Jeffs in custody

Fugitive FLDS leader Warren Steed Jeffs, 50, was taken into custody late Monday after being pulled over by a Nevada Highway Patrol trooper on Interstate 15 north of Las Vegas, according to the FBI.

[patti]

GOOD LOCK THE FREAK UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY ALONG WITH THE REST OF THEM IN PRINGLE WE DONT WANT THEM OR NEED THE IN OUR STATE.

[Brent Hartman]

Hey, that's just what the mobs in Missouri said about the Mormons in the days of Joseph Smith. Maybe you could round up some like-minded folks, and go kill their women and children. That might make them leave. It worked in Missouri!:)

[zwrites]

This is not about polygamy. This is about an evil man trying to control the children in his midst. The young girls...as young as 13yrs old promised to men old enough to be their fathers or older. Than teenage boys throw out of the sect for showing interest in a girls their age?? I know what he did is not favored in the Mormon world. No one wants to kill the women and children. It's former victims of this sect that have spoken out against him. That's how the world came to know what was happening.

[Brent Hartman]

This is not about polygamy? Then perhaps you could point to one news article about Warren Jeffs that doesn't inlude a polygamy reference. Monogamist marry underage girls, with the consent of parents, all the time. Have any of them made it to the FBI's top ten list?

[zwrites]

Many people that have harmed children are on the FBI list. People feel like victims for different reasons. How did you explain the running off of young male members of the group? Do all the polygamist of the world do that? No...it does not happen that way. I don't think underage girls should marry...whether it is in a mongamist or polgamious situation. Why did the mormons stop polygamy? There is a reason people change their beliefs. I personally have nothing against people wanting a plural marriage but I feel children should be treated as children....no matter what the situation is. But, polygamists need to know it's not the norm in America, so they will be viewd as different.

[The_Nephite]

Warren Steed Jeffs does follow the paths of the great Old Testament forefathers and prophets, of the old Mormonism (Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and John Taylor).

[jennie]

The_Nephite wrote:

Warren Steed Jeffs does follow the paths of the great Old Testament forefathers and prophets, of the old Mormonism (Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and John Taylor).

The prophets of the Old Testament and of the latter-days were called of God to have more than one wife. It is a sacred calling, not one that just anybody can take upon himself.

[The_Nephite]

Jennie,
I believe that Warren Jeffs has his calling, as far as John Taylor had before him, for example.
Respectfully,
[e-mail]

[molluscum contagiosum]

I believe in Nixon.

Do you?

[zion]

Mormons havent totally given up polygamy-there are still colonies of the right outside Salt Lake City.

FYI

[sister in hawaii]

Aloha! Just wanted to clarify, this "mormon" man arrested is not a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. It's confusing, but he is a member/self-proclaimed leader of his own, made-up religion. Anyone practicing polygamy is immediately excommunicated. It is against the law! and the real mormons are law-abiding citizens.

[Hannah Rebekah]

zion wrote:

Mormons havent totally given up polygamy-there are still colonies of the right outside Salt Lake City.
FYI

Yes, Mormons have given up polygamy at least the main Church. These colonies right outside of Salt Lake City or anywhere else for that matter are not members of our Church but their own made up Church. And just to set the record straight there are now Christians who are now practicing polygamy and they have been on the 700 club. Funny how they claim it is not Mormon polygamy.

Christian Polygamy

Websites:

TruthBearer.org Continuing the Reformation….
http://www.truthbearer.org/
Organization for Christian Polygamy
Polygamy is in the Bible. Polygamy is found throughout history. These facts prove that marriage's definition includes plural marriage. Polygyny is a far older traditional marriage than anti-polygamy.

TruthBearer.org
http://www.truthbearer.com/products/tapes/t-3...
700 Club / CBN Interviews Founder for first report with Christian Polygamy (06/28/05)
…the quotes on this tape provide a powerful way to help evangelical conservative Christians undertand the mistake of anti-polygamy…
Polygamy has a range of defenders, including evangelical Christians. Mark Henkel is founder of the Christian polygamy organization, TruthBearer.org . He says Christian polygamists believe husbands are called to love their wives, as Christ loved the churches, according to Scripture.

ChristianPolygamy.com
http://www.christianpolygamy.com/
CHRISTIAN POLYGAMY IS LEGAL! You heard it right! Christian Polygamy is legal! You can have many wives in Christian Polygamy simply by marrying one at a time in the traditional manner. You get a marriage license, and then civilly marry her. You then civilly divorce her. You then get another marriage license for the next wife, and then civilly marry her. You then civilly divorce her. You then continue to do this with each additional wife. If you do not provide any of these civilly divorced wives with a Bill of Divorcement, which is required by the Bible to be divorced, then the "civil" divorce will have no affect on your marital status. You will still be married according to the Bible to each of these wives. You will have had a public ceremony and celebration. And although the civil authorities will not consider you married, you will be married to each of them according to the Bible and therefore according to God. This is the way of Christian Polygamy. It should be the way of all marriages.

