Vacation rentals not the culprit in Laie woes - Hawaii Editorials

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Brigham Young University Hawaii President Dr. Steven Wheelwright is right about much-needed city/state support for the school's expansion and building affordable housing in North Laie .

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Kevin Schlag

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The statistics show that in 2000, 79% of home sales in Ko'olau Loa were to local (within Ko'olau Loa) addresses. In 2008, that number was 47%.

Sales of houses in the region in 2000 to mainland addresses were 9%. In 2008, that number was 29%.

Sales to addresses in Hawaii, other than Ko'olau Loa, were 12% in 2000, and 24% in 2008.

So it's not necessarily the bed/breakfast argument.

Source here:
http://www.envisionlaie.com/wp-content/downlo...

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"BYUH President Dr. Steven Wheelwright is right about much-needed city/state support for the school's expansion and building affordable housing in North Laie. The area desperately needs the economic stimulus the expansion will bring....The Koolau Loa region hosts 137 vacation rentals ( VRBO.com ), or 3.8 percent of 3,618 homes. How could such trivial loss of homes have led to a family-splitting housing crisis in Laie?"

Well, the bigger issue is second homes. Nowdays, most of the homes in our area are not purchased by people who live and work out here. Last year more than half of the home sales in Ko'olauloa went to people who don't live or work out here!
Diverting the Real issues

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READ THE FINE PRINT. Do you know that Envision Laie contains vacation rentals and second homes too? Vacation homes are illegal. Is BYU and HRI above the law? Is it because they have a powerful friend Mayor Hannemann at city hall?
You cannot believe every newspaper and consultant's print.
Read the comments section to get a better idea.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.d...
http://www.starbulletin.com/editorials/200909...
http://www.IndependentKamaaina.blogspot.com
http://www.LaieTalk.com
Local Boy

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Kevin Schlag wrote:
The statistics show that in 2000, 79% of home sales in Ko'olau Loa were to local (within Ko'olau Loa) addresses. In 2008, that number was 47%.
Sales of houses in the region in 2000 to mainland addresses were 9%. In 2008, that number was 29%.
Sales to addresses in Hawaii, other than Ko'olau Loa, were 12% in 2000, and 24% in 2008.
So it's not necessarily the bed/breakfast argument.
Source here:
http://www.envisionlaie.com/wp-content/downlo...
Bro. in Laie, the 10t past sales - 70% were bought by local Laie/Hauula residents/2 mainland Mormons. Locals hui together and bought fixer-ups 'cause they never want to depend on HRI. You think Laie residents can afford HRI's 1200 homes in 10 years? They have been promising for 20 years already.

Your brochure looks like one PCC tourist promotion. You guys think we are a bunch of kindergarteners. You throw a colorful brochure with lots of pictures and we are going to eat it all up.LOL.

More honest details like what is the affordable price. Leasehold or fee simple. Do I need to sell back to house to HRI?

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Kevin Schlag wrote:
The statistics show that in 2000, 79% of home sales in Ko'olau Loa were to local (within Ko'olau Loa) addresses. In 2008, that number was 47%.
Sales of houses in the region in 2000 to mainland addresses were 9%. In 2008, that number was 29%.
Sales to addresses in Hawaii, other than Ko'olau Loa, were 12% in 2000, and 24% in 2008.
So it's not necessarily the bed/breakfast argument.
Source here:
http://www.envisionlaie.com/wp-content/downlo...
Bro. My partner just told me you work for BYU and you on the invisbile Laie Community Association Board. I got one question for you bro. Are you promoting this Envision Laie or are your representing the Laie ordinary people? Plenty people in Laie sick and tired of HRI's broken promises. Cannot HRI anymore. LCA just carry water for HRI.
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Local Boy wrote:
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More honest details like what is the affordable price.
"Affordable price?" When they say that they can hardly manage it with a straight face. Affordable if you have thirty co-signers and thirty incomes, all with unverifiable foreign names.
Unionize BYU PCC

