What is a true friend?

[Darice]

What is your definition of a true friend when do you break all ties?

[may i ask]

Darice wrote:

What is your definition of a true friend when do you break all ties?

Well first off i wouldn't catch that friend when they are down to go on a pitty trip for myself.I certainly wouldn't talk about their mama in a bad way.You just don't talk about someones mama.I would love that friend and if there was a problem i would wait until they got well to discuss it with them.See i know you are talking about Lexey and you should be ashamed of your self right now.Seems to me you are only thinking of yourself.

[Darice]

Seems to me you don't know her mom or you would understand, she thinks she is better than everyone just b/c she has a medical degree. I have known her all my life, I never thought she would set out to ruin my friendship with Lexy but she has. She was nice years ago now she won't even talk to you if you are not in her so called class her daughter is getting just like her if you knew her you would understand since you don't you need to just shut up.

[may i ask]

Darice wrote:

Seems to me you don't know her mom or you would understand, she thinks she is better than everyone just b/c she has a medical degree. I have known her all my life, I never thought she would set out to ruin my friendship with Lexy but she has. She was nice years ago now she won't even talk to you if you are not in her so called class her daughter is getting just like her if you knew her you would understand since you don't you need to just shut up.

May be Lexey was raised to respect her elders.No i don't really know Lexey or her Mother.I do know they are originally from West Virginia.We take care of our own here.Lexey gave me some good advice and i thank her for it.By the way i used to live in a little place called Pineywoods Ala. So life is no different there than here and i bet you were taught to respect your elders to, even though you don't.Give them all time to heal and maybe things will be different.But you really really don't talk about peoples mamas.After all how would you feel if it was your mama and Lexey had said something about her?Think about it.

[candice]

Darice wrote:

Seems to me you don't know her mom or you would understand, she thinks she is better than everyone just b/c she has a medical degree. I have known her all my life, I never thought she would set out to ruin my friendship with Lexy but she has. She was nice years ago now she won't even talk to you if you are not in her so called class her daughter is getting just like her if you knew her you would understand since you don't you need to just shut up.

I know her mom. I know you too Darice, I also know how many times she forgave you for all your little episodes and you know what I am speaking of here, quit playing the "victim". You came to the hospital drunk demanding to see her acting iratic. Her mother did what any mother would do, she was protecting her child. She asked you nicely
to leave,I was there or do you remember? What about the fact you have lived in one of their rental houses for 3 yrs.? You pay the rent when you feel like it, I know, I do the books, what kind of a friend is that huh? I call it taking advantage of the friendship, it's always poor,poor pitiful me, with you. Now is not the time to continue this kind of wrath, you may find yourself homeless. I wouldn't blame them one bit if they told you to move. I also knew her before she got her degree. She was a nurse with my mother for many years. I am sure it wasn't easy going to medical school, working and taking care of her daughters all of us were always welcome there and she was good to us and you know it. You also know what you did to change that. You take advantage of everyone you come in contact with. I would have never posted all of this, but I am sick of your attitude.. it really stinks. I will be honest with you. I would have cut ties with you a year ago if I were Lexy. I do not believe alcohol could ever cause me to TRY and seduce my "BEST FRIENDS" husband. You are the one that needs to shut up. I am so upset with you right now even this is beneath you. You sicken me. You are no one's friend but that bottle of VODKA.

[Darice]

I am sorry everyone. I know I am weak when it comes to some things. I am checking in to rehab I am going as soon as they get a bed. I need to know that you all forgive me please call me I need my friends now

[may i ask]

candice wrote:

