Jucie Jane

Elkton, KY

#61 Apr 10, 2012
I know that you are not trying to say that you have to be in a union to get overtime pay? all the other factories get these holidays without a union. Have you ever worked on a holiday and got triple pay...didn't think so! You have seniority language....only thing your seniority is good for is vacation days! And just what do you have a voice in at the plant....can't answer that either because you have none. Each contract gets better...this is your second one so how many will it take to get good? Think I know the answer to that....this will be your last contract and you know it. Yeah you got a 1500 bonus but when was your last pay raise? You said it yourself that many people there do not support the union...if it is so great to you guys why in the world wouldn't they???new work coming to your plant...guess who is going to be doing all that new work? I can tell you...all these new people that they are hiring in now at a much lower pay...that is your people who are going to be doing that new business...your contract will be out and the new people will be in ....seniority is only good for vacation days...you will have plenty of them....sooooooo enjoy your vacation and God bless the "union"..........hav e fun in your dream world while it lasts!
anonymouse

Benton, KY

#62 Apr 10, 2012
Did you get Good Friday off Jane? Because I did and I bet it's not on your approved list of "non union" job holidays!
Jucie Jane

Elkton, KY

#63 Apr 10, 2012
Sorry but I did...got anything else....we got a raise and a bonus....and no union dues..........
anonymouse

Benton, KY

#64 Apr 10, 2012
You probably had to use an unpaid personal day though!
casey p

Hopkinsville, KY

#65 Apr 10, 2012
i dont care one way or the other, but my friend Paris is pushing for it real hard and i will most likely back him.
Bigj

Greenville, KY

#66 Apr 11, 2012
Our maint men have worked many Holidays, and yes they got triple time! We did get a small raise last year in Jan and in this contract we get a 5% raise! No one likes tier two pay scales and as long as we have non union plants with low wages bidding on work at low rates we will have these, but at least we have a chance to change things, has your health insurance increased in the last 4 years? you make a big deal about the dues but any of these benefits out way the amount, did you read about the ratification bonus, it paid all of my dues for this contract and most of the next if you want to look at it that way, so why do you still think it is so bad? Name one place at home church or at work that doesnt have disgruntled people some people dont like anything and you can never do enough for them!
Pro UAW

Washington, DC

#67 Apr 13, 2012
Bigj wrote:
I will give you some facts, In our contract we get 1 1/2(Time in half) for any hours over 8, we get 1 1/2 (Time in half)pay for first 8 hours sat and double time for anything over 8 on Sat and any hours on sunday, We get 12-14 paid Holidays per year, we get triple time for any of the time worked on those holidays, our Health Insurance has not went up any since 2008 and we know where it goes through this contract. We have job security with seniority language (yes it is not perfect)We have a voice in things at the plant, maybe things dont always work out, but we do have a voice. As far as our pention, remember we only joined the UAW in 2008 so if a person retired with a $100.00 pention, with hardly no years in it that is pretty good, plus it did not cost him or her a penny!! There are many other good things in our contract as well, but remember each contract gets better, your first is never the best! Oh yea, we signed a ratification bonus of $2350 dollars, that paid our union dues for the whole contract plus put money in our pockets, how many non union plants pay ratification bonuses? And yes we pay 1.15% to the UAW for any bonuses that are negotiated, but I dont know many people that would not pay $27.00 in order to keep $1500.00 So you can think what you want about the UAW and Metalsa, and I know there are people here at our plant that dont support things, but they still reap the benefits, and there are many! New work comming in to our plant that the UAW helped get!! I will quit writing now, but I think these few things alone are worth my $34.50 a month in dues! God Bless America and God bless the UAW!!
Amen!!
Boo Boo

Hopkinsville, KY

#68 Apr 14, 2012
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brewsters

Brownsville, TN

#69 Apr 14, 2012
Companies will negotiate terms and conditions with customers and vendors but find it abhorrent to negotiate terms and conditions with their employees.

