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Mar 25, 2007

Kingdom Hall going up

A 4,000-square-foot Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses went up in three days last week when hundreds of volunteers arrived to work around-the-clock to finish the 108-seat building on Highway 7 at the Fox Pass ... via Hot Springs Village Voice

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Apr 22, 2007
 
Jehovah Witnesses can not think for themselves, everything has to come from their governing body.
Also check sites on their false prophecies. Bible students, what exactly does it say about people who attempt to make false prophecies that are not breathed of God?
The people who translated their version of the New World Translation only have high school education, & even when their presidents have been asked to translate Greek or Hebrew into English they have found it impossible during court cases, stumping themselves. And they believe their translation is the the most accurate of all of the versions and translations.
Michael the Archangel is not Jesus, and in NWT's John 1:1 they say Jesus is "a god", thats disgusting, how can you say this, & say that Jesus is only a Mighty God in comparison to Almighty God! Your translators really have it coming, because Almighty God is also called Mighty God in the Scriptures, Your translation has so many errors, as agreed by many Greek & Hebrew Scholars who have more than a high school education. Your Watchtower even agrees with Johannes Greber who admits to speaking with the dead aswell as his wife doing the same thing, and he also translated John 1:1 being "a god", makes you think that evil is working closer than you think or know.
For once, have a free mind & not the same mind as your governing body, remember the path is wide, but the gates are narrow!
Till He Comes, Blessings in your search for the TRUTH.
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Apr 22, 2007
 
-Fishermanofmen- wrote:
Jehovah Witnesses can not think for themselves, everything has to come from their governing body.
Also check sites on their false prophecies. Bible students, what exactly does it say about people who attempt to make false prophecies that are not breathed of God?
The people who translated their version of the New World Translation only have high school education, & even when their presidents have been asked to translate Greek or Hebrew into English they have found it impossible during court cases, stumping themselves. And they believe their translation is the the most accurate of all of the versions and translations.
Michael the Archangel is not Jesus, and in NWT's John 1:1 they say Jesus is "a god", thats disgusting, how can you say this, & say that Jesus is only a Mighty God in comparison to Almighty God! Your translators really have it coming, because Almighty God is also called Mighty God in the Scriptures, Your translation has so many errors, as agreed by many Greek & Hebrew Scholars who have more than a high school education. Your Watchtower even agrees with Johannes Greber who admits to speaking with the dead aswell as his wife doing the same thing, and he also translated John 1:1 being "a god", makes you think that evil is working closer than you think or know.
For once, have a free mind & not the same mind as your governing body, remember the path is wide, but the gates are narrow!
Till He Comes, Blessings in your search for the TRUTH.
Is this the only thing you are going to post? Sort of spam like isn't it?
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Apr 22, 2007
 
NMB wrote:
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Is this the only thing you are going to post? Sort of spam like isn't it?
No it's just the FACTS, call it spam, call it what you will, But I will let every Jehovah Witness that I come across know the TRUTH, I relish their knocking on my door, & every opportunity I get to lift their blinkers.

Blessings...

Till He Comes...
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Apr 23, 2007
 
We come to your door because Mathew 24:14 clearly states that the world will be witnessed to and then the end will come.
this is so when God judges you,..and decides whether he should spare you or destroy you,.. you cannot say you did not know as he can tell you how many times he sent his people to your door and you cussed them ..

we do not take it personally actually feel sorry for you..sorry to be harsh but what is wrong with opening your bible and reading the scriputres for yourself. why not take one free bible study.. It could mean everlasting life on a paradise earth for you and your family.
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No it's just the FACTS, call it spam, call it what you will, But I will let every Jehovah Witness that I come across know the TRUTH, I relish their knocking on my door, & every opportunity I get to lift their blinkers.
Blessings...
Till He Comes...
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Apr 23, 2007
 
The Good News of the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Good News preached by the church is at odds with each other.

The Good News of the church:

Now brothers, I want to clarify for you the gospel I proclaimed to you; you received it and have taken your stand on it. 2 You are also saved by it, if you hold to the message I proclaimed to you —unless you believed to no purpose. 3 For I passed on to you as most important what I also received:

that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
4 that He was buried,
that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
1 Cor 15:1-4

The Good News of the Bible and the church is that Christ died for each one of our personal sins so that we will not have to die an eternal death.

The Good News of the Watchtower Society:

January 15, 1963 Watchtower magazine

Page 48 paragraph 6

The preaching of the “good news” is not now primarily for the purpose of calling persons to the heavenly kingdom but is directed to all men of goodwill who hope to live forever on a paradise earth.

