Lorraine Theater may CLOSE! Help!

Lorraine Theater may CLOSE! Help!

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Jdc

Waltham, MA

#1 Jul 24, 2010
This summer has not been kind to our beloved Lorraine Theater.
While always having the number one movie all summer, attendance is down nearly 50% for the month of July 2010 vs 2009. That is considered the heart of the summertime rush, and the overall movie business is up slightly for the year.
The question is; when was the last time you went to the Lorraine? Why or why not?
My Thoughts

Hoopeston, IL

#2 Jul 24, 2010
I took my family to see Toy Story3 recently. It seemed like there was a fairly good gathering that day. But I will say this...I understand inflation & the need to raise prices to keep up. However, paying for my family group of 4, with the token popcorn & drinks, of course, it did lighten my wallet $50.00. That being said, I do realize it's still slightly less than the Danville, the atmosphere is divine, & losing it would be a tragedy.
On the other hand, I also have to say that at $50 a pop to take my family, this is certainly something we can only do occasionally, no more often than every other month, at best. I also can't ever find listings for matinee shows (it seems difficult to get specific information, I'm afraid, or I just haven't discovered the proper outlet to find it)
A few years ago while passing through, I took my kids to see something there & was able to get a military discount. The last couple of times we've gone, that was not offered.
I'd really hate to see the theater go. Such a loss that would be! But as this forum consistently points out, there's not a lot of money here. I wonder if it would be to the theater's benefit to lower prices at LEAST on the concessions, because that seems to be where I felt the impact (AND decided in the future that we would have to bring our own M&M's). I'm sure we were not the only ones with that thought, unfortunately, & I know that's where a large profit is made. But rather than risk losing that profit altogether, it may do well to reduce that & potentially open the gate for more of us poor folk living here to frequent the theater more often...ultimately increasing your profit in the long run by increasing attendance.
If you think about it, for years people in all these small surrounding communities have driven all the way to Danville for movie night. Is there any reason we couldn't draw the DANVILLE movie-goers to our fabulous Lorraine by offering not only the best sound system in the state, but also the most appealing price3s in the state? It's not going to turn around over night, but we can't throw in the towel yet! An advertising blitz is in order here!
just my thoughts...
JDC

United States

#3 Jul 25, 2010
Good ideas there, I wanted to address a few of them.

For your showtimes, the best and easiest place to find all of the Lorraine Showtimes are at www.CineMajesticLTD.com . Yes, its a complicated name but with all of the changes in owners here the last two years, the obvious things like lorrainetheater.com etc are still tied up by the old people. But that website is run by the theater so its always right.

On the prices, we do sell a Movie and Snack Value Pack, which is 4 anytime tickets, a Large Popcorn and a Large Drink for $24. Those are on sale all the time at the theater.

But I think saying they're "slightly" lower really isn't fair. The Lorraine prices are MUCH lower...here's some comparisons;

On Snacks;
Large Popcorn: Danville =$7, Lorraine =$4.75
Large Drink: Danville =$5, Lorraine =$3.25
The Lorraine also offers the Lorraine Special, which is a Large Popcorn, two large drinks, plus unlimited refills on those and a free candy of your choice for $11.75. There's nothing like that with anything free to compare at Danville. I don't think a 35%-45% discount is just slight.

On Tickets:
Adult ticket in the evening, Danville =$8, Lorraine =$6.75
Matinees, weekends&holidays: Danville=before noon, Lorraine=before 6pm
Senior Discount: Danville=NONE, Lorraine =$5.75--THAT'S RIGHT! If a senior citizen DARES to see a movie in Danville after 12 noon on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday or a Holiday, they have to pay the FULL $8!
So again, you're talking about discounts from 25%-almost 40% there based on the age of the moviegoer.

As for the "profits made on the snackbar"..the movie studios do take the extreme lions share on the tickets...if you're lucky, you might be able to pay your electric bill off of whats left from the tickets...but the snackbar does have to pay for EVERYTHING else. And believe me when I say be it tickets or snackbar, there are NO profits being made at the Lorraine.

An advertising campaign also is an interesting idea, we have done newspaper ads and do regular radio advertising. Set aside how expensive an advertising campaign would be, it takes more then just a theater to make people come. We need somewhere for them to have dinner as well, and somewhere near the theater. But what do we do then here in Hoopeston? "Come see a movie and get a Big Mac at McDonalds!"??
Sorry

United States

#4 Jul 28, 2010
If i go to Danville to see a movie, I will spend far more money. However, I can go to a late screening where children aren't allowed, guaranteeing that their are not children running down the aisles, talking on cell phones and texting. This is exactly what I have experienced the last three times I've TRIED to support local businesses and enjoy a movie at the Lorraine.

