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Global warming treaty would be major success - Hawaii Editorials

There are 40 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Nov 30, 2009, titled Global warming treaty would be major success - Hawaii Editorials. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Dealing with the threat of a global climate change predicted to have severe consequences for Hawaii has been given a high priority in the Obama administration but faces challenges in Washington and internationally.

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“Don't believe what you hear.”

Since: Sep 08

Wahiawa

#1 Nov 30, 2009
Gotta love this congress and president. We are in the midst of a horrible recession and they insist on increasing regulations and employment costs so as to empower themselves and hobble the businesses that employ Americans.
It will do no good to working America if this legislation or these treaties advance as those countries that choose not to participate will reap the benefits of increased manufacturing and technological advances.
There should be attempts to recognize that improper stewardship of our resources is foolhardy, yet still recognize the need for businesses need for these resources in order to survive.
If a balance is not found, we may all find ourselves living in caves again or under another country's rule.

“Common sense - common man”

Since: Oct 08

Honokaa, HI

#2 Nov 30, 2009
Doesn't it seem just a little wrong-headed to promote solutions to Man Made Global Warming just when we are finding out that it may have been a hoax? I get the feeling that editorial writers like this one are in a state of denial.

Imua!
Mike

Wahiawa, HI

#3 Nov 30, 2009
There is a major new development in the global warming controversy (IT IS a controversy disputed by tens of thousands of scientists), due to leaked emails by the prime players of the issue. That you completely avoid mentioning this issue, let alone 'hold off' your opinion until the actual data is released, (OOPs, that data was dumped) speaks volumes about your bias, and total lunacy to 'drink the kool aid, err, warm aid', your opinion, or editorial, is meaningless, and lacks all credibility. Newspaper journalism is DEAD.
OnlyParadise

Pearl City, HI

#4 Nov 30, 2009
The administration knows fully that the way to reduce global warming is to have more nuclear energy.

the environmental wackos and lawyers won't let it happen.

oil companies won't let it happen

this is such a ridiculous debate

be a sheep
vote demo C R A P
Jerry Okamura

Hilo, HI

#5 Nov 30, 2009
Anyone who believes that they can actually prevent the event from happening is living in some sort of dream world. You only need to ask a couple of questions to know that. For instance, is there any country in the world, willing to ask their citizens to make significant and painful sacrifices to prevent the event from happening? Can you prevent the event from happening without asking your citizens to make significant and painful sacrifices? How are you going to convinve the leaders of countries like China and India to ask their people to make these painful and significant sacrifices, when they are just struggling to live a halfway decent life as things stand now? If you were the leader of these countries, would you ask your people to make these sacrifices? Besides, why are we only talking about how to prevent the event from happening and not also exploring alternative solutions, should the event happen, like for instance, mitigating the effects of the event, rather than trying to prevent the event from happening? Which will be the least painful? What happens when you "force" you people to make some sacrifices, and the event happens anyway?
Fenris The Big Bad Wolf

Roselle, IL

#6 Nov 30, 2009
Solar energy is a fraud
rubbish

Honolulu, HI

#7 Nov 30, 2009
What a load of tripe. What kind of agenda does this rag have? What do they stand to gain by backing what is with each passing day found to be fraudulant?
Funny, not a word about the leaked emails, destruction of data, false peer reviews and other dubiuos methods of massaging data to fit a hypothesis.
No checking into how much money these "scientists" stand to gain from the taxpayer via grants and other subsidies.
No investigating how Gore is becoming a billionaire selling carbon "credits" and other "green" products.
Not a peep about the Energy Czarina Carol Browner's sitting on the board of APX, a carbon offset company. Not one story on why the rich (who can purchase these "offsets") can continue to pollute, but the common person is forced by law to use light bulbs filled with dangerous levels of mercury and are costlier and less efficient that regular bulbs.
Not one mention of why the US and the West have to destroy their economies to "save the planet" while China and India have already said they won't agree to any climate "control" treaty.
Like most of the leftist agenda that the SB's editorial board backs, it doesn't stand up to any kind of scrutiny, which shouldn't surprise anyone.
Fenris The Big Bad Wolf

Roselle, IL

#8 Nov 30, 2009
I put panels all around my one bedroom shack. Then started cuttung down the 100 trees around it. still not enough power to run my dog house.
Mike

Hot Springs, MT

#9 Nov 30, 2009
Look even if their is some truth to what some of the naysayers say the bottom line is we as a civilization are rolling the dice related to all life on this planet as it pertains to the climate change question. If their is only one chance in ten that the global warming crowd is right we as the worlds only superpower had better do all we can to lead the world towards dramatic reductions in greenhouse gases, paticularly CO2. I applaud the Star-Bulletin for taking a responsible stand on this issue.
JRobert

United States

#10 Nov 30, 2009
"China announced last week that it had set a target to slow the growth of greenhouse emissions by 2020"

This editorial writer is blatantly lying by omitting the rest of China's shell-game statement. China made it clear that they would refuse to accept the same kind of environmental rules that they advocate being imposed on the U.S.