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I know her mom. I know you too Darice, I also know how many times she forgave you for all your little episodes and you know what I am speaking of here, quit playing the "victim". You came to the hospital drunk demanding to see her acting iratic. Her mother did what any mother would do, she was protecting her child. She asked you nicely
to leave,I was there or do you remember? What about the fact you have lived in one of their rental houses for 3 yrs.? You pay the rent when you feel like it, I know, I do the books, what kind of a friend is that huh? I call it taking advantage of the friendship, it's always poor,poor pitiful me, with you. Now is not the time to continue this kind of wrath, you may find yourself homeless. I wouldn't blame them one bit if they told you to move. I also knew her before she got her degree. She was a nurse with my mother for many years. I am sure it wasn't easy going to medical school, working and taking care of her daughters all of us were always welcome there and she was good to us and you know it. You also know what you did to change that. You take advantage of everyone you come in contact with. I would have never posted all of this, but I am sick of your attitude.. it really stinks. I will be honest with you. I would have cut ties with you a year ago if I were Lexy. I do not believe alcohol could ever cause me to TRY and seduce my "BEST FRIENDS" husband. You are the one that needs to shut up. I am so upset with you right now even this is beneath you. You sicken me. You are no one's friend but that bottle of VODKA.

I don't know you but what you said was very well put.Shame on you Darcie if you got drunk and tried to seduce her husband.That is the lowest thing you can do to a friend.I believe you are a true friend Candice to Lexey.I hope her the best and that she gets well real soon.

[ole pocahontas]

Darice wrote:

I am sorry everyone. I know I am weak when it comes to some things. I am checking in to rehab I am going as soon as they get a bed. I need to know that you all forgive me please call me I need my friends now

I Don't Know U But I'm A Recovering Alcoholic Don't Know What U Are Going To Rehab For & It's None Of My Business But I Just Wanted To Wish U The Best & I Hope U Do Get The Help U Are Looking For & Maybe Your Friends Will Forgive U Of What Ever U Have Done Or Maybe Said. No Matter How Hard Things Get Don't Give Up On Getting Help & Asking The Lord To Help U Get Through What Ever U Are Going To Rehab For, Always Have Faith & Believe In Yourself & Never Ever Give Up. U Can Make It....

[Darice]

Thank you its nice to know there are caring people left in this world.

[mmullins]

there are caring people darice you just overlooked us and thought you were better
get well lexy

[Candice]

ole pocahontas wrote:

<quoted text> I Don't Know U But I'm A Recovering Alcoholic Don't Know What U Are Going To Rehab For & It's None Of My Business But I Just Wanted To Wish U The Best & I Hope U Do Get The Help U Are Looking For & Maybe Your Friends Will Forgive U Of What Ever U Have Done Or Maybe Said. No Matter How Hard Things Get Don't Give Up On Getting Help & Asking The Lord To Help U Get Through What Ever U Are Going To Rehab For, Always Have Faith & Believe In Yourself & Never Ever Give Up. U Can Make It....

You cannot believe her she always starts this rehab plight when she gets caught up in all the madness. She knows she lives in one of Lexy's houses and she knows she crossed the line with her. If I could count the times she said she was going to rehab and had a dime for each time I would be a millionare isn't that right Darice? You are worried aren't you? It is just a good thing that you are the last thing on their minds right now. REHAB you are looking for sympathy once you get it, it's done over and over and over for how many years now? Think about it. I would have to say Rehab will be your only answer right now if you don't really go then what??? I bet I know.

[Darice]

I am not moving anywhere. The law says you cannot
file any legal papers against anyone when they go into treatment. If anyone comes to my door uninvited, I will call the police and have them arrested. How do you like that.,I have no use for any of you. I cannot get kicked out. I got a lease. I am protected by the law.

[pamperedbiker]

Darice wrote:

I am not moving anywhere. The law says you cannot
file any legal papers against anyone when they go into treatment. If anyone comes to my door uninvited, I will call the police and have them arrested. How do you like that.,I have no use for any of you. I cannot get kicked out. I got a lease. I am protected by the law.

Darcie, don't take this the wrong way, I'm just curious....trying to follow this....if you tell your landlord that you are going into rehab, they cannot not evict you?.....or do you actually have to be IN rehab and then, they can't evict you? I'm not saying either is true or untrue, I've just never heard of that before. Like I said, just curious.

[DARICE]

I am sure it applies to this. I know someone can't divorce you while you are in treatment. The same goes here.Eviction is a legal thing you can't just kick people out just cuz you don't like them no more.

