Newbie

United States

#144 Mar 10, 2013
Tech wrote:
Jason was never locked out. He put the key in and entered the cell. It is what it is nobody is to blame. We lost a dear soul with a family. I think bashing the company about what happened is stupid. It was a accident no matter what the outcome. I think it's best if we focus on Jason's family. I was very disturbed martinrea didn't put flags haft mast for Jason. That should say something.!
They did put flags at half staff the night it happened I saw it when leaving on c shift. We all need to pray for Jason's family. Regardless of who's fault it was it is tragic and his young children are who we need to focus on and help.
P Harvey

Duluth, GA

#146 Mar 10, 2013
Rut wrote:
P Harvey got one thing wrong. Drill & Tap was not restarted that night. It was taped off for the investigation.
They did not run full production, but did restart the machine, and cycled it for some time to see if there was a glitch.
operator2

Nortonville, KY

#147 Mar 10, 2013
doesn't seem like they get the best people for safety or management and if they do they quit or are fired. this company needs to be bought out and properly run as this group out of canada or wherever aren't capable

hope OSHA comes down all over them!!!! God bless the Sholar family
ex maintenance personal

Dunlap, TN

#148 Mar 10, 2013
UAW should come to Martinrea. Trust me I hate the union but it would be better for the employees . I'm glad I don't work in that shit hole any more. Something has to give. It must be a Martinrea thing. TN. Plant is the way about stopping the line. God bless all the poor employees keep your head up.
Crystal Hulsey

Irmo, SC

#149 Mar 10, 2013
i had the honor of being Jason Sholars mother in law and the great honor of being his WIDOWS mom and childrens grandmother, i am really upset with the postings on the accident. it doesnt matter how it happened at this time and actually it is nobodys business unless you are a relative or a martinrea at this time. not only does it show disrespect for the family it shows poor judgment. i doubt that only a few people that have posted were at the scene or hospital know the entire truth and should keep opinions and rumors to themself. you have caused grief. i hope you are ashamed
lolly

Hopkinsville, KY

#150 Mar 10, 2013
Praying for the family. This is a sad situation all around. And I know friends/employees are angry at what happened. But, that anger isn't going to change the fact that he's gone. Rumors circulating are not going to help anyone, and they only hurt his family more and cause displaced anger towards a person or incident that may have never happened.
Everyone just pray for his family, esp his wife and babies. I'm sure that is where he would want all this attention going.. Check on his wife and babies. I'm sure his family will do all they can and seek appropriate help to see that justice is served in this case. Really, there needs to be some kind of lawsuit brought against these big companies.. Ford, etc that prohibits them from pressing, pushing, prodding these factories to drive employees to fear of losing their jobs if not enough parts get out. Pray on that!
for real

United States

#151 Mar 10, 2013
Fed up wife wrote:
To the person who explained how Jason's neck, teeth, jaw were broken you should be ashamed. This is a public forum and his mother or family could read this. If this were about you, would you want your family reading the gory details of your death? Please think about what u post and how others would feel. I don't care whose fault is was, a life was lost because of it. I have known Jason and his family since we were all in high school. He was a funny, loving, sweet man. He would always go out of his way to help someone. He deserves to be remembered with respect and for the joy he brought to people's lives. My own husband works for Martinrea and has been there for over 10 years. The hours stink, they don't want to let people off work, and they work them like dogs. I know all about the mandatory overtime and the safety issues. Would I like him to find another great paying job that he doesn't have to work there? Yes, but until then its his job. I worry about him everyday he leaves for work until he comes back home. If you work there and see a violation then please notify someone and keep at it until the problem is fixed. This all was a horrible accident but more can be prevented if the company will think more about their employees and safety than about numbers and the bottom line. Just say a prayer for his parents and his kids and hug your own family a little tighter.
P Harvey has gave the most sensible reasoning to this tragic event. I understand that the fact that his teeth was broken was hardcore but that is what happen. I am speaking from my personal life when my father died. I wanted to know everything. I personally feel like p Harvey was trying to do the right thing here. The truth is what means the most for his family & the employees that work there.
Family man

United States

#152 Mar 11, 2013
To all those insensitive individuals that make up stories
Stop the B.S !!!!
There are people that lost a loved one.
It is hard enough for the family to deal with a loss, let them grieve in peace!
If you have lost a loved one you understand!
If the family wants to know the details they can find out from the authorities !
The truth will come out, and all you liers will be shamed!
This is the 21 century!
No one wanted this to happen!
If you have an axe to grind with the company or people there this not the time or the place.
Show respect for the grieving family, friends and people who are working there.
Those who are not happy leave the company
Go find a place where you can be happy.
No one is forcing you to work there.
God bless Jason's soul and comfort his loving family, friends and co workers.
LAP worker

Louisville, KY

#153 Mar 11, 2013
You people that think we should sue big companies (Ford) for holding manufacturing plants accountable for what was contractually agreed upon are so unrealistic. When the bids were sent in Ford accepted what Martinrea said they could deliver, period. When they don't hold up what they agreed to its not Fords fault. Why should Ford bear the costs of down time and why should our families lose money because of poor production elsewhere? If they can't make it right and deliver on time safely then they should loose the contract. Now look what you've done, there's hundreds of people without jobs in Hopkinsville. Besides what happens when we start suing companies? The price of everything just goes up. You don't really think that Ford is gonna pay that lawsuit do you? Just remember that s%#t rolls down hill and the majority of us are living somewhere along the way.