Christian Polygamy INFO
http://www.christianpolygamy.info/movement/
The Christian Polygamy "Movement"
The coming together of conservative, evanglical, Scripture-based Christians, from so many different denominational backgrounds, has formed into a real social "movement", unto now directly seeking to bring the Scriptural truth of Christian Polygamy to the Churches.
It is profoundly significant that this is mostly all with and by conservative Christians.(Christian Polygamy is not Mormon Polygamy.) That is, because of this significant fact that this is with and by conservative Christians, Christian Polygamy can not be dismissed as if merely libertine or as if only a matter of "tolerance" dogma of liberal denominations of Christianity. Indeed, that significant fact demonstrates the genuine reality that Christian Polygamy is clearly only a matter of believing the Scriptures, believing what the Scriptures actually say and have always actually said...
And that's why and how Christian Polygamy has become a growing and unstoppable social "movement" indeed

[Hannah Rebekah]

continued:

LoveNotForce.com
http://www.lovenotforce.com/
The Standard of Christian Polygamy

Polygamypage.info
http://www.samchapman.talktalk.net/polygamy.h...
Here you can find the net's most comprehensive resource for the study of polygamy, including
Legal study
Academic research
& Christian debate on polygamy, bigamy and related matters.
Facebook social network for "Christians Open to Polygamy".
"Big Love" - HBO's series about a modern polygamous family

Pro-Polygamy.com
http://www.pro-polygamy.com/articles.php...
Helping the Media & Information-gatherers by providing
news, reports, and insights from the pro-polygamy view.
July 4, 2004 - Christian Polygamy 'Movement' is 10 Years Old

Polygamy.com
http://www.polygamy.com/articles/templates/...
The Hypocrisy of Monogamy: Divorce & Adultery Versus Polygamy

BiblicalPolygamy.com
http://www.biblicalpolygamy.com/
A resource for proving that Polygamy really IS Biblical.
The purpose and outline of this web-site are simple:
As based only on the Bible, to provide
* the Exegesis / Argumentation Proofs in the Bible,
* the list of all the Polygamists in the Bible,
* and the examples where The Lord Himself is self-described in polygamous terms in the Bible

Bible Polygamy
http://www.biblepolygamy.com/index.htm
The Bible contains many accounts of Christian polygyny marriages. The Lord blessed and used Bible polygyny for His own purposes and glory. God does not condemn polygyny, never calls it adultery, wickedness or a fleshly perversion and Christians must accept God's Word on this subject not man's opinions based on a few distorted, out of context Scriptures.

Books:

Presbyterian Minister William E Phipps wrote a book entitled "Was Jesus Married?" (NY Harper & Row, 1970). He concluded that Jesus WAS married.

[zion]

Polygamy is polygamy. Add all the luster it needs but it is not an accepted tradition in our society.

[zion]

"Aloha! Just wanted to clarify, this "mormon" man arrested is not a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. It's confusing, but he is a member/self-proclaimed leader of his own, made-up religion. Anyone practicing polygamy is immediately excommunicated. It is against the law! and the real mormons are law-abiding citizens."

The real mormons have practiced polygamy as part of the original religion since the days of Joseph Smith. To say that it is a "calling" is like saying that Jeffrey Dahmer had a calling.

[Emilysmom]

zion wrote:

Mormons havent totally given up polygamy-there are still colonies of the right outside Salt Lake City.
FYI

Then they should be excommunicated.

[Emilysmom]

The_Nephite wrote:

Warren Steed Jeffs does follow the paths of the great Old Testament forefathers and prophets, of the old Mormonism (Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and John Taylor).

He illegally married underage girls.
That's not a calling that is child molestation.
It's also illegal and goes against God's Commandment to obey the law of the land.

[Robert Fields]

A U.S. court rejected the testimony of the teenage brides you think Joseph Smith was guilty of marrying. Not a single scholar who cites from the Temple lot case which exonerated Joseph Smith of guilt for polygamy. Remember they were not teenage brides when they made their charges, but full grown adult women.

One of them Melissa Lott Willis may have perjured herself in the case. She told Joseph Smith 3rd that nothing sexual had happened between Joseph in the mansion house. Though she told him that she had a sexual relation ship with his Father. He asked her where the sex happened? She told him "nothing ever went on in the Mansion house, or in the old house." (Temple Lot case pg. 489) Yet in the same case via affidavit she claimed to give the room number in Smiths home where she spent the night with him. The book Religion and Sexuality: The Shakers is online to read. Pg. 310 Note 104 is my source for her August 3, 1893 Affidavit.

I am like Joseph Smith 3rd on this. She was likely sealed to Joseph Smith for eternity only. She understood that the time wording she said had no value for time. But in the LDS leaders zeal to prove Joseph Smith a polygamist put pressure on her to claim to be Joseph Smiths earthly wife. Since they wanted her to claim sex between her and Joseph Smith she gave them the court testimony they wanted. Which Melissa am i to believe the one that talked to Joseph Smith 3rd, or the one who wrote the affidavit? If she told the truth any only Joseph Smith would know.

They had her pretty practiced on her sexuality claim. She also told R.C. Evans there was sex.(Mormonism Shadow or Reality? pg. 211.)

[tex]

Do they have a fruitcakes anonymous for the people on this site?