These Warmists are made up two main groups: those with a financial agenda and those who have been duped.

In China's case, they're perfectly happy to sit back and allow the West to destroy itself financially.

Chris

Port Saint Lucie, FL

#11 Nov 30, 2009
Thanks to the e-mails from East Anglia we now know that "peer review"= fraud = lies = corruption. We know "consensus" equals the same. Everyone with a brain knew for a long time the emperor was naked. Now we have an actual photograph. It's not pretty.
Local Haole

Dallas, TX

#12 Nov 30, 2009
I simply can't believe that anyone is dense enough to continue to believe this hoax.

Certainly, any fool can see that the CRU emails have laid out the conspiracy by a cabal of 'scientists' to dupe the human race into thinking that only by giving up their freedoms and money can we stave off certain death.

The only thing man-made about global warming is the hysteria created aroud it.
realmerv

Honolulu, HI

#13 Nov 30, 2009
JRobert wrote:
"China announced last week that it had set a target to slow the growth of greenhouse emissions by 2020"
This editorial writer is blatantly lying by omitting the rest of China's shell-game statement. China made it clear that they would refuse to accept the same kind of environmental rules that they advocate being imposed on the U.S.
These Warmists are made up two main groups: those with a financial agenda and those who have been duped.
In China's case, they're perfectly happy to sit back and allow the West to destroy itself financially.
China welcomes Global Warming since it means more jobs for their people. They will end up being the greatest polluters in the world and will go along with Global Warming initiatives and let the United States do China's share of trying to cool the planet.

And as the earth continues to cool as it has over the past 10 years, China will just start manufacturing heaters for homes when the earth gets too cold.

Global Warming is a big hoax. Workers on the mainland living in manufacturing states will be the biggest losers since their jobs will all go overseas to China, India, and Indonesia.

Since: Aug 08

Makawao, HI

#14 Nov 30, 2009
Haven't you guys been listening to the news this week. Those "scientests" that promote globel warming confessed that they "cooked the books."
They Lied. They made it all up.

They admitted that Global Warming is NOT TRUE.

Check it out.
Chicago Hope and Change

United States

#15 Nov 30, 2009
Chris wrote:
Thanks to the e-mails from East Anglia we now know that "peer review"= fraud = lies = corruption. We know "consensus" equals the same. Everyone with a brain knew for a long time the emperor was naked. Now we have an actual photograph. It's not pretty.
Stop reading the e-mail!
Do you realize that it is a crime.
You are not a scientist and your opinion means nothing.

The program and official position of the government has not changed people. This e-mail hype is just a bunch of fluff from the deniers.
Remember this is the same right wing racist crowd who formed the tea parties, oppose Health Care Reform and file lawsuits against the president trying to get him to show his birth certificate.
They lie.
They are also afraid. Afraid that the government is going to tax their crimes and send it to people who are oppressed and suffering.
We are on the cusp of a strong treaty at Copenhagen that will signal a major turning point in environmentalism and international governance. These e-mails are chaff and will in no way impinge on the lofty goals of the IPCC.
The western nations(mostly US) will pay for their eco-crimes and be forced to pay billions to the suffering in places like Africa. The moral imperative of a fair redistribution, is in itself , reason alone to support a strong treaty.

The rest of your post about the emperor and being naked is an obvioust racist attack on Obama.
That is what its always about.
AGW deniers, tea baggers, Health Care Reform blockers, etc etc.
Same bunch of racist capitalists.
Billionair AlGore

United States

#16 Nov 30, 2009
Climategate (Still not news to the Star-Bulletin or Advertiser)

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/main/ArticlesM...

