Isle housing bottom seen - Business

Isle housing bottom seen - Business

There are 62104 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Apr 3, 2009, titled Isle housing bottom seen - Business. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

The worst could be over for Oahu's slumping housing market even though slower conditions are expected to persist until there is better economic news in the state.

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Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#63459 Feb 3, 2014
...just the tip of the iceberg from the above:
pt 1/3-

This Statute would require the birth certificate be plainly marked, "Delayed", or "Altered" and the probative value would determine by the official to whom the certificate was being offered. We believe it is safe to conclude that even the State of Hawaii did not have confidence in the representations on this document.
Investigators have advised Sheriff Arpaio that several possible crimes may have been committed:
First, the fraudulent creation of an official document
Second, the White House characterizing a forgery as an officially-produced governmental birth record; and
Third, Mr. Obama represented to the residents of Maricopa County and the American public that a forgery was "proof positive" of his authentic 1961 Hawaiian long-form birth certificate, thereby deceiving voters and state election commissions across the country into believing he was eligible to become President, have his name appear on Presidential ballots, thereby garnering votes from the public under false pretenses.

Accordingly, Sheriff Arpaio continues to recommend that the Congress of the United States open an immediate investigation, including the appointment of a select committee, as regards to the authenticity of Mr. Obama's documentation, whether any crimes have been committed, and to determine Mr. Obama's eligibility for the office of President of the Unites States.



Mr. Obama's Selective Service Registration Card
Investigators also examined Mr. Obama's Selective Service registration card bearing Mr. Obama's signature, which displays a Post Office Date stamp, "July 29, 80," in the lower right corner. For comparison purposes, investigators reviewed a number of authentic Selective Service registration cards of other individuals, obtained via Freedom of Information Act requests.
All the authentic registration cards the investigators inspected displayed a Post Office stamp indicating the calendar year date stamp with four digits, for example "1980". This was in sharp contrast to Mr. Obama's card which displayed a two digit date stamp of "80" for the year.
Investigators interviewed several Post Office employees who verified that it was standard procedure to utilize only a four digit date stamp. Investigators learned that the date stamp that would have been utilized in 1980 was identified as a Pica Post Office stamp set that could only be obtained through postal supply houses.
Investigators located that particular stamp set but were unsuccessful in locating a four digit 1980 date stamp insert.
Noticing irregularities in the date stamp, namely the date "80" on Mr. Obama's registration card, it is offset low and to right when compared to the full four digit "1980" date stamps on other cards. Investigators believed that this anomaly was created by the severing of an intact four year "2008" date stamp and inverting the remaining "08" inverting it to cause it to display "80".
Investigators concluded that this representation of "80" that appears on Mr. Obama's selective service card is in fact an altered 2008 pica date stamp.
Investigators obtained a 2008 Pica Post Office date stamp and severed it in between the two zeros. Then by inverting investigators were able to replicate an identical looking stamp to that one found on Mr. Obama selective service card. Investigators concluded that there is a high probability that Mr. Obama's selective service card was recently created as an attempt to cover up the fact that Mr. Obama failed to register for Selective Service as required by law in 1980.

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Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#63460 Feb 3, 2014
pt 2-

Missing Immigration Records for August 1-7, 1961
There has been immense speculation that Mr. Obama may actually have been born in Kenya. These speculations were fuelled not only by the refusal of Mr. Obama to produce a valid Hawaiian birth certificate, but by recognition of the Kenya government claiming Kenya as being Mr. Obama's birth place. There were numerous reports that Stanley Ann Dunham had reportedly left Hawaii to travel to Kenya in the summer of 1961 to give birth.
In an attempt to verify whether Mr. Obama and his mother Stanley Ann Dunham had possibly arrived in the United States at or around the alleged date of his birth, we contacted the National Archives to obtain microfilms of the immigration landing records (I-94 document) for the calendar year 1961.
Investigators focused on microfilm records of INS passenger cards for foreign flights arriving in Honolulu during the time period of July 1961 through September 1961.
We discovered that data records for the entire week of August 2, 1961 through August 7, 1961, were completely missing from the microfilm roll. This included the alleged date of Mr. Obama's birth (August 4, 1961).