The Good News of the Watchtower Society how they entice you into a Bible Study so you can be indoctrinated.

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Apr 23, 2007
 
Jack wrote:
We come to your door because Mathew 24:14 clearly states that the world will be witnessed to and then the end will come.
this is so when God judges you,..and decides whether he should spare you or destroy you,.. you cannot say you did not know as he can tell you how many times he sent his people to your door and you cussed them ..
we do not take it personally actually feel sorry for you..sorry to be harsh but what is wrong with opening your bible and reading the scriputres for yourself. why not take one free bible study.. It could mean everlasting life on a paradise earth for you and your family.
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Take your own advice,

Matthew 22:29-31 29
Jesus said to them in reply, "You are misled because you do not know the scriptures or the power of God.

At the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage but are like the angels in heaven.
And concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was said to you by God,
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Apr 24, 2007
 

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WELL ACTUALLY HE WAS SPEAKING OF THOSE WHO TEACH FALSE DOCTORINES SUCH AS GOD SENDS YOU TO HELL FIRE, OR YOU GO TO HEAVEN ETC. THESE ARE NOT BIBLE TEACHINGS.. WE ALL GO TO HELL WHEN WE DIE AND WE ALL RETURN TO DUST AS DID OUR FIRST PARENTS OUR THOUGHTS DO PERISH AND WE AWAIT THE HOPE OF A RESURECTION ON A PARADISE EARTH AS JESUS RECITED IN THE OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN HALLOWED BE THY NAME ( AND WE ALSO PRAISE AND GLORIFY GODS NAME WHICH IS JEHOVAH PSLAMS 83;18) THY KINGDOM COME THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS HEAVEN SO WHEN THIS NEW EARTH HAS COME THE MEEK WILL INHEREIT THE EARTH AND RESIDE FOREVER UPON IT PSALMS 37 , THIS IS THE TRUE TEACHINGS OF JESUS CHRSIT SO IT WAS NOT HIS FOLLOWERS WHO ARE TRUE CHRISTIANS HE SPOKE OF. BUT EVERY OTHER FAITH WHO IS UNDER THE RULE OF SATAN, AND WHO WILL BE DESTROYED IF THEY DO NOT EXCERISE FAITH IN HIM JOHN;3;16 . THIS MEANS YOU DO NOT SUPPORT WAR OR GO TO WAR. SLEEP WITH SAME SEX OR COMMIT FORNICATION TO NAME A FEW.. AND EVERY FAITH IN SOME WAY EITHER SING ANTHEMS .. COULD YOU SEE JESUS SINGING AN ANTHEM AND IF HE DID WHICH ONE. ALSO IS HE PLACED ALL HIS DISCIPLES A RULERS OVER EACH COUNTRY WHO WOULD HE SIDE WITH .. NONE AS HE TELLS US TO LOVE OUR ENEMY AND DO NOT TAKE UP THE SWORD. AS THOSE WHO TAKE UP THE SWORD DIE BY THE SWORD..
WE TRUE FOLLOWERS OF CHRSIT LIVE OUR LIFE IN HARMONEY WITH THE BIBLE AND HAVE WHITENED OURSELVES TO LIVE ACCORDINGLY TO JEHOVAH'S REQUIREMENTS.
MAY I ASK WHAT IS YOUR FAITH AND THE NAME OF YOUR GOD?
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Take your own advice,
Matthew 22:29-31 29
Jesus said to them in reply, "You are misled because you do not know the scriptures or the power of God.
At the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage but are like the angels in heaven.
And concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was said to you by God,

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Apr 24, 2007
 

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The building of a Kingdom Hall “quick-build” is impressive, but many Witnesses and outsiders do not realize that this is also makes for clever economics.

Few people except the religious will devote free time to putting up a building, but Witnesses can do it, and since non-baptized helpers are always present, it affords those reluctant to go door-to-door additional opportunities to “get their monthly time in,” as is required to be considered a Jehovah’s Witness.

The local Witnesses benefit, since it cuts the cost of their loan from the Watchtower Society to get the land, and the Watchtower benefits, not only from the publicity but they also now own more property and buildings (No, the local Witnesses will never own it.).

The Watchtower is big money, being one of the top 40 New York City Corporations making nearly one billion dollars a year. That's just from one of their many corporations.

Will they have a food pantry,soup kitchen,or let AA use their building to hold AA meetings like the other charitable Churches do?Does the Watchtower contribute anything back to the community,for their tax free status?

