15,000 pot plants found in Hopland

15,000 pot plants found in Hopland

There are 40 comments on the The Ukiah Daily Journal story from May 12, 2009, titled 15,000 pot plants found in Hopland. In it, The Ukiah Daily Journal reports that:

A nearly 15,000-plant marijuana garden on Bureau of Land Management property in Hopland was raided Thursday by County of Mendocino Marijuana Eradication Team deputies.

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always concerned

Laytonville, CA

#2 May 12, 2009
this is not even a drop in the bucket of the damage done by these type of growers. Funny how the amount of environmental damage is down played in most articles. I hear about it from law enforcement and land owners that had grows busted on them.

Since: Apr 09

Willits

#5 May 12, 2009
talk about nipping it in the bud lol..they were just getting started guess they thought since theres no zip tie program it was another free for all year.just kidding this is the type of grower you want to see get got....even though most of it was seedlings thier intent was way overboard
Humboldt Thug

Georgetown, TX

#6 May 12, 2009
As much as I agree that these incidents would not exist if cannabis were as cheap as it should be, I have to hand it to the police for finding this one. Anyone who has been out in this area can attest to the thousands of spots that one would think would be impossible to locate. For those that haven't been, the area in question is one big ATV amusement park with gravel roads running for miles and miles in all directions among lush native vegetation. The whole place is deer crossing central, cool birds and rodents, and spectacular views. For the police to locate anything here is key as this environment desperately needs to be preserved.

It is a shame that cannabis isn't simply grown a couple of miles northwest in the hops agriculture zone. The irony of a genetically similar twining herb being grown in this agricultural area doesn't escape me. It makes no sense to have one member of the Cannabaceae family being grown extensively in perfect soil and weather conditions while the most closely related agricultural species being covertly grown in weak soil that needs to be enriched with chemical fertilizer. It is especially ludicrous that this second herb, cannabis, is more profitable to grow even though it is thousands of orders of magnitude more of a pain in the butt to cultivate than hops because of lack of access to proper agricultural land.

It makes me sick that our lovely parks are being turned into Afghanistan. I can't blame law enforcement for at least trying to put a bandaid on the cancer. I blame the people who support prohibition and people who vote for local politicians that support prohibition.
big al

United States

#7 May 12, 2009
thumbs up to law inforcement good job
Coastal Cowboy

United States

#8 May 12, 2009
And another big time grower gets away, though the poor medical patient still gets busted for thier little garden. I guess the medical patient just isn't quick enough. No arrest were made. humm...
Legalize it. Stop the distruction to our lands and wildlife. Stop the over expendentures in the prohiibition of MJ. Stop the corruption that plagues our government from local to state, to fedral over the illegal use of MJ, and the behind the back payments, that allows this type of behavior to continue.
WHO CARES

New York, NY

#9 May 12, 2009
Even if you legalize it, we're still going to have the ignorant growers out there. People just can't follow the rules of growing!!!!
Pot is Food

Ukiah, CA

#10 May 12, 2009
Wow man, like why did they have to go and bust someone just for growing sacred herb for personal use? Last year I needed 20,000 plants for my personal medicine man, so like why did they have to bust this dude for just growing his own? Ya know?
Humboldt Thug

Georgetown, TX

#11 May 12, 2009
WHO CARES wrote:
Even if you legalize it, we're still going to have the ignorant growers out there. People just can't follow the rules of growing!!!!
How many people grow guerrilla hops?
anb

United States

#12 May 12, 2009
Humboldt Thug wrote:
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How many people grow guerrilla hops?
You know, I think you have a point. If pot were only as profitable as hops, only those with enough business savvy and ethical sense are going to go through the trouble. In addition, the environmentally ignorant would most likely be filtered out of the picture. I have witnessed some pretty ridiculously stupid pot growers in action. I can't imagine any of them being successful enough to grow and sell hops.
Humboldt Thug

Georgetown, TX

#13 May 12, 2009
anb wrote:
<quoted text>You know, I think you have a point. If pot were only as profitable as hops, only those with enough business savvy and ethical sense are going to go through the trouble. In addition, the environmentally ignorant would most likely be filtered out of the picture. I have witnessed some pretty ridiculously stupid pot growers in action. I can't imagine any of them being successful enough to grow and sell hops.
I've been interested in the obvious similarities between hops and cannabis for some time.

Hops is generally planted via elite genetic clones. Hops is sold as dried female flower pods. Hops produces about one pound of flowers per plant. If you go to a homebrew store and ask them about the new flavors for the new strains of hops, it is pretty much the same story as new strains of bud. Most of the new flavors are crosses of "backbone" strains with names like Perle, Hallertau, Splat, Magnum, Tettnanger, Taurus, Saaz, First Gold etc.

Hops is not bad money nor is the market flooded. There is an ongoing worldwide shortage of quality organic hops of various strains. Go ask a homebrew shop, they will tell you all about the limited availability. This difficult to find elite strain organic hops can fetch such high prices as...$20 per ounce.
Humboldt Thug

Georgetown, TX

#14 May 12, 2009
Oh, and hops cuttings cost between $6-$10 and are graded on the alpha acid content of the resin as a percentage. For instance, there are 4-5% alpha and 7-9% alpha hops cuttings.