[pamperedbiker]

DARICE wrote:

I am sure it applies to this. I know someone can't divorce you while you are in treatment. The same goes here.Eviction is a legal thing you can't just kick people out just cuz you don't like them no more.

Like I said, I wasn't trying to be smart, it just wasn't something I was aware of. I thought the only way you could evict someone was for non-payment and then there was a "legal" amount of time one had before they would be put out on the street. You might want to check for a morals clause, I doubt that it is in your lease, but there may be some verbage that says if you behave in a manner that is a threat or nusiance to neighbors etc...could be cause for eviction...just putting it out there...obviously us folk from WV (myself PA) have no idea what actually went on there...but there are obviously some "issues" you all are having and as one human to another, hope it all works out, and you get the help you need and more importantly, I hope you, "WANT"...that's the only way it will work.

[pamperedbiker]

As an aside to the previous post - Lexey, I do wish you a speedy recovery. I've spoken with "nana" and she's relayed to me some of what's been going on (via your Mom) and I offer you my heart felt apologizes for any discomofort my "assumptions" or projections may have caused you. As your true friend, Candice stated...one should never assume...something we all know, but sometimes forget to practice....God speed

[million]

pamperedbiker wrote:

As an aside to the previous post - Lexey, I do wish you a speedy recovery. I've spoken with "Nana" and she's relayed to me some of what's been going on (via your Mom) and I offer you my heart felt apologizes for any discomofort my "assumptions" or projections may have caused you. As your true friend, Candice stated...one should never assume...something we all know, but sometimes forget to practice....God speed

That is very nice I'm going to print this out for her and take it to her tomorrow... she gave her laptop away to someone she felt sorry for. I agree with you about the assuming thing. This applies to Darice at this time, no one said anything about evicting her. I do believe Candice was like you say throwing that possibility at her and look where it went. I am amazed at how fast things can get misconstrued. I must say I am very ashamed of Darice a part of me would like to see her punished but it will never happen she knows this. The rest of the world pays their bills. If I lived in a house like that for free, I believe I would be grateful. When she sobers up she will realize this. One day it is going to be too late. I just don't know what day that will be. The four of us were friends all through school. I think things will work out or I hope so. Candice is mad but she will get over it if Darice will just stop. As far as your apology I am sure you don't need to worry Lex takes very little serious she always says, "Don't sweat the small stuff". It's her favorite saying. As for you Darice, you are talking about her mother, you know how close they are, you really should just stop.. like Candice said stop saying you are sorry and turning right around doing the same thing again. When you do that it seems like you were never sorry to start with. Please just go to sleep or something. If Lexy gets back on line she will be hurt by your comments. I know you don't mean what you are saying.

[mmullins]

Darice wrote:

I am not moving anywhere. The law says you cannot
file any legal papers against anyone when they go into treatment. If anyone comes to my door uninvited, I will call the police and have them arrested. How do you like that.,I have no use for any of you. I cannot get kicked out. I got a lease. I am protected by the law.

you are seriously wrong your landlord can file papers to have you evicted in any state they have to give you 3 notices and then if you dont go they can have the sheriffs department throw you and your belongings out and hate to tell you rehab wont stop the deadline one bit

[mmullins]

lexy we were once friends before all the trouble started and i hope you get well soon and you are in my prayers and maybe we will be friends again

[ole pocahontas]

Darice wrote:

Thank you its nice to know there are caring people left in this world.

sending u this to try an get u on the right path to getting u interested in keeping up with going to rehab, don't want u to take this an an insult but just trying to get u started in the right direction but rehab has to be what u want.

Also, remember that drunks meet in the Alcoholics Anonymous groups to help one another. They remodel their lives cooperatively. They could not do it alone. Note that the word we is used and not the word I in the steps:

1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol - that our lives had become unmanageable.

2. We came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

4. We made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

5. We admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

6. We were entirely ready to have God remove these defects of -character.

7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.

8. We made a list of all persons we had harmed and became willing to make amends to them all.

9. We made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

10. We continued to take personal inventory, and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.

11. We sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of his will for us and the power to carry that out.

12. Having had a spiritual experience as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics and to practice these principles in all our affairs.