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Trish
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Just what we dont need ,,mich is poor enough and youll have desperate people try to get out of dept by gambling.....we have enough seperated familys,,poor ,,needey kids,,now they will go more with it not being so far away,,,,sad,,,,i know way to many familys that are broke up do to ,,gambling,,drinking,,cheating ..and lying just for a quick trill.and the kids alway suffer,,and they get no where..Yes it will create jobs for some while others go broke.it just dont add up......only my opinion..sorry..........
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No quick fix
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Most of us do not want the casino or the type of jobs that it will bring to our area. We will reap what we sow.
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Trish
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No quick fix wrote: Most of us do not want the casino or the type of jobs that it will bring to our area. We will reap what we sow. AMEN to that.........
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Big Pimpin
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I think the casino near Wayland would be a positive influence to the GR area. Think of the new jobs, hotels, resturants, bars, revenue, sales tax $..... etc..
If you don't want to gamble... do not go to this new establishment.
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Mike
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Big Pimpin wrote: I think the casino near Wayland would be a positive influence to the GR area. Think of the new jobs, hotels, resturants, bars, revenue, sales tax $..... etc.. If you don't want to gamble... do not go to this new establishment. While I'm not against casinos - it's hardly an economic stimulus. We're not talking high paying jobs here. Now if Goggle opened up a tech center in GR - that would be a serious stimulus.
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dan r
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Trish wrote: Just what we dont need ,,mich is poor enough and youll have desperate people try to get out of dept by gambling.....we have enough seperated familys,,poor ,,needey kids,,now they will go more with it not being so far away,,,,sad,,,,i know way to many familys that are broke up do to ,,gambling,,drinking,,cheating ..and lying just for a quick trill.and the kids alway suffer,,and they get no where..Yes it will create jobs for some while others go broke.it just dont add up......only my opinion..sorry.......... Trish, thank you so much for your comments. I dont know what i would do without you and others like you,concerned about me and telling me how i should live my life. Oh ya, i forget. You are SO much smarter than me. If it weren't for you, who knows where i would be? A little advice here, FOCUS ON YOUR OWN FAMILY!! and leave the rest of us alone!
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pjdutchville
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It figures now, that the "tribe" is withholding payments from one of their other 8 million casinos we have in this state.
All those "new jobs" go to their "own". Look at all the employees up in Mt. Pleasant. Let's call a spade a spade, and stop being so PC.
Should have voted in slots at Great Lakes Downs. At least they paid their bills. And the place wasn't run by Sitting Bull....no thanks due to Jenny Granholm, though.
Watch out Wayland....ya got it comin'.
And you're right. If you don't gamble, don't go!
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Club Keno Settlement – Finally! The long-awaited finish to the dispute over the State of Michigan’s Club Keno game has finally come to an end. Negotiations between the Little River Band of Ottawa Indians, the Little Traverse Bay Band of Odawa Indians and the State of Michigan wrapped up in March and were announced on the 21st of the month. Press releases about the settlement from the LRBOI Public Affairs office and the Office of Governor Jennifer Granholm are reprinted here in their entirety. Ogema Larry Romanelli was quoted by the Governor’s office as was Chairman Frank Ettawageshik from LTTB. Romanelli expressed his pleasure that a settlement was finally reached that allowed the tribes to work together while,“respecting the sovereignty of each side.” Under terms of the agreement, LRBOI will end up paying 6% of its’ Casino Electronic Gaming Revenues to the state instead of the pre-settlement rate of 8%. The tribe will continue to provide 2% of the same revenues to the local units of government (Revenue Sharing Board). The funds which had been in escrow since the beginning of the dispute will be evenly divided between the tribes and the state.