GO UNION!!!!
brewsters

Brownsville, TN

#70 Apr 14, 2012
Plymouth Extruded Shapes is thinking about going UNION also! This is great news!
Jucie Jane

Elkton, KY

#71 Apr 14, 2012
Better check things out ..the big 3 is trying to go with non union supplier plants for their parts..saves lots of money...makes sense..money is the name of the game...has the uaw shaking in their shoes...they are scrambling to put a stop to this ..it is their paycheck too! You can not trust the union...the way that they got into old Dana was they made a deal with the company in exchange for helping them out when they had to file bankruptcy. It was public knowledge...in all the papers...they let them come into the plant to sell their crap to the desperate employees...some of it was true but some of it was just an out right lie...they all know it now but there is little that they can do....just saying check out what is going on and do not trust the uaw completely...jobs are hard to find and these low life companies will do anything to keep their business with the big 3...they have no choice...be careful what you ask for...sometimes it is easy for these people to screw you without you even knowing it until it is too late!
qwerty

Madisonville, TN

#72 Apr 14, 2012
Jucie Jane wrote:
Better check things out ..the big 3 is trying to go with non union supplier plants for their parts..saves lots of money...makes sense..money is the name of the game...has the uaw shaking in their shoes...they are scrambling to put a stop to this ..it is their paycheck too! You can not trust the union...the way that they got into old Dana was they made a deal with the company in exchange for helping them out when they had to file bankruptcy. It was public knowledge...in all the papers...they let them come into the plant to sell their crap to the desperate employees...some of it was true but some of it was just an out right lie...they all know it now but there is little that they can do....just saying check out what is going on and do not trust the uaw completely...jobs are hard to find and these low life companies will do anything to keep their business with the big 3...they have no choice...be careful what you ask for...sometimes it is easy for these people to screw you without you even knowing it until it is too late!
Typical management propaganda!
anonymouse

Hopkinsville, KY

#73 Apr 14, 2012
I think I know exactly which under-educated rep Jane is now! How do you hold that job still when you have yet to receive the proper degree?
Think!!

United States

#74 Apr 19, 2012
Jucie Jane wrote:
Sorry but I did...got anything else....we got a raise and a bonus....and no union dues..........
Ask your self, why did I receive receive a bonus?
Answer: To keep people like you happy and against the Union.
If it wasn't for the threat of the Union at your work place you can bet your BONU$ that you your employer wouldn't be so kind to to give you healthcare, BONU$, sick days & payed holidays oh and retirement.
lou lou

Hopkinsville, KY

#75 Apr 19, 2012
paris said go union and if down the road the plant closes down and moves, so what go find another job.

Since: Apr 12

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#76 Apr 19, 2012
wow. i thought this discussion was about martinrea and some interest in exploring the option an rights of workers to organize, assemble and choose collective bargaining over "at will" status. it looks more that it's become an argument involving a passionate but, i believe, misinformed individual and supporters of collective bargaining.

i'm new to this forum. i'm not sure if or how a private messaging feature is available. if one is, anyone from martinrea in hopkinsville, ky is welcome to contact me for some basic information an some real world contacts who deal with organizing at the uaw.. i can understand your reluctance to put personal information on this site. although prohibited by law, companies sometimes retaliate against employees who openly support forming a collective bargaining unit (union) in their workplace.

i work at metalsa in hopkinsville. i'm proud to be a member of uaw local 3063. i don't have to be afraid of what my company will do to me if i openly support the union. i don't have to be afraid that if i voice a concern or raise an issue that i'll be fired, shifted to another department, shift or work area as a result. i know that as long as i come to work on time, do the job i have chosen to do under the job bidding and transfer procedures negotiated in our latest collective bargaining agreement, and produce a quality product, i have the ultimate in job security, pay, and benefits available to workers in the segment of auto work we occupy.

working in a union plant is far from being a workers paradise. the work is still hard, the requirements for production and quality are still stringent, and the competition for new work is fierce. being part of an organization that makes it possible to negotiate rates of work, address issues of health and safety, and acknowledge the seniority of employees in job and shift bidding makes for an easier acceptance of the fact that the auto industry is a demanding and physical occupation.

Our member-elected bargaining committee works to assure that that the desires of the membership are presented to the management continuously, that legitimate grievances are pursued diligently, and that the collective bargaining agreement is negotiated each period with the sole purpose of improving the quality of life for the workers while keeping the company competitive and profitable in the market. the membership votes to accept or reject proposed modifications of the existing collective bargaining agreement as well as the new agreement negotiated at expiration of the current one.

so, anyway...martinrea workers who may want more information can contact me privately here if that's possible or meet someplace in hopkinsville. for instance; i'll be at starbucks near the walmart store from 2:00 to 3:30pm on tuesday, april 24. I'll be the guy in the uaw t-shirt. come over and say hello. if that's a poor time and place, where's the better choice for you?
Looking4maintena nce

Lexington, KY

#77 Apr 20, 2012
I'm curious about the maintenance dept at the shelbyville plant? Also curious about the hours and over time. How much is voluntary vs manditory? Thanks
Bigj