What this i$ all about:

Furloughs: Advertiser sides with “sustainability” billionaires against “Save our Sports”

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/main/ArticlesM...
please

Honolulu, HI

#17 Nov 30, 2009
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop reading the e-mail!
Do you realize that it is a crime.
You are not a scientist and your opinion means nothing.
The program and official position of the government has not changed people. This e-mail hype is just a bunch of fluff from the deniers.
Remember this is the same right wing racist crowd who formed the tea parties, oppose Health Care Reform and file lawsuits against the president trying to get him to show his birth certificate.
They lie.
They are also afraid. Afraid that the government is going to tax their crimes and send it to people who are oppressed and suffering.
We are on the cusp of a strong treaty at Copenhagen that will signal a major turning point in environmentalism and international governance. These e-mails are chaff and will in no way impinge on the lofty goals of the IPCC.
The western nations(mostly US) will pay for their eco-crimes and be forced to pay billions to the suffering in places like Africa. The moral imperative of a fair redistribution, is in itself , reason alone to support a strong treaty.
The rest of your post about the emperor and being naked is an obvioust racist attack on Obama.
That is what its always about.
AGW deniers, tea baggers, Health Care Reform blockers, etc etc.
Same bunch of racist capitalists.
The race card doesn't work any more. Nor does name calling (which is all you libs have left, since we now see that any "facts" that you have been using are all cooked and false).
You should seek medical help as soon as possible...you seem to have overdosed on the kool aid.
It must hurt real bad to be discovered to be a fraud.
JRobert

United States

#18 Nov 30, 2009
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop reading the e-mail!
Do you realize that it is a crime.
You are not a scientist and your opinion means nothing.
The program and official position of the government has not changed people. This e-mail hype is just a bunch of fluff from the deniers.
Remember this is the same right wing racist crowd who formed the tea parties, oppose Health Care Reform and file lawsuits against the president trying to get him to show his birth certificate.
They lie.
They are also afraid. Afraid that the government is going to tax their crimes and send it to people who are oppressed and suffering.
We are on the cusp of a strong treaty at Copenhagen that will signal a major turning point in environmentalism and international governance. These e-mails are chaff and will in no way impinge on the lofty goals of the IPCC.
The western nations(mostly US) will pay for their eco-crimes and be forced to pay billions to the suffering in places like Africa. The moral imperative of a fair redistribution, is in itself , reason alone to support a strong treaty.
The rest of your post about the emperor and being naked is an obvioust racist attack on Obama.
That is what its always about.
AGW deniers, tea baggers, Health Care Reform blockers, etc etc.
Same bunch of racist capitalists.
Hahaha. "Stop reading the e-mails!' whines the Warmist.(And ignore the man behind the curtain.) Hahaha.

Well, at least you've admitted the underlying purpose of the Global Warming scam: "lofty goals", "global governance", "moral imperative", "monetary redistribution."

It's just the standard progrom of the Marxist/Socialists and their latest leader Obama. His mentor, neo-Marxist Saul Alinsky, would be proud.
BozoNemesis

AOL

#19 Nov 30, 2009
"Dealing with the threat of a global climate change predicted to have severe consequences for Hawaii has been given a high priority in the Obama administration..." -and- "Obama must convince Congress that ignoring global warming on that basis would be reckless, producing irreversible consequences for the environment and the economy for decades." Editor sir, what cave have you been living in for the past couple weeks (actually, years)? I CAN believe that you were dumb enough to buy Al Bore's "man-made" global warming scam, but now that the cat's out of the bag that it IS A SCAM, you still spew the same old lame Dumocrappic "party" lolo talk? That, sir, is UNBELIEVABLE! Sheesh...
Chicago Commies

Honolulu, HI

#20 Nov 30, 2009
Chicago Hope and Change wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop reading the e-mail!
Do you realize that it is a crime.
You are not a scientist and your opinion means nothing.
The program and official position of the government has not changed people. This e-mail hype is just a bunch of fluff from the deniers.
Remember this is the same right wing racist crowd who formed the tea parties, oppose Health Care Reform and file lawsuits against the president trying to get him to show his birth certificate.
They lie.
They are also afraid. Afraid that the government is going to tax their crimes and send it to people who are oppressed and suffering.
We are on the cusp of a strong treaty at Copenhagen that will signal a major turning point in environmentalism and international governance. These e-mails are chaff and will in no way impinge on the lofty goals of the IPCC.
The western nations(mostly US) will pay for their eco-crimes and be forced to pay billions to the suffering in places like Africa. The moral imperative of a fair redistribution, is in itself , reason alone to support a strong treaty.
The rest of your post about the emperor and being naked is an obvioust racist attack on Obama.
That is what its always about.
AGW deniers, tea baggers, Health Care Reform blockers, etc etc.
Same bunch of racist capitalists.
LOL ! The Phoney 'Messiah' Odumba emrged from Communist and Racist Chicago;)

Take my advice ! Don't EVER visit that Cess pool of corrupt Communist Politics and Reverse Racism.

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