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Granholm, Little River Band of Ottawa Indians, Little Traverse Bay Bands of Odawa Indians Announce Club Keno Settlement LANSING – Governor Jennifer M. Granholm, the Little River Band of Ottawa Indians and the Little Traverse Bay Bands of Odawa Indians today announced a settlement in a long-standing lawsuit over the state lottery’s Club Keno game. The agreement settles the question of whether Club Keno terminated the tribes’ obligation to pay a portion of their tribal casino revenues to the Michigan Strategic Fund (MSF). “This agreement restores funds vital to Michigan’s economic development efforts at this critical time and will help ensure a more stable and cooperative economic relationship between the state and these two tribal governments,” Granholm said. “The tribe is pleased to be able to bring this question to a close,” Little River Band of Ottawa Indians Ogema Chief Larry Romanelli said.“The settlement allows both the tribes and state to work together for our mutual future while respecting the sovereignty of each side.” “I am excited about the cooperative spirit that enabled this settlement,” Little Traverse Bay Bands of Odawa Indians Tribal Chairman Frank Ettawageshik said.“We have many tough economic challenges that are much easier to work through when we all work together.” The Little River Band and Little Traverse Bay Bands both entered into gaming compacts with the state in 1998. In these compacts, the tribes agreed to pay 8 percent of their net win on slot machines to the MSF but only for so long as the state did not permit new gaming competition by other persons anywhere in the state. In 2004, after the Michigan Lottery introduced Club Keno, both tribes suspended payments to the MSF, claiming the Club Keno game was a new gaming competition that terminated their payment obligation under their compacts. When negotiations failed to resolve the dispute, the state filed suit in federal court. Under the settlement agreement announced today, the percentage of slot machine revenues paid by the tribes will be reduced to 6 percent in most cases. In return, the tribes have agreed to
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changes in their revenue sharing agreements that will make those payments more stable in the future. Specifically: • Gaming exclusivity will no longer be measured on a state-wide basis but will instead be based on a more limited market area for each tribe – generally nine to ten county areas in the immediate vicinity of each tribe’s casino. This means that new commercial gaming activities elsewhere in the state will no longer result in the termination of payments. • Lottery and other similar activities by the state will not be considered to be new commercial gaming unless they involve large scale use of electronic machines; • If new commercial gaming does occur within one of the tribe’s market areas, it will no longer result in permanent termination of payments; instead payments are suspended and can later be reinstated at a reduced rate if the tribe’s casino business continues to grow. The changes made to the revenue sharing agreement were accomplished by amendments to each of the tribe’s gaming compacts. Under the terms of those compacts, such amendments require the approval of the governor, the tribe, and the Secretary of the Interior. The governor and the tribes approved the compact amendments on February 27; the Department of Interior has now issued a letter advising that it will permit the amendments to take effect. Their gaming compacts also require both of the tribes to pay 2 percent of their net win to local units of government; these payments are not affected by the settlement. The settlement agreement filed today also provides for distribution of approximately $55 million paid into escrow by the tribes during the dispute. Under the agreement, the funds escrowed by each tribe will be divided evenly between the state and the tribe.
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So most of you will only read the last line and get pissed off.....reread they indians gave up their STATE wide excusivity...This is major because when the new one opens in wayland or new buffalo the state would have lost funds...Now they get to keep them ....
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Ryan
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dan r wrote: <quoted text> Trish, thank you so much for your comments. I dont know what i would do without you and others like you,concerned about me and telling me how i should live my life. Oh ya, i forget. You are SO much smarter than me. If it weren't for you, who knows where i would be? A little advice here, FOCUS ON YOUR OWN FAMILY!! and leave the rest of us alone! Were sorry dan for being concerned about others welfare. Maybe we fear that the casino will bring in more crime, somehting this area does not need. What about people who spend more money they don't have and then have to live off welfare supported by the taxpayers, which is more money we don't have. Maybe we don't want to see mom and dad spend all their time and money at the slots instead of feeding their children. You are being hypocritical in telling others to not tell you waht to do when by making that statement you are doing the very samething you are complaining about. I live my by being concerned about others and the community around me. If you choose to put up a wall and not care about anyone outside of your circle then I truly pity you.
