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Riders lament loss as city cuts TheBoat - Hawaii News

There are 32 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from May 14, 2009, titled Riders lament loss as city cuts TheBoat - Hawaii News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Eric Palmer found it peaceful to see whales, flying fish and turtles on his way to work aboard the TheBoat.

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Still From Heeia

Dallas, TX

#1 May 14, 2009
"TheBoat was a good experiment but simply too expensive for taxpayers."

Have we seen enough to know that Oahu is not the place for well-meaning but ultimately ruinous "experiments" at taxpayer expense? Please ditch the rail experiment before Hawaii REALLY gets hurt. It's not something we'll be able to send back.
Big John-Hawaii Kai

Kailua, HI

#2 May 14, 2009
Eric Palmer said, "It's more of an adventure." Yes Eric, you're right and the taxpayers of the C&C were paying $120 of your fare every time you rode The Boat. I guess if I were being subsidized $120 every time I used my vehicle, I would consider it an adventure too, on someone elses dollar.
onlyparadise

Pearl City, HI

#3 May 14, 2009
what a waste of money.
it could not take more than 400 people a day and you have to park a couple of miles away and take a bus to where the boat is and then you have to take another bus once you get to downtown.

if you want an adventure why not take a safari trip to africa.

why should the tax payer pass out 4.3 million a year for someone who has time on their hand to ride the boat.
NoBoats

Kapolei, HI

#4 May 14, 2009
Great. We are the only island state, but we ruled the SuperFerry unconstitutional, and now must cancel TheBoat.

“Too small to notice”

Since: Jun 08

Kahuku , Ka'U

#5 May 14, 2009
onlyparadise made a great point about having to ride buses at both ends of the ride. Sounds exactly like the elevated canvas for graffiti artists that seems to go up in price everytime it's discussed.
tooeasy

San Diego, CA

#6 May 14, 2009
got to agree with Still from Heeia

it is just to easy for them to experiment with our money

their experiments are going to ruin all of us
tooeasy

San Diego, CA

#7 May 14, 2009
Richard Swann wrote:
onlyparadise made a great point about having to ride buses at both ends of the ride. Sounds exactly like the elevated canvas for graffiti artists that seems to go up in price everytime it's discussed.
normally the buck stops with the Mayor

but as it stands, nobody cares
local

Kailua, HI

#8 May 14, 2009
The Boat was an $5 million experiment that was way too costly for the taxpapers. Yes use the money for the homeowners tax credit or some other useful service.
alice

Kahului, HI

#9 May 14, 2009
another mufi fiasco
Dman

San Diego, CA

#10 May 14, 2009
Just wait until the rial is up (in about 20 years) then we will really know how STUPID our elected officials are.
djs

Honolulu, HI

#11 May 14, 2009
tooeasy wrote:
got to agree with Still from Heeia
it is just to easy for them to experiment with our money
their experiments are going to ruin all of us
So you would rather do nothing and sit back and whine and complain and cast blame? You save some money but have nothing to show for it and nothing new is ever attempted. Now that is the typical republican mentality.
forgot history

Honolulu, HI

#12 May 14, 2009
djs wrote:
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So you would rather do nothing and sit back and whine and complain and cast blame? You save some money but have nothing to show for it and nothing new is ever attempted. Now that is the typical republican mentality.
This boat "experiment" was tried about a decade ago, and the exact same thing happened.
Why try it again and again?
typical democrat mentality.
Waste taxpayer funds...only friends and "supporters" make a profit.
Mike

Saint Petersburg, FL

#13 May 14, 2009
$120 to see turtles and watch tourists is a little steep, don't you think?

1. Swim off Kaimana and see turtles for free in THEIR environment, and walk Waikiki to see tourists.
Charges???$00.00.

How about sending me my $120??
Not Convinced

Waipahu, HI

#14 May 14, 2009
Give credit for trying out a new, or technologically improved idea, but also give credit for scrapping the idea when it doesn't turn out as planned. I'm sure the lamenters would not be lamenting so loudly if they had to pay the actual cost of their ridership. It was a good deal for them while it lasted, but is simply not affordable.
Get Real

Honolulu, HI

#15 May 14, 2009
Like The Boat, Mufi's rail will be a failure as well.

No one wants to go through the multiple-step process of car-bus-rail-bus to get to their destination, especially when most people live 20 miles or less from work.

Most people would rather just use the one-step proces called their car.

As such, they should build another freeway for drivers, not rail, which, like The Boat, will suffer from low ridership.

The Boat was a multi-million dollar mistake.

The Rail will be a multi-BILLION dollar mistake.

Let's learn now so we don't make the same mistakes in the future. Stop the rail project today!
onlyparadise wrote:
what a waste of money.
it could not take more than 400 people a day and you have to park a couple of miles away and take a bus to where the boat is and then you have to take another bus once you get to downtown.
if you want an adventure why not take a safari trip to africa.
why should the tax payer pass out 4.3 million a year for someone who has time on their hand to ride the boat.

Since: Feb 08

Kaneohe, Hawaii

#16 May 14, 2009
djs wrote:
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So you would rather do nothing and sit back and whine and complain and cast blame? You save some money but have nothing to show for it and nothing new is ever attempted. Now that is the typical republican mentality.
Feel good approaches that few use and open money spigots ... no matter the cost.

Typical Democrat mentality.
duh

Honolulu, HI

#18 May 14, 2009
djs wrote:
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... typical republican mentality.
You obviously have access to the internet. Use it to educate yourself of the difference between the Republican and Democratic ideologies.

Take the blinders off and expand your knowledge. You remind me of interviews of people from Communist China.
djs

Honolulu, HI

#19 May 14, 2009
duh wrote:
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You obviously have access to the internet. Use it to educate yourself of the difference between the Republican and Democratic ideologies.
Take the blinders off and expand your knowledge. You remind me of interviews of people from Communist China.
been there, done that - not impressed.
The Real Deal

United States

#20 May 14, 2009
Still From Heeia wrote:
"TheBoat was a good experiment but simply too expensive for taxpayers."
Have we seen enough to know that Oahu is not the place for well-meaning but ultimately ruinous "experiments" at taxpayer expense? Please ditch the rail experiment before Hawaii REALLY gets hurt. It's not something we'll be able to send back.
Yes, but that is the mentality of the island politicians. They know that it won't work, but their thinking is that it is not their dime. But let the rail play itself out and break the piggy bank of all the taxpayers. It will do that because the taxpayers and even the politicians really do not know exactly how much it will take to maintain the rail. And when ridership on the rail dwindles, let see what the politicians do at that time. All I will say for now is that it would look foolish to spend millions on maintaining a rail system when the revenues from ridership will not come close to covering the cost.
djs

Honolulu, HI

#21 May 14, 2009
The Real Deal wrote:
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Yes, but that is the mentality of the island politicians....a rail system when the revenues from ridership will not come close to covering the cost.
Yes, but that is the mentality of the typical republican - demand that government operate for profit like a business then get miffed when they get have to pay more for government services.

The money you pay for vehicle registration and gas doesn't even come close to the total cost of maintaining our roads and highways or to build new ones. Where do you think the extra funds come from to make up the difference?

When drivers start paying for the full cost of maintaining our roads, then they will have a right to complain about the costs of other transportation options.

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