THINK all you readers who have Kingdom Halls in your town,have you ever seen any charity from them?$200 billion in Watchtower corporation worldwide real estate assets.

There are tens of thousands of pages from disgruntled ex-JW's out there in many languages.

When the Watchtower corporate racket is held accountable for their misdeeds they cry religious 'persecution'.

Danny Haszard
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Apr 24, 2007
 
Jack wrote:
WELL ACTUALLY HE WAS SPEAKING OF THOSE WHO TEACH FALSE DOCTORINES SUCH AS GOD SENDS YOU TO HELL FIRE, OR YOU GO TO HEAVEN ETC. THESE ARE NOT BIBLE TEACHINGS.. WE ALL GO TO HELL WHEN WE DIE AND WE ALL RETURN TO DUST AS DID OUR FIRST PARENTS OUR THOUGHTS DO PERISH AND WE AWAIT THE HOPE OF A RESURECTION ON A PARADISE EARTH AS JESUS RECITED IN THE OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN HALLOWED BE THY NAME ( AND WE ALSO PRAISE AND GLORIFY GODS NAME WHICH IS JEHOVAH PSLAMS 83;18) THY KINGDOM COME THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS HEAVEN SO WHEN THIS NEW EARTH HAS COME THE MEEK WILL INHEREIT THE EARTH AND RESIDE FOREVER UPON IT PSALMS 37 , THIS IS THE TRUE TEACHINGS OF JESUS CHRSIT SO IT WAS NOT HIS FOLLOWERS WHO ARE TRUE CHRISTIANS HE SPOKE OF. BUT EVERY OTHER FAITH WHO IS UNDER THE RULE OF SATAN, AND WHO WILL BE DESTROYED IF THEY DO NOT EXCERISE FAITH IN HIM JOHN;3;16 . THIS MEANS YOU DO NOT SUPPORT WAR OR GO TO WAR. SLEEP WITH SAME SEX OR COMMIT FORNICATION TO NAME A FEW.. AND EVERY FAITH IN SOME WAY EITHER SING ANTHEMS .. COULD YOU SEE JESUS SINGING AN ANTHEM AND IF HE DID WHICH ONE. ALSO IS HE PLACED ALL HIS DISCIPLES A RULERS OVER EACH COUNTRY WHO WOULD HE SIDE WITH .. NONE AS HE TELLS US TO LOVE OUR ENEMY AND DO NOT TAKE UP THE SWORD. AS THOSE WHO TAKE UP THE SWORD DIE BY THE SWORD..
WE TRUE FOLLOWERS OF CHRSIT LIVE OUR LIFE IN HARMONEY WITH THE BIBLE AND HAVE WHITENED OURSELVES TO LIVE ACCORDINGLY TO JEHOVAH'S REQUIREMENTS.
MAY I ASK WHAT IS YOUR FAITH AND THE NAME OF YOUR GOD?
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Jack, you are obviously upset, We know who Jesus is, & He is Our Lord & Saviour, He Died on a cross, rose Physically, Doubting Thomas a Jew cried out, "My Lord & My God" after touching his pierced hands from the NailS, Jesus did not get upset as there was no Blaspheming, no use of His Name or calling in Vain! God would not Sacrifice an Arch Angel. Angels even worship Jesus. Remind me about that Scripture where it says that no angel can be worshipped? There is no other God but God. satan called the god of this system is still not a god, he may be worshipped consciously or unconsciously, but he is a false god, There is only ONE GOD, ONE TRUE GOD, The Great & Almighty YHWH Yaweh.
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Apr 26, 2007
 
In Google type:
False Prophecies by Jehovah Witnesses

Beth Sarim -(this is a laugh, they had 2 properties, one being a mansion that Rutherford lived in that was built for the coming of Abraham Moses etc...)

Court cases regarding New World Translation

:::::These people or this Cult is so misleading!::::
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Apr 26, 2007
 
I being a Christian a Follower & Worshiper of Christ, took it upon myself to study with Jehovah's to see what your beliefs are, this went on for many months, once a week, & attended your celebrating the "Annivesary of His death", & here only the remaining chosen 144 000 were able to drink the wine & eat the bread. Jesus said to His Disciples that it must be done in rememberance of Him, not just left for the "selected few".
Also during my studies with Witnesses, it is common knowledge that you learn more from literature passed down from your governing body than the actual Bible. You know my views on the NWT already, I have a copy, & cover it quite frequently with my girlfriend who has studied Greek & Hebrew. There are just so many flaws, I have even found them myself looking through your version of an interlinear.
You speak about the Whore who rides the beast as being of other faiths, you have forgotten to include yourselves in that Prophecy.