Here is a page that was selling hops clones earlier this year:

http://www.thymegarden.com/site/561124/page/2...

Note the names of select specimen such as "Fuggle" and "Nugget Nuggy Grande." I mean, c'mon, it is almost the same danged plant yet high quality cannabis costs ten times more while being thousands of times less scarce.
John

Santa Rosa, CA

#15 May 12, 2009
Legalize it and end the environmental destruction caused by all these plant and run cartel crops.
Mexican guy

United States

#17 May 13, 2009
I heard some people who grow guerrilla marihuana they need thousands and thousand of dollars but the only person who can finance that much money are the white people that has bussines,,that's funny cuz the Hispanic people just grow marijuana for someone else , for them it's like regular jobs
DONT DEPORT-SHOOT

Amity, OR

#18 May 13, 2009
SHOOT THESE ILLEGAL MEXICAN MAFIA GROWERS ON PUBLIC LANDS-Don't waste my tax money deporting them because they just come back!
Ex-Willits Girl

AOL

#19 May 14, 2009
For everyone that supports making this crap legal to free up law enforcement do you really think that will happen ? there will ALWAYS be ILLEGAL GROWS because the SCUMBAGS DO NOT WANT TO PAY THE GOVERNMENT so in other words law enforcement will still have to do the raids DUH. Besides the CRAP STINKS to high heaven and who wants to live next door to it ???

“Illegitimati non carborundum”

Since: Nov 08

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#20 May 14, 2009
Ex-Willits Girl wrote:
For everyone that supports making this crap legal to free up law enforcement do you really think that will happen ? there will ALWAYS be ILLEGAL GROWS because the **** DO NOT WANT TO PAY THE GOVERNMENT so in other words law enforcement will still have to do the raids DUH. Besides the CRAP STINKS to high heaven and who wants to live next door to it ???
Well something has to change. Arresting people has not worked in the 75+ years pot has been illegal. Use has only gone up. Make it legal, forget taxing it and just let people use it if they want to. It cannot kill them and any hazards that have been reported have been proven to be less harmful than any other drug out there. Heck, sugar is more dangerous and harmful. By making it legal for any adult to use you will eliminate all profit which will kill the trade and crime from it will stop. police then will have "nothing" to raid and coan concdentrate on real crime for a change.
Plus, I think it smells better than those stinky old roses all the old geezers like to cultivate. Plus I don't have to worry about getting snagged by thorns. Smell is really a personal preferrence/opinion anyway.
cindy

Amity, OR

#21 May 14, 2009
How on earth do we know so surely it was a hispanic male if thet fled. Just because its a pot grow does not mean the individual is hispanic. For all we know it could have been a sun scorched, very much caucasion. They grow too, or I should say theyy are the owners of the grow.
MendocinoNotMend o

United States

#22 May 14, 2009
cindy wrote:
How on earth do we know so surely it was a hispanic male if thet fled. Just because its a pot grow does not mean the individual is hispanic. For all we know it could have been a sun scorched, very much caucasion. They grow too, or I should say theyy are the owners of the grow.
stop reaching; sun-scorched or not, it would be fairly easy to tell
Mexican guy

United States

#23 May 14, 2009
cindy wrote:
How on earth do we know so surely it was a hispanic male if thet fled. Just because its a pot grow does not mean the individual is hispanic. For all we know it could have been a sun scorched, very much caucasion. They grow too, or I should say theyy are the owners of the grow.
you are right..
El Capitano

Owensboro, KY

#24 May 14, 2009
Most big time growers don't get their hands dirty. They hire Mexicans to grow for them .
Some of the big timers have properties rented in three states and pay to have their crops grown
by hispanics. I often wonder why local ranchers don't run much stock or have any sort of fodder or agricultural crops and still have 8-10 hispanics living behind locked gates from April until November? Prohibition people talk about the hippies driving their big jacked-up trucks around. But then some local ranchers come up with new Cats and other 1/4 to 1/2 million dollar heavy equipment without the capital or credit to purchase such. And they get government subsidies for losses suffered or to not harvest their crops.
And it is pretty simple to spot gardens if you actually go out in the bush on foot. While serving as a fed agent/officer. I used to go out in full cammies before the sun came up and walk 2-5 miles from vehicle or end of road and wait listening from a hill top. I would hear voices or the tell tale sound of gas water pumps. Same thing in the evening. Just as the sun was setting you would hear gas water pumps starting up here and there. I was trained to do recon during the Vietnam era. So it wasn't hard to find the hidden gardens. And they were all illegal back then. We did fly overs and spotted a few. But that wasn't even half of the gardens out there. Another thing is use the US Geological Survey data or use the the new GSI to find water sources and check water sources area. The dope cops use all that and more. So THEY CAN FIND ALL THE GARDENS THEY WANT.
I still like the smell of fresh marijuana in the morning. It smells like money and corruption....

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