Selective Service Registration Card Analysis

Investigators also examined Mr. Obama's Selective Service registration card bearing Mr. Obama's signature. They concluded that there is a high probability that Mr. Obama's selective service card was recently created as an attempt to cover up the fact that Mr. Obama failed to register for Selective Service as required by law in 1980.
1961 August 4, 7:24 pm - Barack Hussein Obama II was allegedly born in Kapiolani Hospital, Honolulu, HI, according to the image of his long-form birth certificate that is posted on the White House website. Birth certificate number 61-10641.
However, this has been greatly debated due in part to initial reports that Mr. Obama was reports to have been born in Queens Medical Center, in Honolulu Hawaii. Inquiries were made at Queens Medical Center and authorities there disclosed that they had no record of that event. Subsequently, a change was made in the narrative alleging the birth place to now be Kapiolani Hospital. While this may be an oversight other discrepancy surfaced around the information visible on the .pdf file image released by the White House.
The serial number shown on the image of the certificate, which purports on its face to have been imposed on the form with an automated sequential numbering stamp, is 61-10641. Investigators learned at that time, batches of birth certificates were collected monthly, ordered by date and time of birth, and then sequentially number-stamped in a special room by a single clerk trained for the purpose, to minimize numbering errors.

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Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#63462 Feb 3, 2014
lol...don't trust the experts or your lying eyes folks....trust the liar instead.

ROTFLMAO!!!!

EVERYTHING OBAMA SAYS IS A COMPLETE LIE. HE HAS BEEN CAUGHT NUMEROUS TIMES NOW IN ALL OF HIS SCANDALS AND LIES. You have witnessed it repeatedly.

FROM HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE, PASSPORT RECORDS, COLLEGE RECORDS, SELECTIVE SERVICE CARD, VARIOUS NAMES, BENGHAZI, OBAMACARE, FAILURE TO PASS E-VERIFY EVEN ONCE, HIS ENTIRE LIFE ....IS ALL A LIE. Not one thing he says is true, nor will it ever be.

WAKE UP AMERICA. IT IS TIME TO IMPEACH THIS URSURPER.
YAWN

Honolulu, HI

#63463 Feb 4, 2014
Yawn more of the same copy and paste.
Plame

Canyon Country, CA

#63464 Feb 4, 2014
The rags are out of the box trap. I saw the crump go.
No jobs

Canyon Country, CA

#63465 Feb 4, 2014
"Affordable Care Act will prompt millions to reduce work hours or quit entirely, says Congressional Budget Office"

Obama has not done one damn thing for us. Why Hawaii not tell on him about his not having birth certificate? It is time to get a new president. You cover for him and for what? Hawaiians are better than this. he does not even help black people. Or you either.

Since: Sep 13

Ewa Beach, HI

#63466 Feb 4, 2014
“The jobs figures largely represent Americans who will choose not to work rather than those who will lose their jobs or have their workweeks reduced because of the law.”

- WSJ

Since: Sep 13

Ewa Beach, HI

#63467 Feb 4, 2014
"No, CBO did not say Obamacare will kill 2 million jobs"

Excerpt:

The Facts
First, this is not about jobs. It’s about workers — and the choices they make.

The CBO’s estimate is mostly the result of an analysis of the impact of the law on the supply of labor. That means how many people choose to participate in the work force. In other words, the nonpartisan agency is examining whether the law increases or decreases incentives for people to work.