At a time when I can rent unlimited movies and TV shows from Netflix for $9 a month, I don't see any reason why I should spend money so I can be disappointed when I can't even enjoy the film. The ladies working there try their best, but parents bring in groups of 9 kids and ask if they can drop them off. I'm sure alot of people in Hoopeston don't mind this but I do, and I sure as hell wouldn't drive from another town to sit through it.

It's true that the Danville and Champaign theaters cost alot more, but they're also willing to kick out disruptive people. You can argue that this isn't a dealbreaker and can't be the problem, but the expensive theaters don't seem to be having any problems filling seats do they?

Start enforcing the rules on a regular basis and with no exceptions, and profits will eventually go up. I probably will not be returning to the Lorraine theater anytime soon because, despite repeated efforts, I have never enjoyed a movie there.
outraged

Sun City, CA

#6 Jul 30, 2010
I agree somewhat here. The mildew smell is very noticable, but on the other hand I can outlive that since it is so close. I would rather go to Lorrained then have to drive. I do miss not having nachos offered but that is minor. I don't think Lorraine is a bad place at all. Let me think on suggestions for business. That is what i do for a living.
Theater Bash

United States

#7 Jul 30, 2010
Well, let me say this, I would drive to Lafayette Indiana before I would spend a dime in that theater. Let me see if I can tell you why, 1) the owner is a tight wade, will not turn the heat on in the winter above freeze out. 2) A/C forget it. 3) toilets are something that I would not let my dog use, 4) and that is when the toilets are open for the public to use. I am sick and tired of hearing the owner in the council meetings crying oh how bad for me,me,me, and one of the council members encouraging him on. Maybe the two of them should get together and run the theater in the ground father. Okay I am done bashing. No I will never set foot in either theater of Hoopeston as long as the owner who owns it now has the property. If he goes then maybe... Good Luck ME ME ME baby!!!!
KBB

Waterloo, IA

#8 Aug 1, 2010
I went to the Lorraine (2) last weekend actually and unfortunately had to leave because it was so hot in the building I thought I was either going to puke or pass out.
Before that, I went to see Jennifer's Body.
Had no problems at all that night and really enjoyed it. Between Jennifer's Body and Inception, there just hadn't been any movies in-between that really caught my attention.
I don't think there's a problem at all with the Lorraine's prices. I think they're perfectly fine and lower than any other theater. There just aren't that many movies that I've found all that interesting this year.
Dave

United States

#9 Aug 3, 2010
Well, after reading what I've read here I'll never go back. I guess the owner doesn't want to provide Hoopeston with a movie theater that doesn't smell musty, is temperature controlled, and is not used as a baby sitting service. He obviously doesn't give a crap about anything but the bottom line, heck maybe I should set up a projector and screen in my garage and start charging people, IT CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE ANY WORSE!!!
Pdobbs

Frisco, TX

#10 Aug 6, 2010
You guys really are unbelievable!

The owner of the theater put over $75000 of his money into the theater since he bought it, with brand new seats which no one before ever has done here. He brought the big marquee light flashers back to life, and repainted and cleaned up everything. If he was all about the bottom line then why do any of these things? My neighbors kid worked there when the last guy sold the place and laid everyone off, and the old guy was paying them just $6 an hour. The new owner hired all of them back and paid them $7.75 an hour.

If the owner only cared about the bottom line then the prices would be higher instead of the lowest in the area. He did a thing in the winter where people brought in cans of food for the food bank and we got a free popcorn for them, hows that all about the bottom line? He wouldn't let the schools and local theater group and chamber of commerce use the place free of charge for performances and events, he wouldn't have provided a series of free movies for the kids in this town either. That too is something no one else has ever done for us before.

All these comments are just incorrect...one guy says he misses having nachos...they have nachos at the Lorraine! The old owners took them out, he brought them back. The main auditorium has a huge air conditioning system that works great. The one at the little second theater doesn't work well, but movies are only shown down at the little one when they're really old. Does that make it great, no but at least those are the facts. I've lived here long enough to know if the guy "won't run the heat above freezeout" then i wouldve heard about it from locals here face to face, not just anonymous complainers.