United States

#78 Apr 26, 2012
tim59 wrote:
wow. i thought this discussion was about martinrea and some interest in exploring the option an rights of workers to organize, assemble and choose collective bargaining over "at will" status. it looks more that it's become an argument involving a passionate but, i believe, misinformed individual and supporters of collective bargaining.
i'm new to this forum. i'm not sure if or how a private messaging feature is available. if one is, anyone from martinrea in hopkinsville, ky is welcome to contact me for some basic information an some real world contacts who deal with organizing at the uaw.. i can understand your reluctance to put personal information on this site. although prohibited by law, companies sometimes retaliate against employees who openly support forming a collective bargaining unit (union) in their workplace.
i work at metalsa in hopkinsville. i'm proud to be a member of uaw local 3063. i don't have to be afraid of what my company will do to me if i openly support the union. i don't have to be afraid that if i voice a concern or raise an issue that i'll be fired, shifted to another department, shift or work area as a result. i know that as long as i come to work on time, do the job i have chosen to do under the job bidding and transfer procedures negotiated in our latest collective bargaining agreement, and produce a quality product, i have the ultimate in job security, pay, and benefits available to workers in the segment of auto work we occupy.
working in a union plant is far from being a workers paradise. the work is still hard, the requirements for production and quality are still stringent, and the competition for new work is fierce. being part of an organization that makes it possible to negotiate rates of work, address issues of health and safety, and acknowledge the seniority of employees in job and shift bidding makes for an easier acceptance of the fact that the auto industry is a demanding and physical occupation.
Our member-elected bargaining committee works to assure that that the desires of the membership are presented to the management continuously, that legitimate grievances are pursued diligently, and that the collective bargaining agreement is negotiated each period with the sole purpose of improving the quality of life for the workers while keeping the company competitive and profitable in the market. the membership votes to accept or reject proposed modifications of the existing collective bargaining agreement as well as the new agreement negotiated at expiration of the current one.
so, anyway...martinrea workers who may want more information can contact me privately here if that's possible or meet someplace in hopkinsville. for instance; i'll be at starbucks near the walmart store from 2:00 to 3:30pm on tuesday, april 24. I'll be the guy in the uaw t-shirt. come over and say hello. if that's a poor time and place, where's the better choice for you?
Well said, if anyone is interested just let us know through this post and we will give you all the pro's and cons!

“Dewey Beats Truman!”

Since: Apr 12

Here

#79 Apr 27, 2012
GO UNION!
tim59

Columbia, TN

#80 Apr 27, 2012
the real anonymouse wrote:
GO UNION!
i may owe an apology. i was late getting to starbucks last tuesday. i did get there, and i enjoyed a conversation with another patron and hoped someone from martinrea would appear. i sincerely apologize for my tardiness and am planing to visit starbucks each tuesday around 2:00 pm to talk with anyone from martinrea or anyone else who'd like information on organizing their workplace.

i think there's a point that needs to be made or reiterated regarding the posts made by an individual in this forum who doesn't understand the role of collective bargaining and the impact labor unions have in today's workplace: your overtime pay, holidays, vacations, seniority rights, insurance, working conditions, and general pay and benefits packages have come about as a direct result of collective bargaining done in your behalf, regardless of your affiliation or affinity for any union.

when a union negotiates such beneficial packages with a company, all companies within that industry are impacted. companies do not like unions, generally. they don't want their totalitarian control limited in any way. it is much easier for them to tell workers what is in their best interest rather than bargain in good faith for true improvements in that aspect of life. in order to prevent workers from coming together as a group to demand their legal right to assemble, exercise free speech and organize a union, they will somewhat approach benefits and workplace practices along the same lines as union contracts. it works well for companies. it all too often fools workers. the bottom line between organized labor environments and those who haven't yet chosen to work as a collective group can be summed up in two small words: "at will". with no binding contractural language the management can change, modify, insert, withdraw, or void any and all "promises" or "guarantees" they may make to pacify the workforce. they can plead poverty while raking in record profits so as not to share in the fruits of worker's labor. they can hire and fire on a whim, change shift times and work rules without regard to the impact on the lives of the people producing the products that result in the profits.

if unions lose density in the industries they represent, management will find it easier to back away from the few benefits they offer non-organized shops. they will replace permanent employees with associates, contract workers or temps paying them far less and greatly reducing or eliminating healthcare, retirement, pay, and working conditions and increasing the amount that goes to their concerns. it becomes a race to the bottom for workers and the middle class.

i'm again giving an open invitation to meet with anyone interested in more information. tuesdays from (about) 2:00 until (around) 3:30 or whenever is convenient. you lose nothing by getting information. we all stand to lose if you don't.

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