One big issue: the health insurance subsidies in the law. That’s a substantial benefit that decreases as people earn more money, so at a certain point, a person has to choose between earning more money or continuing to get the maximum help with health insurance payments. In other words, people might work longer and harder, but actually earn no more, or earn even less, money. That is a disincentive to work.(The same thing happens when people qualify for food stamps or other social services.)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-chec...
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#63469 Feb 4, 2014
Fry Cook Shifted to Part-Time Work Confronts Obama...
Govt nearly triples job hours lost...
HHS searching for malware from Belarus in software...
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#63470 Feb 4, 2014
Leeward Outlier wrote:
"No, CBO did not say Obamacare will kill 2 million jobs"
Excerpt:
The Facts
First, this is not about jobs. It’s about workers — and the choices they make.
The CBO’s estimate is mostly the result of an analysis of the impact of the law on the supply of labor. That means how many people choose to participate in the work force. In other words, the nonpartisan agency is examining whether the law increases or decreases incentives for people to work.
One big issue: the health insurance subsidies in the law. That’s a substantial benefit that decreases as people earn more money, so at a certain point, a person has to choose between earning more money or continuing to get the maximum help with health insurance payments. In other words, people might work longer and harder, but actually earn no more, or earn even less, money. That is a disincentive to work.(The same thing happens when people qualify for food stamps or other social services.)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-chec...
CNBC???!- LOL!!!

They, and CBS are the least trusted news source in the nation now. They are nothing but PAID LIARS for obama. And that is the reason NOBODY watches them anymore and they are in such financial bad shape. FOX kicks their assess everyday in the ratings.

But they support both yours and obama's agenda. We understand.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#63471 Feb 4, 2014
Heads up!

China Savers’ Penchant for Property Magnifies Bust Danger
By Bloomberg News Feb 4, 2014 6:15 PM PT
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China Economy May Grow 7.2% This Year, ANZ Says

Chinese households’ concentration of wealth in real estate is magnifying the danger to the world’s second-largest economy of any property bust, as the nation grapples with the consequences of its record credit surge.

Some 66.1 percent of family assets were in housing in 2013, a national survey of about 28,000 households shows. Mortgage debt as a share of disposable income rose to 30 percent from 18 percent in 2008, according to estimates by Nicholas Lardy at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington.

The buildup raises the stakes for any slide in property prices amid China’s efforts to head off defaults by local governments and developers that propelled a run-up in borrowing that now amounts to more than double the size of the economy, according to Goldman Sachs Group Inc. A hit to household wealth could impair consumer spending, rebuffing policy maker efforts to rebalance the economy toward domestic demand.

“A fall in housing prices could have significant knock-on effects on private consumption,” said Eswar Prasad, a former chief of the International Monetary Fund’s China division and now an economics professor at Cornell University in Ithaca, New York.“Such a hit to private consumption could pose significant macroeconomic risks, both to headline growth and the process of rebalancing growth.”
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China’s households piled into real estate in recent years as they sought returns beyond the regulated caps on savings deposits. With the nation’s stock market failing to keep pace with economic growth, property offered an alternative, along with trusts that channeled credit to borrowers outside the official banking system.
Values Rose

Among urban households that own apartments, 75.5 percent of their assets are in real estate, according to Gan Li, director of the Survey and Research Center for China Household Finance in Chengdu, a body set up by the Southwestern University of Finance and Economics. The center’s 2013 national survey showed that households’ assets rose by 20 percent from 2011, while the value of their residential property holdings increased 26.8 percent.

A bursting housing bubble would cause a “substantial hit to Chinese household wealth” with long-term consequences for consumption, said Gan.

For now, there may be little sign of danger. Home prices in December had the biggest year-on-year gain in 2013, increasing 12 percent, according to SouFun Holdings Ltd., China’s biggest real-estate website owner. At the same time, some cite concern that developers have built more than the economy needs -- with Centaline Property Agency Ltd., China’s biggest real-estate brokerage, detecting oversupply last year in cities other than the nation’s four biggest.
Photographer: Brent Lewin/Bloomberg

A man walks past residential buildings in the Pazhou district of Guangzhou.
Looming Risk

Liu Li-Gang, chief Greater China economist at Australia & New Zealand Banking Group Ltd., said today that risks may mount in ...

