Area Support Groups will keep you all in our prayers. The pastor at The Point Church last week said, "that if you have no problems, no enemies or no issues in your daily walk as a Christian, then you are NOT a true Christian", remember they crucified Christ and he told us if we choose to follow him, we too shall suffer...I am at peace with that fact. What is impossible in men, is possible in God.
a HONEST PERSON Jz

Southfield, MI

#38 Apr 3, 2008
ding dong wrote:
This shit is a f'n lie. Art needs to stop smoking crack and get a life.
hey nathan or is this ryan?
what you made up that club in someones year book
For Us Cool Kids right?
how can someone "cool" beat down on someone? ur mommy thinks your a "victim"- is that why you pick on small children? because they are the "Bully?"
a HONEST PERSON Jz

Southfield, MI

#39 Apr 3, 2008
ButFuck wrote:
art i think u need to grow a bigger dick a get that crack out of ur ass but let mason sniff it out of your ass. f'n doosh eater
WOW real tough guy in the HOUSE huh?
I bet people have plenty to say about you, but no1 says it cause the police will be called wont they?
a HONEST PERSON Jz

Southfield, MI

#40 Apr 9, 2008
upscout wrote:
Has Mr. McGuff pleaded guilty/not guilty? Has he been sentenced?
Just wondering here in the UP. Followed the story from this summer.
here is some advise
GET A LIFE
Jazzmin

Southfield, MI

#41 Apr 9, 2008
well seeing this is SAD. the people who don't have enough of a life so they decide to blame others.

If you support my dad:
Thanks
your are absolutely a good person
Shue

United States

#42 Apr 20, 2008
I would appreciate my name not being brought into this mess. I don't speak to McGuff, I don't like him - but I don't campaign against him either.

I have 4 young children and I don't appreciate them hearing Art out in his yard with his filthy language. I think my kids should be able to play outside without asking me what these "words" mean.

I don't want my name brought into this - I have nothing to do with it. I am just trying to raise my children.
Shue ly Knows

United States

#43 Apr 20, 2008
WHAT A HYPOCRITE SHUE IS!!! Your name needs to be brought into this because you chose to bring yourself in this Shue. I know for a FACT that Shue sent an email to Grand Blanc Schools (and to the School Board) in May 2005 right along with Linnae and Bob Sauvola, Laura Wirth, Kellie Rodriguez and Julie Morley. Mr. McGuff should not have been swearing or had threatening language. Not acceptable. Everyone around here has become the moral police. If the Shues are keeping to themselves, raising their kids, and so moral then why have so many people in their subdivision complained about the Shue's special needs children running in the streets on a constant basis. Their special kids running after balls, toys and cars having to "screetch" their brakes to stop inches from hitting their little children. Ms. Shue has been heard on many occasions yelling at her children outside and be heard from inside her house. Ms. Shue yells outside the most when her kids run in the street. Ms. Shue came over to Mr. and Mrs. McGuff's house a year ago and accused Mr. McGuff of calling the police concerning their trailers. They have them parked in their yards for extended periods of time for many years. A huge eye sore in the neighborhood. What's funny is that Mr. and Mrs. McGuff never called. Ms. Shue came over to yell, swear and point the finger and tell them they did it. Ms. Shue just assumed the McGuffs had called. They should have. YOU TRAILERS WERE ILLEGALLY PARKED! Why go over and say anything. Oh, that's right, Ms. Shue had to chew Mrs. McGuff out over her trash and supposedly the McGuff's dog did it. Mrs. McGuff apologized, but that was not enough. Mrs. McGuff saw no trash at the Shues, yet still offered to help pick anything up. Well, I guess McGuff's dog was getting back at the Shue's after having to listen to their little dog's constant,chronic yipping!
Nothing has been said from Mr. McGuff since Spring 2005 and if anyone says it has, then they are LIARS. No one came to talk with him. He never verbally threatened to physically hurt anyone despite Ms. Shue writing in her email that her and her husband were afraid of him hurting them. Ms. Shue, get over yourself and look in the mirror. You and your husband have talked to Mr. McGuff this past year like nothing has happened. You and your husband referring to him by name (Art). Comments like, "Oh my God Art, is that you?" (Mr. Shue) and "That's a losing battle, Art." (Ms. Shue, while Mr. McGuff was shoveling snow). If Ms. Shue so wants to be out of this then we are you even talking to Mr. McGuff?! You are both full of crap. Get over yourself Ms. Shue! Have yourself another cigarette. Give yourself another wrinkle. Give your family some lung cancer with your lethal second hand smoke (by your choice.) All of this will shorten your life and theirs, so we don't have to listen to your hypocrisy and absolute crap.

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