Web page for DUI arrests criticized - Hawaii News

The Honolulu Police Department's plans to post the names and photos of alleged drunken drivers on a new Web page have disturbed some attorneys, who say it's unconstitutional and will infringe on the person's right to a fair trial. Full Story
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enufalready

Kihei, HI

#1 Nov 19, 2009
This tactic will either not happen or will be stopped within a very short time. The surprise is that the experience of the Nassau PD on Long Island NY was not researched; had it been, HPD would have learned that the nascent photographic stockade was slammed out of practice because of its unconstitutionality. Convicted DUI faces may be displayed but not images of those who have been arrested but not proven guilty in a court of law. The American way and all that.
willie

Farmington, MI

#2 Nov 19, 2009
Someone ask the lawyers if it is ok to post pictures of people killed by an as yet convicted drunk drivers......

Don't want to be embarrassed, don't drink and drive.
LOL

Honolulu, HI

#3 Nov 19, 2009
If the website says, "These people have been arrested for the suspicion of DUI. They are innocent until proven guilty," what's unconstitutional about that? Newspapers publish pics of murder suspects, etc. I think the threat of public embarrassment might cause some people to think twice about DUI.
the thai kid

Bangkok, Thailand

#4 Nov 19, 2009
the police on oahu hawaii are gestapo american ....they lie and take advantage of the poor minority class They are conformists and brainwashed The crime rate flourish on oahu...the courts and judges are ...i was a police burtality on oahu...i m a haloe and they racial profile us cause we are minority and not from hawaii...thier lucky i never sue them for the police brutality case.......nazi gestapo pigs
Congratulations

Honolulu, HI

#5 Nov 19, 2009
The accused/convicted distinction is a valid.

I believe HPD intended to do the right thing but were merely ill advised by Mufi's Corporation Counsel hacks that apparently provided advice to HPD.

To post photos of those CONVICTED, following due process, including trial, would withstand the criticism of even those leveled by criminal defense attorneys.

But, to be advised by the Corporation Counsel or any other attorney telling HPD that it's okay to post the photos of those merely ACCUSED,(BUT NOT CONVICTED), only invites suit for money damages IF those individuals are subjsequently NOT found to be guilty.

HPD should tailor its proposal to meet such concerns, constitutional or otherwise, then post only those convicted.
danny

Pearl City, HI

#6 Nov 19, 2009
only a matter of time before there is a slam dunk wrongful arrest and the law suit that follows

hope nobody out there thinks there are no bad cops that aren't doing there job correctly --- what about the HPD clowns smokin dope and running from Vegas police?
danny

Pearl City, HI

#7 Nov 19, 2009
LOL wrote:
If the website says, "These people have been arrested for the suspicion of DUI. They are innocent until proven guilty," what's unconstitutional about that? Newspapers publish pics of murder suspects, etc. I think the threat of public embarrassment might cause some people to think twice about DUI.
a duh ... an involuntary picture taken in a cell block following a wrongful arrest that is broadcast as punishment (there is no other explanation for the broadcast than pre-conviction punishment)

sheez, some of you folks (including HPD lawyers) just don't have a clue
danny

Pearl City, HI

#8 Nov 19, 2009
in our system --- judges order punishment

when the cops start dishing out the punishment --- the system has gone sour
Fail

United States

#9 Nov 19, 2009
Duh...guilty ones only.

And start with drug dealers or something first.
swannie

Ocean View, HI

#10 Nov 19, 2009
I think Fall is on to a good idea. If you get convicted of ANYTHING , your picture and your address should be published. Some folks could care less about jail but shaming their families is a different story.
swannie

Ocean View, HI

#11 Nov 19, 2009
I forgot to mention a quirk of human nature that leads everyone I know to read the police blotter . Years ago on the big island, the "Mynah Bird" show with mel mediros would broadcast the previous day's names of everyone that got arrested, to find out if that crazy uncle of yours is back in jail...great fodder for gossip while you get that first cup of coffee before sunrise.
been there done that

Honolulu, HI

#12 Nov 19, 2009
the dui process is pretty solid. if the police arrest and CHARGE you for dui, they've got you by the balls. any minor technicality that may, eventually, get you off the hook is beside the point. You were dui.
itsumo

Las Vegas, NV

#13 Nov 19, 2009
HPD doesn't mind posting the pictures of those arrested for DUI on their Web Site but they refuse to release punitive actions that are taken against their own police officers. Sounds like a double standard here. Aside from that, maybe HPD should spend more time reducing property crimes than making web sites.
See this news article from the day before yesterday.
Nov 16th 2009 at 6:00AM
High crimes: 10 military towns are among the country's most dangerous
Topping the list of America's ten worst military neighborhoods is Hawaii's Schofield Barracks.
The Real Karen

United States

#14 Nov 19, 2009
I think it's a good idea. When you're arrested for DUI it becomes a matter of public record. The DUI attorneys acquire, and use this information to offer their services to the alleged driver under the influence. It's hypocritical for them to oppose this posting. They're probably just worried about the other attorney's easier access to clients, thus making it harder for them to secure business.
The Real Karen

United States

#15 Nov 19, 2009
In the newspapers there are articles and pictures of people charged of crimes but not yet convicted. You read about it all the time. Accused murderer standing trial for shooting, etc. It's the same thing if not worse. Those people are also not convicted yet, but they are often pictured in court and their stories made public.
willie

Farmington, MI

#16 Nov 19, 2009
The president said the 911 planner terorist will be found guilty and executed....pretty much the same thing, we have all seen his ugly puss on the front pages so how will he get a fair trial now...not that I really care.
the smoking gun

Honolulu, HI

#17 Nov 19, 2009
check out thesmokinggun.com they post pics of people they arrested - don't know if they even had a trial - but they include the police report (hiding names and other personal info) with the mug shot - how's that. should be a reason not to do things that will get you in trouble - but they'll do it anyway, so post the pics and see if that helps
Fail

United States

#18 Nov 19, 2009
The Real Karen wrote:
In the newspapers there are articles and pictures of people charged of crimes but not yet convicted. You read about it all the time. Accused murderer standing trial for shooting, etc. It's the same thing if not worse. Those people are also not convicted yet, but they are often pictured in court and their stories made public.
Real Karen, I agree with you 100%. I don't know why these people are bashing your posts. They make perfect sense to me. Except all the Mufi stuff:(
Wacko

Wahiawa, HI

#19 Nov 19, 2009
Absolutely ridiculous. A person is presumed innocent till proven guilty. If they accept this kind of values , then how about posting photos of police officers who are suspended or reprimanded for doing something wrong (cheating on spouses, goofing off and drinking coffee, stealing are just examples of bad behavior).

What is fair for the public should be applied to bad cops as well.

Right?
Von

Aiea, HI

#20 Nov 19, 2009
You will see very soon after they start publishing these pictures that everybody in the world would want their picture taken so they can put it on YouTube.

I'm not sure if the following links will show up here, but if not just search DUI mug shots on Goggles and you will see many police departments are already take these pictures down.

It will never work. A few police departments are saying: INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY right across their home page now.

http://www.mcso.org/index.php...

http://www.totaldui.com/news/articles/headlin...

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