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Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#63473 Feb 4, 2014
Fry Cook Shifted to Part-Time Work Confronts Obama...
Govt nearly triples job hours lost...
Live by the CBO, die by the CBO...
HHS searching for malware from Belarus in software...
Obamacare enrollees hit snags at doctor's offices...
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#63474 Feb 4, 2014
Leeward Outlier wrote:
"No, CBO did not say Obamacare will kill 2 million jobs"
Excerpt:
The Facts
First, this is not about jobs. It’s about workers — and the choices they make.
The CBO’s estimate is mostly the result of an analysis of the impact of the law on the supply of labor. That means how many people choose to participate in the work force. In other words, the nonpartisan agency is examining whether the law increases or decreases incentives for people to work.
One big issue: the health insurance subsidies in the law. That’s a substantial benefit that decreases as people earn more money, so at a certain point, a person has to choose between earning more money or continuing to get the maximum help with health insurance payments. In other words, people might work longer and harder, but actually earn no more, or earn even less, money. That is a disincentive to work.(The same thing happens when people qualify for food stamps or other social services.)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-chec...
wrong again muttonhead!

Dana Milbank

By Dana Milbank, Tuesday, February 4, 5:12 PM

For years, the White House has trotted out the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office to show that Obamacare would cut health-care costs and reduce deficits:

“CBO Confirms Families Will Save Money Under Health Reform.”

Dana Milbank

Gallery

What Obama didn’t know: The many controversies that the White House says the president was kept in the dark about.

“CBO Update Shows Lower Costs for the New Health Care Law.”

Live by the sword, die by the sword, the Bible tells us. In Washington, it’s slightly different: Live by the CBO, die by the CBO.

The congressional number-crunchers, perhaps the capital’s closest thing to a neutral referee, came out with a new report Tuesday, and it wasn’t pretty for Obamacare. The CBO predicted the law would have a “substantially larger” impact on the labor market than it had previously expected: The law would reduce the workforce in 2021 by the equivalent of 2.3 million full-time workers, well more than the 800,000 originally anticipated. This will inevitably be a drag on economic growth, as more people decide government handouts are more attractive than working more and paying higher taxes.

This is grim news for the White House and for Democrats on the ballot in November. This independent arbiter, long embraced by the White House, has validated a core complaint of the Affordable Care Act’s (ACA) critics: that it will discourage work and become an ungainly entitlement. Disputing Republicans’ charges is much easier than refuting the federal government’s official scorekeepers.

White House officials rushed to dispute the referee’s call —...

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Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#63475 Feb 4, 2014
2/2-

"... arguing, somewhat contradictorily, that the finding was both flawed and really good news if interpreted properly.

Press secretary Jay Carney quickly issued a statement saying that the CBO report was, by its own admission,“incomplete” and “does not take into account” some favorable effects of the law.

Carney postponed his daily press briefing, then arrived with Jason Furman, head of the Council of Economic Advisers, who argued that the Affordable Care Act couldn’t possibly be a job killer because 8.1 million jobs had been created since it became law. This is true — but irrelevant to the CBO finding.

Meanwhile, Gene Sperling, Obama’s top economic-policy adviser, walked to the White House lawn and told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer that he rejected the finding.“When you have two parents and they’re both working full time to provide health care and they don’t feel they’re there to do homework with their kids and this allows one of [them] to work a little less because they have health care, that’s not costing jobs,” Sperling argued.

Sounds nice, except the CBO said its more pessimistic workforce view had been shaped by recent studies,“in particular” those looking at “expansions or contractions in Medicaid eligibility for childless adults.” In general, the CBO explained, phasing out subsidies to buy health insurance when income rises “effectively raises people’s marginal tax rates . .  . thus discouraging work.”

But it was immediately clear that the government’s green eyeshades had bestowed a big gift on the law’s Republican critics.

Fox News put up a breaking-news banner:“Bombshell CBO report predicts 2.3 million jobs will be lost under Obamacare.” Rep. Darrell Issa (Calif.), one of the law’s fiercest foes, did a celebratory interview with Fox.“There are other surprises yet to come,” he promised. Republicans went to the Senate floor to tout the findings. For a brief time, the CBO Web site went down; online traffic surges aren’t usually a problem for the agency.