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Form a UNION. Get Good Pay. Get a House.
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Kevin Schlag wrote:
The statistics show that in 2000, 79% of home sales in Ko'olau Loa were to local (within Ko'olau Loa) addresses. In 2008, that number was 47%.
Sales of houses in the region in 2000 to mainland addresses were 9%. In 2008, that number was 29%.
Sales to addresses in Hawaii, other than Ko'olau Loa, were 12% in 2000, and 24% in 2008.
So it's not necessarily the bed/breakfast argument.
Source here:
http://www.envisionlaie.com/wp-content/downlo...
Bro, you good with numbers. You in the Laie Community Association Board. Pls answer the question below 'cause Pane Meatoga LCA President no like answer. This one from the http://www.IndependentKamaaina.blogspot.com


August 17, 2009 9:21 PM
Anonymous Where is the $300,000.00? said...

Hey, I don't care about the $100 HRI's consultants were giving to some people in Laie.

But I do care about the $300,000.00
that the Laie Community Association received from the fee conversion with HRI. We all had to pay 1% of our fee price or $1500 to LCA.

Where is the $300,000.00

What has LCA done with it?

Show me the money and the balance sheet.

August 18, 2009 4:47 PM
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Who is Paul Swart

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Swart, Paul 3470 Canyon Creek Drive San Jose CA 95132 3/23/09 $300.00 $300.00
I google him and found his contribution to Ikaika Andersen, city council. Writer obviously is pro-vacation rentals. What connection does he have with BYU-Hawaii?
Funny how mainlanders and Washington D.C. based Envision Laie Consultants RCLCO know better than us islands who have lived here for generations.
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Great article. Also, I love Kevin's comments. Thanks Kevin! It's amazing how much we need this help in our area. Can't wait for the housing to go up to support our community's needs. Our needs are finally understood and a sensible plan that preserves the country is in process. GREAT NEWS!
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I've seen plans come and go over the past 20 years of living in Laie. I hope they are serious this time. Anyway, it's a good start and I like the direction it is headed. However, I'm waiting to see more of the details.
Build More BYU Dorms

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Build more BYU Dorms! Plenty of room on large Campus! Then much more Housing for Locals!

**there 2 different Topix Forums for this 1 Editorial ?
Laie vs Kaaawa Punaluu

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The LOCAL voice wrote:
Great article. Also, I love Kevin's comments. Thanks Kevin! It's amazing how much we need this help in our area. Can't wait for the housing to go up to support our community's needs. Our needs are finally understood and a sensible plan that preserves the country is in process. GREAT NEWS!
You said "OUR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS" !!!

LAIE VS Kahana, Kaaawa, Punaluu,Hauula, Kahuku,Waihole,

How about your OHANA who needs to get to work on Kam Hwy ?? Grabbing for YOUR COMMUNITY will ruin all of our Communities!

Gridlock Traffic! Overcrowded Beaches with thousands of more BYU students, families & staff!

