Hawaii State Lottery

“Jazz Music - Good For The Soul”

Since: Sep 07

Kailua, Oahu, HI

#1 Jan 12, 2008
In light of UH-Facilities-In-Very-Bad-Shap e-Gate (recently brought to nationwide attention thanks to the UH coach debacle of last week), it is high time for Hawaii to create a state lottery to help with dealing with the many infrastructure problems throughout the state.

Think about it.

Today, lotteries are established in 42 states, the District of Columbia, and the US Virgin Islands.

To those who are opposed to gambling, you need to realize that Hawaii residents are going to find ways to gamble when they want to.

What do you think the non-stop scheduled and charter flights to Las Vegas are for? Those flights are basically gambling junkets for Hawaii gamblers. Not to mention the many non-stop flights to California, with its readily available plethora of Indian casinos.

Wouldn't it be better if some of that money stayed here in Hawaii?? Why canít we keep some of it here? We definitely need it more than California or Nevada does.

Presently, many state lotteries in the United States donate large portions of their proceeds to the public education system.

Hawaii could very easily do the same thing, with a portion of the lottery proceeds (usually 30-40%) going towards:

State universities
State K-12 schools
State library system
State highways

This is the 21st century, folks. It is time for Hawaii to quit acting like a third world banana republic, and FINALLY be proactive in finding creative and innovative, out-of-the-box ways to find funding to help with paying for badly needed and long neglected infrastructure upgrades for these state-managed programs.

If you don't like a state lottery, then the only real alternative is raising taxes. So...choose your poison.

Aloha.
Popeye

United States

#3 Jan 12, 2008
Jazzmaster wrote:
In light of UH-Facilities-In-Very-Bad-Shap e-Gate (recently brought to nationwide attention thanks to the UH coach debacle of last week), it is high time for Hawaii to create a state lottery to help with dealing with the many infrastructure problems throughout the state.
Think about it.
Today, lotteries are established in 42 states, the District of Columbia, and the US Virgin Islands.
To those who are opposed to gambling, you need to realize that Hawaii residents are going to find ways to gamble when they want to.
What do you think the non-stop scheduled and charter flights to Las Vegas are for? Those flights are basically gambling junkets for Hawaii gamblers. Not to mention the many non-stop flights to California, with its readily available plethora of Indian casinos.
Wouldn't it be better if some of that money stayed here in Hawaii?? Why canít we keep some of it here? We definitely need it more than California or Nevada does.
Presently, many state lotteries in the United States donate large portions of their proceeds to the public education system.
Hawaii could very easily do the same thing, with a portion of the lottery proceeds (usually 30-40%) going towards:
State universities
State K-12 schools
State library system
State highways
This is the 21st century, folks. It is time for Hawaii to quit acting like a third world banana republic, and FINALLY be proactive in finding creative and innovative, out-of-the-box ways to find funding to help with paying for badly needed and long neglected infrastructure upgrades for these state-managed programs.
If you don't like a state lottery, then the only real alternative is raising taxes. So...choose your poison.
Aloha.
Agreed. But can the state bureaucracy manage a state lottery? Seems like they have problems doing the simplest things. I can just imagine how the legislature would react with a windfall in their coffers. Do you think they would reduce our taxes, or just find other ways to spend the money?
ralvic

Honolulu, HI

#5 Jan 12, 2008
The casino you're lured into coming
in,be it from the neon lights or the
thought of making a fast buck.But you
have the choice of opening the door
and going in.The same can't be said
when purchasing a lottery ticket,mainly because you have no choice of opening the door to the
gas station,grocery store or whereever else that might sell lottery tickets.The seduction of buy-
ing a lottery ticket is greater,and
thus probably habit forming.To induce
people thru these means of while they're shopping or filling up gas
is unlawful.
MeiLing

Ewa Beach, HI

#6 Jan 12, 2008
In addition, the states with lotteries are not without their problems because it. Too often, it is the folks who can ill afford it spending their dollars for that one in a gazillion chance of hitting it big.

Personally, I think we do need to raise taxes and we need to discourage outsiders from buying up our real estate for specualtion. Those who own second properties should have to pay a higher tax rate than resident homeowners.