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happy voter
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I am so happy for the tribe. Finally it looks as if they will get to push forward. I will look forward to the jobs that they bring; not just in the casino, in hotels, in restaurants, in retail shops, etc... Those of us who actually live down by the casino would welcome not driving 40 minutes to GR and KZoo for work daily. As for those who worry about people getting themselves in debt, it's not the governments place to play "mommy"; how about personal responsibility!
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I think
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Friggen awesome. Another place for poor Michigan people to become even more poor.
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Michael
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Casinos have a subtle destructive influence wherever they are. It is found in families where parents spend grocery money in a vain attempt at unearned riches. Lives are destroyed by the false hopes that casinos advertise. Experts will confirm that the odds of winning are slim to none. The only true beneficiaries are the casino owners. Responsible elected officials will work to protect society from this blight.
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Local Supporter
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The opposition has delayed this revenue stream for far too long. Anybody who is entertaining voting for Todd Boorsma for State Senate should use this example to see that he aligns himself with non-win situations. Remember this come November.
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Doc Boston
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In Massachusetts, our dear guvnuh' Deval Patrick (now known as "Casino Deval Patrick, or Coupe Deville Patrick") didn't even show up when the vote took place to approve gambling in our state. This was his way of solving the state's financial issues... gambling. CT is successful, so he figured we could play that game too. My blogged suggestion in MA was to look at Michigan, and how some of the casinos in Michigan hold the state gov't for ransom, refusing to pay the state, or putting state owed monies into an escrow somewhere until the casino gets their way. If Wayland builds a casino, yes, it will create two types of jobs.. construction jobs and low income casino jobs. It will also force Wayland to upgrade their infrastructure to support the traffic, power and waste (yes, both types) generated by the casino and its visitors. Others will say that it will bring new crime to Wayland. It would be worth someone's time to look at the other casinos that already exist in MI, and study the crime impacts they have had on the towns where they are built.(Detroit is an exception to this.) Idon't think that Canadian gamblers will travel to Wayland, unless it's a mega-casino... but that's doubtful. Personally, I am against casinos.. and not because I'm a Grand Rapids bible thumping religious fanatic. When Mrs. Canada-in-office gets involved, and sees that she will lose prescious revenue, she'll find some other way to get the money she's already spent in her head. Good luck!
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Mark
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dan r wrote: <quoted text> Trish, thank you so much for your comments. I dont know what i would do without you and others like you,concerned about me and telling me how i should live my life. Oh ya, i forget. You are SO much smarter than me. If it weren't for you, who knows where i would be? A little advice here, FOCUS ON YOUR OWN FAMILY!! and leave the rest of us alone! Let me guess, you're not very good at math, are you? You do realize that the lottery and gambling are just taxes on people who are bad at math, right?
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none too happy
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What about the jobs "created". The casinos are not part of the state of Michigan. They are on tribal land, and they do not have to play by the same rules as other businesses in the state. This unfair advantage allows them to sell cheaper, pay employees less and not have to deal with all of the regulations others live with. within 2 years of opening all of the other restaurants, bars etc in the area will be in big trouble and you will all be wondering "how did this happen" Wake up and realize that this is about the money being promised to short sighted politicians and that the welfare of the area is being sold down the river.
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lightning
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none too happy wrote: What about the jobs "created". The casinos are not part of the state of Michigan. They are on tribal land, and they do not have to play by the same rules as other businesses in the state. This unfair advantage allows them to sell cheaper, pay employees less and not have to deal with all of the regulations others live with. within 2 years of opening all of the other restaurants, bars etc in the area will be in big trouble and you will all be wondering "how did this happen" Wake up and realize that this is about the money being promised to short sighted politicians and that the welfare of the area is being sold down the river. Please explain yourself in more detail with the following..."This unfair advantage allows them to sell cheaper, pay employees less" I take it you already know what the selling price of all the venders already are as well as the wage scale will be? Here's a question for you? What is the average wage for the dealers be? Any idea? Anyone? I'll wait for the guesses and the tell you what I make as a dealer.
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