If any of you really do live in town then we should be rallying behind our theater so we don't lose it....what else do we have thats special here in hoopeston? What else is there for our kids to do that's on the level? No one else is gonna come to this place and run the theater. Screw the owner if you have some personal problem with him but let's keep our theater otherwise were just rossville with an Iga.

After reading all this musty/mildew talk I went there today and asked them about it. The manager guy, the big guy produced an inspection report that shows there NO mold, and that the smell is merely the smell of the place...it's almost 90 years old after all. You wanna talk about smells? Check out the bathrooms in the Danville movies...they're disgusting, no one seems to mention that. I asked about the bathrooms too...they just in the last few weeks redid the mens room..new toilet, no more urinal and it's improved.

And If you're too cold then wear a jacket? If kids are unruly as ALL kids are at times at ALL theaters, then tell the staff? I've seen them throw people out, at a show of nightmare on elm street. Is the place perfect, no..but it's not bad, they make an effort, the prices are the cheapest around and they even have $3 shows with double features on Mondays now.

I think everyone commenting here just hasn't gone in a long time and made their minds up already. Let's really try to be a community and pull together and keep our theater going.
Mirandized

Hoopeston, IL

#11 Aug 6, 2010
Pdobbs...Maybe YOU should get your facts straight. I never said "mold". Everyone has the right to an opinion. Likewise, I guess that maybe had you done your own research you would know that Cadle didn't single-handedly show the children's movies. There were other businesses, parties, organizations (whatever you might deem them)involved in that. Yes, the chilren enjoy them. Geeshhhh! Oh and you are anonymous like we are so how are you any different?
Pdobbs

Dallas, TX

#12 Aug 6, 2010
Miranda,

He did Monster House on Halloween 2008 for free, there were no sponsors involved with that. Check your facts!

You'd rather wait three weeks and spend the $$$ on the gas to and from savoy to save some money on popcorn? I guess it's more about you then your teenage kids you mentioned. They're not gonna have the Lorraine to go to anymore soon.
Mirandized

Hoopeston, IL

#13 Aug 7, 2010
I'm fine with that. Wow 1 event free... whooo hooo. What about my teenage kids? You step out of line about that and we are gonna have some fun! Yep sure, it's all about ME because that's the way it is when you are trying to raise a decent FAMILY in these tough economic times! My point was that I would rather make the drive because there the dollar bill goes much farther when you do have a family!
Pdobbs

Dallas, TX

#14 Aug 7, 2010
All the gas plus the discounted cost makes it more expensive to drive that far. The Lorraine has that value pack of 4 anytime tickets and popcorn and soda with refills for $24. You can use it on an opening day too. And they've got $3 shows all day Mondays, $4.75 shows on sat and sun and double feature mondays too. When u figure in gas it's cheaper to just go to the Lorraine so sorry your family dollar line is an excuse.
Mirandized

Hoopeston, IL

#15 Aug 7, 2010
Geesh, really?
Pdobbs

United States

#16 Aug 9, 2010
Well it's Monday and it's double feature for $3...I'm only a little interested in the movie but hey 4 hours of movies in an air conditioned theater for $3? I'm going tonight and hope anyone else who wants us to keep our theater does too!
GFY

United States

#17 Aug 10, 2010
Really, good luck and I mean that. Poor community, no money, high taxes, state bankrupt, no jobs. Good luck.
Threater Bash 2

United States

#18 Aug 11, 2010
Well, P dodds doesn't have his facts straight either, the children shows were paid for through an agreement with the sponsors of those shows. Geesh, guess if they are going to beg for help better give all the facts up front before the whining to everyone to give their support because it will come out in the wash
So Stupid

Arlington, TX

#19 Aug 12, 2010
Pdobbs wrote:
You guys really are unbelievable!
The owner of the theater put over $75000 of his money into the theater since he bought it, with brand new seats which no one before ever has done here. He brought the big marquee light flashers back to life, and repainted and cleaned up everything. If he was all about the bottom line then why do any of these things? My neighbors kid worked there when the last guy sold the place and laid everyone off, and the old guy was paying them just $6 an hour. The new owner hired all of them back and paid them $7.75 an hour.