“Jazz Music - Good For The Soul”

Since: Sep 07

Kailua, Oahu, HI

#7 Jan 12, 2008
Popeye wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed. But can the state bureaucracy manage a state lottery? Seems like they have problems doing the simplest things. I can just imagine how the legislature would react with a windfall in their coffers. Do you think they would reduce our taxes, or just find other ways to spend the money?
A valid question. To be sure, a state lottery would not be the 100% perfect answer to the problems.

Hopefully, a proposed state lottery law will create the necessary safeguards.

As far as a tax increase, that ain't gonna happen. The politician(s) that would support tax increases will not be politicians for very long.

If YOU were a politician, would YOU vote for a tax increase, and therefore risk public scorn?

“Jazz Music - Good For The Soul”

Since: Sep 07

Kailua, Oahu, HI

#8 Jan 12, 2008
I would like to add that, whatever the "Way Ahead" is, to address and solve all of this, the status quo IS NOT IT.

Bottom line: Something has to be done to change this mess. If a lottery is not the solution, then SOMETHING ELSE had better be the solution.
John

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Jan 12, 2008
ralvic wrote:
The casino you're lured into coming
in,be it from the neon lights or the
thought of making a fast buck.But you
have the choice of opening the door
and going in.The same can't be said
when purchasing a lottery ticket,mainly because you have no choice of opening the door to the
gas station,grocery store or whereever else that might sell lottery tickets.The seduction of buy-
ing a lottery ticket is greater,and
thus probably habit forming.To induce
people thru these means of while they're shopping or filling up gas
is unlawful.
I would suggest you go to a state with one before you make such statements. Just about every state has one, and they are benifiting from them. College programs, senior programs etc. HI badly needs one.
Popeye

Santa Clara, CA

#10 Jan 12, 2008
Jazzmaster wrote:
I would like to add that, whatever the "Way Ahead" is, to address and solve all of this, the status quo IS NOT IT.
Bottom line: Something has to be done to change this mess. If a lottery is not the solution, then SOMETHING ELSE had better be the solution.
I think we agree that the lottery, with safeguards built in, would benefit the state's bottom line. While the legislature probably wouldn't reduce taxes, maybe credits or refunds to residents might be an option. A state lottery would be a step. Don't think the revenue could keep up with the overall need (infrastructure, healthcare, education, etc.).

Given how other destinations are being very aggressive in attracting tourists, state may see a decrease in tax revenues from the visitor industry in the future, further compounding the problems of over taxation with the high cost of infrastructure improvement.

While the mess seems insurmountable, it's not impossible to overcome. Ideas there were considered taboo (e.g. casinos at selected areas in Hawaii) may need to be reconsidered. Will the politicians have the courage to move ahead to save the islands?
johnny

AOL

#11 Jan 12, 2008
ralvic wrote:
The casino you're lured into coming
in,be it from the neon lights or the
thought of making a fast buck.But you
have the choice of opening the door
and going in.The same can't be said
when purchasing a lottery ticket,mainly because you have no choice of opening the door to the
gas station,grocery store or whereever else that might sell lottery tickets.The seduction of buy-
ing a lottery ticket is greater,and
thus probably habit forming.To induce
people thru these means of while they're shopping or filling up gas
is unlawful.

Remember the word CHOICE, everyone has a choice we can't be looking out for everyone who has a compulsive gambling habit it's their choice not the government to baby sit them for their habits to which they may have made to purchase the lottery tickets. A lottery is much less a burden on society than drugs or
alcohol but remember we also have a choice in those two too.
And we also need to know that big brother in Las Vegas has always taken good care of our irresponsible lawmakers by extending a warm aloha to them by giving relatives of the lawmakers presents, cause we all know that they cannot take things from lobbyist or private companies with out declaring it on record? See the correlation there no to lottery yes to fat pocketbooks in Las Vegas!
So when we start talking about raising taxes to fund the states budget shortfalls, remember to keep the money in state then we could really see the true experience of having things fixed on a timely basis and not having to work two jobs just to make ends meet by the rising tax burden put on all of us, oh yeah there will be folks crying out that it will only cause another epidemic on health care help I say lets put the lottery in place for a couple of years and then see if it works or not? My idea is it would and it could probably pay for more medical care help from people who are of a weaker mind to make ill advised choices. If it doesn't then scrap it, we all have a choice that is what makes America so great the free will to make CHOICES on your own.
Fook Yuen Yamada

Lahaina, HI

#12 Jan 12, 2008
If a lottery were established and set percentages were allocated to predetermined budgets that would be great...therefore our politicians would not allow it.