Your Founder Charles Taze Russell was fascinated by pyramids & believed that answers lay with them for man kind, even to the point of his belief, he has a pyramid for a tombstone check site: http://www.spotlightministries.org.uk/russell ...

Look at the the false prophecies your organisation made and tries to back up by continuing to change dates to try suit the changing times because of their inaccurate predictions that are NOT BREATHED OF GOD!

TILL HE COMES...
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Apr 26, 2007
 
Jehovahs witnesses can think for themselves. i am one of jehovahs witnesses and i think for myself this guy talking is just a big fat liar.

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Apr 26, 2007
 
Jack wrote:
We come to your door because Mathew 24:14 clearly states that the world will be witnessed to and then the end will come.
this is so when God judges you,..and decides whether he should spare you or destroy you,.. you cannot say you did not know as he can tell you how many times he sent his people to your door and you cussed them ..
we do not take it personally actually feel sorry for you..sorry to be harsh but what is wrong with opening your bible and reading the scriputres for yourself. why not take one free bible study.. It could mean everlasting life on a paradise earth for you and your family.
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The problem for Jehovah's witnesses, Jack; is, the "witness" of their ACTIONS speak louder than the "witness" of their WORDS.
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Apr 28, 2007
 
andrew fishman wrote:
Jehovahs witnesses can think for themselves. i am one of jehovahs witnesses and i think for myself this guy talking is just a big fat liar.
Prove me wrong.
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Apr 28, 2007
 
Can any Jehovah's Witness please tell me about the link provided on the top right of these forum pages called "Jehovah Has Become King" that has the following linked address, my question is about the picture on this site, look at the centre of the picture, What is the Goldish Triangle that is in the middle, what does it symbolise aswell.
http://www.jehovah-has-become-king.com/

I'm quite concerned with your beliefs...

Till He Comes...
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Apr 28, 2007
 
-Fishermanofmen- wrote:
Can any Jehovah's Witness please tell me about the link provided on the top right of these forum pages called "Jehovah Has Become King" that has the following linked address, my question is about the picture on this site, look at the centre of the picture, What is the Goldish Triangle that is in the middle, what does it symbolise aswell.
http://www.jehovah-has-become-king.com/
I'm quite concerned with your beliefs...
Till He Comes...
Sorry you'll have to ask the author of that book. I think his name is Robert King. You might also what to check the validity of his claim of being one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

"What is the Goldish Triangle that is in the middle, what does it symbolise aswell."

Can't tell you as I have no idea.

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Thank you NMB
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I know who Jesus is, & He is Our Lord & Saviour, He Died on a Cross, Rose Physically, Doubting Thomas a Jew cried out, "My Lord & My God" after touching his pierced hands from the NAILS, Jesus did not get upset as there was no Blaspheming, no use of His Name or calling in Vain! God would not Sacrifice an Arch Angel. Angels even worship Jesus. Remind me about that Scripture where it says that no angel can be worshipped?

Revelation 22:8-9 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. 9 But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers the prophets and of all who keep the words of this book. Worship God!"

Hebrews 1:5-8 For to which of the angels did God ever say, "You are my Son; today I have become your Father? Or again, "I will be his Father, and he will be my Son"? 6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him." 7 In speaking of the angels he says, "He makes his angels winds, his servants flames of fire." 8 But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.

There is no other God but God. satan called the god of this system is still not a god, he may be worshipped consciously or unconsciously, but he is a false god, There is only ONE GOD, ONE TRUE GOD, The Great & Almighty YHWH Yaweh.
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May 4, 2007
 
andrew fishman wrote:
Jehovahs witnesses can think for themselves. i am one of jehovahs witnesses and i think for myself this guy talking is just a big fat liar.
If your congregation elders knew that you are on this board conversing with know apostates you would lose any privileges you may have in the congregation.

You can only think for yourself as long as your elders don't know.
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May 4, 2007
 
Setfree: Good points, but I doubt you'll get a response from him. You probably saw that I sent him a few questions regarding that same post, but didn't get an answer either. Most JW's do not like questions which the WT has not given them their pet answers for. You are right, how can one say they think for themselves, when they are constantly warned AGAINST independent thinking?!- WT 1-15-1983 p. 22 & 27.
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