And If you're too cold then wear a jacket? If kids are unruly as ALL kids are at times at ALL theaters, then tell the staff? I've seen them throw people out, at a show of nightmare on elm street. Is the place perfect, no..but it's not bad, they make an effort, the prices are the cheapest around and they even have $3 shows with double features on Mondays now.
I think everyone commenting here just hasn't gone in a long time and made their minds up already. Let's really try to be a community and pull together and keep our theater going.
First of all,$6 and $7.75 an hour are both below the federal minimum wage, which means he's breaking the law. If someone really wanted to shut down your theater they'd call the dept. of labor.
Bottom Line: It smells bad and it's always full of kids who are acting up. You mention Nightmare on Elm St.?? That's funny because I went and ATTEMPTED TO SEE that movie Iwas prevented from doing so by kids running up and down the aisles, on their cell phones, yelling across the theater, etc. The people who work their 'tried" to get them under control, but never did anything but walk up the aisles to "show" me they were "trying".
You're bascially telling us to support a business just for the heck of it, which I refuse to do. Maybe if the Lorraine had a late show for adults only I would go alot more. The fact is I almost asked for my money back last time, and I'm not going to pay for a bad experience.
I suppose you'd eat at a restaurant that you knew had roaches just so that restaurant didn't close. That makes no sense. Wouldn't you rather have a good business in your town then ten bad ones that don't even provide service?
Maybe if the owners paid their employees MINIMUM WAGE, they'd care a little more about the customers. In the meanwhile, the Lorraine could close tommorrow and the town would have lost what? 3 under the table jobs that pay less then your kids allowance?
Pdobbs

United States

#20 Aug 13, 2010
So stupid..proper choice of name for yourself by the way...

$7.75 was the minimum wage in Illinois in 2008, when he bought the place, and raised what the previous owner was paying at $6 an hour to the legal wage of $7.75. Please call the dept of employment so they too can laugh at you for your complete lack of knowledge.

If the staff was walking up and down the aisles then they were looking for anyone acting up to deal with them. If they don't catch someone doing something then they can't just throw them out. If someone came up to you and asked you to leave if they didn't see you do anything wrong and just because someone else said you did, then you'd not take kindly to that either. Did you say anything to the staff when they walked past you about any of these persons? Nope, you just sat there and took it and whined later because somehow the staff couldn't read your mind.

And to all of you with this adults only show idea, a business cannot discriminate against anyone based merely on age. Is that a newsflash?
Amy Catron-McCarty

Champaign, IL

#21 Aug 14, 2010
Ok guys, Im using my real name here. First of all, annonymity leads to people acting childish and bashing. There is no reason for it.
Secondly, Im going to assume most, if not all of us are adults in this forum. Therefore, ever heard of the saying "it takes a village to raise a child?" So therefore, why haven't you yourselves spoken up. Kids will run all over adults if you let them. Speak up, let them know you are there. Point fingers and tell them to sit down and shut up. Yeah, you're gonna get the whole "make me", but what can it hurt. I've done it many times.
Third - that theater has smelled OLD since I was a little kid. Thats the smell, and there's no mold. To be honest, its what makes it historical. Too much change and it wouldn't be able to hold that title anymore. I understand that it does affect some people, and I don't have an answer for that unfortunately. Some smells affect me as well.
Fourth - prices. This is by far the cheapest deals around. I know some are saying its still too expensive. Take advantage of the bargain deals. If you are from out of town, plan this trip, purchase the bargain deals and use them.
Fifth - the temperature. No one will ever be comfortable in a theater. Let's face it. Every single one I have visited, even in the heat of the summer, I bring a sweatshirt. Your temperature, if you were to choose your comfort zone, more than likely still wouldn't suit 90% of the other movie goers.
Simple facts everyone. Instead of thinking about yourselves for once, think about the theater. Think about the town. Can we all pull together to help out, or are we all gonna gripe and fight, while our theater goes dark forever. Then, whats left for the kids?
You have to understand, the owner is losing big time just by giving a few more attempts to keep the theater open. He has no ties to Hoopeston. He is doing this for the town... what is stopping him from packing up and closing up shop? After all of these comments, and the way people are acting, you should be ashamed of yourselves. You can't fix problems in the theater, if theres no money coming in TO fix it.
So, please. Give the theater another chance. Take it upon yourselves to save this theater. Offer suggestions to Mr Caudle, instead of criticism. With everything we are losing these days and having to possibly live through some nasty times... bring it back home. Lets try to keep a cheap theater to go to. And remember, with the unruly children, it takes a village.:)
Here's hoping your next experience is a good one, and lets do this!

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