Politicians would lose that power and influence. They would prefer to dictate budgets and raise taxes (i.e. property tax) to meet the needs of their campaign donors...I mean constituents.
Lanaki

Waipahu, HI

#13 Oct 14, 2008
Powerball! Bring it. It is the biggest and it's managed by the Multi-State Lottery Association ( http://www.musl.com/ ). Click on General Info and it will show you what each state does with the money. There are tons of benefits that will only make life on our beautiful islands better.

Besides, if someone in our state wins, where are they going to spend most of their money? That's right- here. That's even more moeny going back into our economy.

Unlawful? Change the laws! Immoral? How can improving hospitals, education, emergency services, economic development, environmental protection, retirement plans, tourism, and anything else that will enhance the future for our children be immoral?

We need more than a state-wide lottery. We need a multi-state lottery.
Thom

Waipahu, HI

#14 Oct 14, 2008
Stop worrying about the politicians. Lanaki is right. If our state can benefit from having a lottery, it's still a win-win. For those who don't want it, just don't play it. Simple.
Kamela

Waipahu, HI

#15 Oct 14, 2008
MeiLing wrote:
"we need to discourage outsiders from buying up our real estate"

Really? Where are you from Mei Ling? China?
TED TAKA

Honolulu, HI

#16 Feb 12, 2010
I WAS BORN IN HILO HAWAII, IN 1959, MOVED TO ILLINOIS FROM 1980-1999 BOUGHT LOTTERY TICKETS, IT NEVER CORRUPTED ME!!!! I HAVE LOST ALMOST EVERTHING, I HAVE WORKED SO HARD FOR BECAUSE OF THIS DAMN ECONOMY, SO HAS OUR STATE!!! GIVE US LOCALS A CHANCE TO BECOME A MILLIONARE BY STARTING A STATE LOTTERY, AND REGULATING (1) MILLION DOLLARS A MONTH INSTEAD OF 20, 30, 40,ETC. MILLION TO A SINGLE WINNER. THE ECONOMY WOULD SKY ROCKET HERE IN HAWAII, WITH (1) MILLION DOLLAR WINNER A WEEK!!! LET ME KNOW WHAT I CAN DO TO HELP GET THIS STARTED!!!!!!!!!
Hilo Wendy

Haiku, HI

#17 Jan 4, 2011
I have lived in Oregon, California and Missouri, all states that have implimented lotteries under the guise of helping fund education and keeping taxes down. I now live in Hawaii. I have nothing against lotteries, I love the chance to win millions of dollars, however, I do have a problem with govt corruption and lies. Take a look at the failing education systems in place in the states I mentioned. Look at the over taxation and crumbling governments, especially in California, it speaks for itself.
If you want a lottery here, great, but don't expect it to fix any social, govt or economic problems.

vote lotto

Honolulu, HI

#18 May 3, 2011
chances are the darn politicians will get more money to spend than they ever thought..tourism? huh wats that ?aloha versus lotto which sales or commercializes most ?
..or is it the rich dont want a heinkien spam musibi eatting local living next to them ?
mara

Wailuku, HI

#19 Sep 20, 2011
someone in las vegas is paying off the politician in hawaii to not bring gamgling and lottery to hawaii. anyone know his name?????

just saying!!!!!
Dan

Honolulu, HI

#20 Oct 25, 2011
Allow a state lottery here in Hawaii. Put the proceeds directly at the school level and not the D.O.E. system which is a black hole of failure and red tape. For those opposing a lottery based on your lame excuses (e.g. will lead to worse problems, I've lived in other states and it doesn't work, blah, blah) don't play and stop your moaning. If you're part of the religious right camp that opposes gambling because of some sort of sin then look at your minister's BMW, Mercedes, Lexus and have him/her explain why why gambling and money are wrong. Damn hypocrites! Hypocritical people of the robe are 10x worse than any form of lottery. Give me a break! Wake up people! Stop going to Las Vegas and spending all your money there and keep it here is Hawaii. Is it that difficult to understand?
Squid

Honolulu, HI

#21 Mar 30, 2012
Dan and Lanaki said exactly what I wanted to say.
Think about this next election year.
hugh

Calgary, Canada

#22 May 9, 2012
reply to mara,yeah another mormon

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