In the White House briefing room, Furman navigated a river of skeptical questions.“Doesn’t just the sheer idea of losing 2.5 million jobs over 10 years have a negative economic impact? .  . . You’re saying it may be a good thing if there are 2 million fewer workers? .&#8201 ;. . How do you answer Republicans who now have this evidence that they can wave to say,‘Aha, the ACA is bad for the economy’?”

Furman attempted to dispute the report (“I haven’t accepted the number”) without disparaging the authors (“We cite CBO all the time”). Delicately, he said the report “is subject to misinterpretation, doesn’t take into account every factor, and there’s uncertainty and debate around it.”

But there’s only so much White House officials could do. Obamacare has been undermined by the very entity they had used to validate it.

Twitter:@Milbank

Since: Sep 13

Ewa Beach, HI

#63476 Feb 4, 2014
The CBO did not find that the health care reform law would cost the nation over 2 million jobs. What it actually said is that the law will empower more than 2 million Americans to leave the workforce if they want to, no longer feeling forced to stay at a job in order to have benefits for them and their family.

— The ACA is cheaper than it expected.

— It will "markedly increase" the number of Americans with health insurance.

— The risk-adjustment provisions, which Congressional Republicans want to overturn as a "bailout" of the insurance industry, will actually turn a profit to the U.S. Treasury.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi...
yeah right

Canyon Country, CA

#63477 Feb 4, 2014
....and there are little green mice on the moon.

lol!
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#63478 Feb 5, 2014
lol...amazing....now Russia has all of your medical documents ...and nobody knows how obamacare made that arrangement. Russia are the biggest hackers on the planet. Why would Russia put code in obamacare...?

hahaha...this guy has to be impeached. There is no other option now.
Jesse Ventura

Canyon Country, CA

#63479 Feb 5, 2014

Since: Sep 13

Ewa Beach, HI

#63480 Feb 5, 2014
Paul Ryan Fact-Checks Republicans On Obamacare Job 'Costs'

Excerpt:
At least one Republican is setting the record straight on what the Congressional Budget Office actually said this week about Obamacare and its effect on jobs.

House Budget Chair Paul Ryan (R-WI) explained in a Wednesday hearing with CBO director Doug Elmendorf that the health care reform law wouldn't cost the U.S. economy more than 2 million jobs, as many of his colleagues alleged, but that Americans would choose to work less.

"Just to understand, it is not that employers are laying people off," Ryan said.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul-ry...
Cleetus Drinkwater

Canyon Country, CA

#63481 Feb 6, 2014
Watch Out for Obamacare's Subsidy Cliff: Earn $1 More in Wages, and You Could Pay $20,000 More for Insurance
6:34 PM, Feb 5, 2014 • By JOHN MCCORMACK

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On Tuesday, the Congressional Budget Office released a new study finding that the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare, will cause "a decline in the number of full-time-equivalent workers of about 2.0 million in 2017, rising to about 2.5 million in 2024."
Obamacare

That doesn't mean that Obamacare will cause 2.5 million employees to be laid off, but rather that the law will encourage the equivalent of 2.5 million full-time workers to drop out of the workforce. Here's how it will work (or rather, discourage work): Obamacare offers Medicaid to people earning up to 138 percent of the federal poverty line in states that opted into the program, and it provides subsidies to people earning above that amount, up to 400 percent of the federal poverty line. As your income increases, the subsidy decreases.

CBO explains that "the phaseout effectively raises people’s marginal tax rates (the tax rates applying to their last dollar of income), thus discouraging work."

For some people, CBO notes, the incentive to reduce their hours or quit their jobs will be especially strong: "People whose income exceeds 400 percent of the FPL are ineligible for premium subsidies, and for some people those subsidies will drop abruptly to zero when income crosses that threshold."

The Obamacare subsidy cliff is so steep that if you earn just $1 above the threshold, you could end up paying anywhere from a few thousand dollars to $20,000 more for insurance, depending on your age.

Take the case of a couple of 55-year-olds living in St. Croix County, Wisconsin, where the median household income is a little over $68,000.

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