Having a strong background in EH&S I can tell you for every dollar you spend in safety you will gain 2 in return. When your employees see a company that puts them before the bottom dollar everything gets better. Employees are happier, work safer and more productive. Really if you think about the dynamics if you stop the line to correctly repair a problem and lose 10 min worth of production it may cost $5000. Or in this case corners were cut trying do what the company wanted. It costs thousands in down time, it will costs thousands in fines, it costs transportation companies thousands in lost monies, it costs Ford thousands in downtime and it cost employees all around money from a paycheck. Not to mention the horrible loss that will never end for his family. There's never a dollar amount that could be placed on that. So what if his wife and kids receive enough to live out the rest of their time comfortable. I'd be will to bet you Bill Gates money they'd rather have Jason home for just 1 more day. BOTTOM LINE is that someone there that has the position and can make the difference needs to stand up for his neighbors. They need to do their homework and figure out the amount lost vs potential gains from truly doing it right and force those numbers to those that can make it happen. It can be done someone just has to do it.

To Jason's family: I am so sorry for your loss! There are no words at a time like this that will make any difference. I just hope that your loss will prompt the changes needed to prevent this from ever happening again. I truly wish you the best in your difficult journey ahead. I thankfully have nothing that I can compare to what you are going through.
Nucking Futs

Hopkinsville, KY

#154 Mar 11, 2013
Crystal Hulsey wrote:
i had the honor of being Jason Sholars mother in law and the great honor of being his WIDOWS mom and childrens grandmother, i am really upset with the postings on the accident. it doesnt matter how it happened at this time and actually it is nobodys business unless you are a relative or a martinrea at this time. not only does it show disrespect for the family it shows poor judgment. i doubt that only a few people that have posted were at the scene or hospital know the entire truth and should keep opinions and rumors to themself. you have caused grief. i hope you are ashamed
I am sorry for the loss to this entire family. It is sad and tragic. The only details I was glad to see, was how this tragic thing occured. I know the Robots where I work at are designed in a safe manner. But I was able to use that part of the information to open my eyes and verify this could not happen here and was able to express the importance the safety to each of my guys.

I hope the entire family finds their healing soon as GOD said, he will never bear more upon us than we can handle, but he sure does know how to push us to our limits.
I wish I would have had the joy of knowing Jason. Sounds like he was one heck of a person that will be sadly missed.
he saves

Hopkinsville, KY

#155 Mar 11, 2013
I would like to express my deepest condolences to the family of Jason
Cadiz

Cadiz, KY

#156 Mar 11, 2013
I am so sorry for what happened to Jason, my condolences to his entire family. I am so glad P Harvey told the whole story so the public can now fight back with an outcry against this factory with slave like conditions. No one should have to work under those unfair conditions just to put food in the mouths of their children.
Joe C

Dayton, OH

#157 Mar 11, 2013
Our condolences to Jason's family and friends from the workers at another LAP supplier in southwest Ohio.
Worker

Nortonville, KY

#158 Mar 11, 2013
Is it true wrote:
Is it true that none of Jason's second shift co-workers are being allowed to attend his visitation (at least without taking a point)?
If so, it would not surprise me one bit. That place is run by some cold-hearted SOB's.
no it's not true they were able to go and will get paid for two hours.
Fed Up Wife

Cadiz, KY

#159 Mar 11, 2013
for real wrote:
<quoted text>
P Harvey has gave the most sensible reasoning to this tragic event. I understand that the fact that his teeth was broken was hardcore but that is what happen. I am speaking from my personal life when my father died. I wanted to know everything. I personally feel like p Harvey was trying to do the right thing here. The truth is what means the most for his family & the employees that work there.
I am just saying that maybe a different description needed to be used. I know what happened as i have talked to his family. they dont need it repeated over the internet and have to relive it over and over. People just need to know that it was a tragic accident and that a great man lost his life. end of story.

i agree things need to be changed at Martinrea. It wasnt like this when the previous companies owned it. Things wont change overnight.
But the employees are going to have to start reporting violations and not use the shortcuts even if their superior told them too. Suing the company isnt going to do a darn bit of good because it can't bring Jason back. nothing can.
Tgask co worker

Hopkinsville, KY

#160 Mar 11, 2013
Rip hillbilly it was a pleasure knowing you my heart goes out to your Family
Inquiring minds

Corbin, KY

#161 Mar 11, 2013
was this young man a supporter of the attempts to get a union? is it true that at other locations there have been safety incidents involving union supporters and organizers? if so a investigation into the behind the scenes workings of martinraes union busting policys is needed.
its me

Candler, NC

#162 Mar 11, 2013
Pray wrote:
<quoted text>
Robots do not just kick on when locked out. I think you are assuming it was locked out. Or heard from someone that it was locked out.
I am not saying Jason was at fault but I think you are making statements on something that you do not have all the facts on. OSHA will investigate ant then we will know what happened.
I was there jason followed all procetures it was faulty equipment that caused his death
teamleaders wife

Hopkinsville, KY

#163 Mar 11, 2013
I was one of approx 300+ people whom went to the viewing tonight and though it was very hard to see jason like this, he was done up very nice and the setting was beautiful . R.I.P. jason hope you wife and children would not have to worry about money anymore.even thought they would rather have you to be here to support them . Now Martinrea should support them in everything they need . and make a note ,that they need to step up and take care of all there employees (like there own family) cause its the workers whom are supporting the big bosses and the big top employees .Not the other way around !
Not just in Ky

Adrian, MI

#164 Mar 12, 2013
To the family of Jason, I am so sorry for your loss and pray God gives you strength in the coming months. Also this is not only happening in KY but probably in all of their plants in the USA, my son works for Martinrea in Michigan and tells us horror stories on how they treat their workers and how they want profit over safety.!!! Hopefully someone from OSHA will finally see thru their BS and make it safe for all employees in their company.

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