We beat most LOCALS won't even get a home!
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Laie vs Kaaawa Punaluu wrote:
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You said "OUR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS" !!!
LAIE VS Kahana, Kaaawa, Punaluu,Hauula, Kahuku,Waihole,
How about your OHANA who needs to get to work on Kam Hwy ?? Grabbing for YOUR COMMUNITY will ruin all of our Communities!
Gridlock Traffic! Overcrowded Beaches with thousands of more BYU students, families & staff!
We beat most LOCALS won't even get a home!
Not to mention your property taxes. Can the schools, elementary, middle and Kahuku HS handle an influx of students? What about your hospital, aren't they closing Kaaawa Elementary? Wasn't Kahuku Hospital in trouble a little while ago? How good is medical care in your communities? Building houses and not look to what the impact will be for not only Laie, but the surrounding communities is just plain selfish. New housing brings with it more traffic, and in these communities, one way in, one way out, homes built practically on the highway, it will be difficult to widen, but even widening will not help with the congestion, and crime WILL rise,taxes WILL rise. You outlying communities better wake up and be heard when HRI starts the machine going, IT IS GOING TO AFFECT YOU...Get your Neighborhood Boards together and start your planning.
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The LOCAL voice wrote:
Great article. Also, I love Kevin's comments. Thanks Kevin! It's amazing how much we need this help in our area. Can't wait for the housing to go up to support our community's needs. Our needs are finally understood and a sensible plan that preserves the country is in process. GREAT NEWS!
Going for that promotion and raise, eh?
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Who is Paul Swart wrote:
Swart, Paul 3470 Canyon Creek Drive San Jose CA 95132 3/23/09 $300.00 $300.00
I google him and found his contribution to Ikaika Andersen, city council. Writer obviously is pro-vacation rentals. What connection does he have with BYU-Hawaii?
Funny how mainlanders and Washington D.C. based Envision Laie Consultants RCLCO know better than us islands who have lived here for generations.
"Paul Swart plans to retire in Laie where he owns a second home."

I get the big picture. So between now and the time he retires, he wants the city to allow vacation rentals? Him and Envision Laie and more vacation rentals and second homes. Could this be about $$$$$
Raise Local Incomes

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Only raising local incomes will truely solve the housing problem.

Kids need to to College www.Knowhow2go.org

More Locals need to use their Gifts & Talents and start their own Businesses: Internet Business, Music, Gourmet Food, Ag-Tourism, Fashion Design, Local Restuarants, Taxi Service, Gym, Youth Center- our Communities need alot.

Promote Good Film & TV Jobs here.

Too many Vacation Homes & too many visitors (& visiting students) is overcrowding & ruining Hawaii & damaging our Tourist Industry!
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Not to mention your property taxes. Can the schools, elementary, middle and Kahuku HS handle an influx of students? What about your hospital, aren't they closing Kaaawa Elementary? Wasn't Kahuku Hospital in trouble a little while ago? How good is medical care in your communities? Building houses and not look to what the impact will be for not only Laie, but the surrounding communities is just plain selfish. New housing brings with it more traffic, and in these communities, one way in, one way out, homes built practically on the highway, it will be difficult to widen, but even widening will not help with the congestion, and crime WILL rise,taxes WILL rise. You outlying communities better wake up and be heard when HRI starts the machine going, IT IS GOING TO AFFECT YOU...Get your Neighborhood Boards together and start your planning.
Ahwe! The Neighborhood Board was just taken over by Pro-Big Development-mostly Mormons! Only 6% of the people in Koolau Loa District voted in July.(Just in our area people were allowed to use HI Public Library cards to Vote!!??? See: HONOLULU WEEKLY...visitors can easily get an HI Library card...)

All of Oahu needs to speak out to KEEP THE COUNTRY, COUNTRY!
Destroy HI Tourism

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omg wrote:
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Not to mention your property taxes. Can the schools, elementary, middle and Kahuku HS handle an influx of students? What about your hospital, aren't they closing Kaaawa Elementary? Wasn't Kahuku Hospital in trouble a little while ago? How good is medical care in your communities? Building houses and not look to what the impact will be for not only Laie, but the surrounding communities is just plain selfish. New housing brings with it more traffic, and in these communities, one way in, one way out, homes built practically on the highway, it will be difficult to widen, but even widening will not help with the congestion, and crime WILL rise,taxes WILL rise. You outlying communities better wake up and be heard when HRI starts the machine going, IT IS GOING TO AFFECT YOU...Get your Neighborhood Boards together and start your planning.
Envision Laie will destroy HI's Tourist Industry with such massive overcrowding in such a scenic spot like the North Shore.
The narrow Kam Hwy from Kaneohe to Haleiwi will be a PARKING LOT! Tourists will not fly all the way to Hawaii to sit in traffic, see cement & be on overcrowded beaches!
Keeping it Country is Smart Development for Oahu!

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