A protest takes root - Hawaii News

There are 84 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Dec 24, 2009, titled A protest takes root - Hawaii News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

KIoni Dudley, a retired professor and high school teacher, led the battle against D.R. Horton-Schuler Hawaii in its bid to urbanize 1,500 acres of prime agricultural land in Ewa to build 12,000 homes in a community it calls Hoopili.

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boondoggs

Honolulu, HI

#62 Dec 24, 2009
windward resident wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe a solution to population growth is to impose a residency requirement so only locals can buy housing, not people to move here from Fort Worth or South Carolina. You agree?
that's EXACTLY right
annonymous

Pearl City, HI

#63 Dec 24, 2009
one of the ground rules of this forum is that posters are free to remain annonymous

if this wasn't the case, then there would be much less free flow of information --- not everyone has the luxury on this island to be a Dudley or Golujuch, Jr. who are in positions to say whatever they want or whenever they

posters should not be bullied into sharing there personal information --- as this is a marketplace of ideas --- not a marketplace of personal attack
elijahhawaii

Anderson, SC

#64 Dec 24, 2009
windward resident wrote:
<quoted text>I've never been to your cities, Fort Worth or Simsonville, South Carolina so don't know what they are like. And frankly, I got no interest in ever visiting those places. I'm happy and comfortable here in K-town. But families grow and new ones need a place to live. I love my kids; one's just married and ready to start a family. I don't want them to live in my house forever and they have been looking for an affordable home to buy. Windward side is out of their price range, and yes, they looked at town homes in Ewa Beach and Waipahu. So laugh if you like. Maybe a solution to population growth is to impose a residency requirement so only locals can buy housing, not people to move here from Fort Worth or South Carolina. You agree?
He mana'o hupo wale kou. Ina he koko Hawaii kou, e kupaa mai i ka poe i kela me keia wahi ma ka paeaina, aole ma kou one hanau ponoi wale no. Oiaio anei neia manao o'u ?
windward resident

Kailua Kona, HI

#65 Dec 24, 2009
Kala mai ia'u. If you are truly one of us, my apology. Sadly, the DOE system never let us learn and study our own language when I was growing up. It was Spanish, French or German in the schools. What a shame, no? I will send my grandchild, when he or she is born, to the Samuel M. Kamakau Charter School right next door so they can perpetuate the culture, as I hope you do.
windward resident

Kailua Kona, HI

#66 Dec 24, 2009
But Elijah, why you live in Fort Worth, Texas? You in the army or something? If so, Merry Christmas anyway and I hope you get to come home soon. Weather is good right now and get ahi running, just in time for new years.
choose

Mililani, HI

#67 Dec 24, 2009
Need Jobs wrote:
My husband is a carpenter and we live in Village Park, Waipahu. He has been unemployed for a long time. I work full time, but we need his income to really support our kids and family. So many of our friends are out of work right now. This project just like the rail would put lots of our construction workers back on the job for a long long time. Please support us.
Everyone else must often choose a NEW career when they are unable to find work; so why not construction workers? Why do we have to place money into a black hole so that your husband and others can get jobs? Go figure it out like the rest of human race does!

Since: Oct 09

Honolulu, HI

#68 Dec 24, 2009
annonymous wrote:
one of the ground rules of this forum is that posters are free to remain annonymous
if this wasn't the case, then there would be much less free flow of information --- not everyone has the luxury on this island to be a Dudley or Golojuch, Jr. who are in positions to say whatever they want or whenever they
posters should not be bullied into sharing there personal information --- as this is a marketplace of ideas --- not a marketplace of personal attack
You know being anonymous is fine as long as you are respectful and not just throwing out garbage. If you are going to call names and give bad info I am going to call that person out and to accountability.
Michael Lingle

Honolulu, HI

#69 Dec 24, 2009
Michael Golojuch Jr wrote:
<quoted text>
You know being anonymous is fine as long as you are respectful and not just throwing out garbage. If you are going to call names and give bad info I am going to call that person out and to accountability.
Eh, Mike. What's up with the Lingle picture in your avatar? Is THAT respectful?

Shouldn't go around preaching "respectful" when you ain't respectful neither. Kinda lacks "credibility," if you know what I mean. Oh! Don't know what that means?

This IS the marketplace of ideas.

Not the marketplace of morons.

Their headquarters are in and around mufi's orffice.

Go there.
roids

Honolulu, HI

#70 Dec 25, 2009
windward resident wrote:
I've always thought that Molokai should be where all the truck farms and agriculture is to be located. The residents are fiercly protective of their lands and after pineapple shut down, they opposed Molokai Ranch and other resort development on those lands. They want the rural lifestyle and they want to keep it in ag. That could be one idea for keeping agriculture alive and viable in the state.
Rural lifestyle, sustainable living. There's another word for that kind of living - it's called poverty!
roids

Honolulu, HI

#71 Dec 25, 2009
Dudley and his suppoters are the selfish and greedy people posting in this forum.

They have the mentallity and attitude of "I got mine, now screw eveyone else!"

All of the lame excuses he uses to stop developement are the same BS that was said about Castle and Cooke when he bought his property in Mililani.

"Let's not build more schools because they'll only fill up with more children." Very, very selfish and ignorant attitude don't you think?
Ann Freed

Mililani, HI

#72 Dec 25, 2009
Michael Golojuch Jr wrote:
All of you that think Dudley did a good job answer these questions:
Where will your kids and every other person's children live? With the projected population growth they are going to need to be able to live some where and there are not enough houses.
If they do not build Ho'opili can they develop the North Shore or how about Windward Oahu?
Those claiming that we need to protect the land to grow food - when was the last time that you bought locally grown food over the cheaper imported produce?
See the major problem here is that Dudley FAILED to read the Ewa Development plan before buying out here. It is not D.R. Horton's fault that Dudley was an uneducated buyer.
It appears the Star-Bulletin is following in the Advertiser's footsteps in not researching their stories. None of what Dudley spouts is based in reality and he makes a lot of the crap he says up.
DR Horton should have had a phasing plan but that was not Dudley's doing so he did not make a difference just a loud noise with no facts to back it up!
DR Horton's Homes would hardly be affordable, would add to gridlock and decrease available AG land. The Ewa development plan was and is just plain wrong. More of DPP giving away the farm - literally. Central and West Oahu should not be bearing the brunt of overpriced residential development. Kioni did us all a favor!
roids

Honolulu, HI

#73 Dec 25, 2009
Ann Freed wrote:
<quoted text>
DR Horton's Homes would hardly be affordable, would add to gridlock and decrease available AG land. The Ewa development plan was and is just plain wrong. More of DPP giving away the farm - literally. Central and West Oahu should not be bearing the brunt of overpriced residential development. Kioni did us all a favor!
Ann? More BS. Who are you to determine what is and what isn't affordable? All the properties developed so far have all been sold!

You want affordability? Go get a job, work hard and maybe you won't have to complain about affordability.

Since: Oct 09

Honolulu, HI

#74 Dec 25, 2009
Ewa 4 Ewa wrote:
Sorry Mike, I'm not "Glen".
There are a LOT MORE PEOPLE who think you and Timson are full of it than you are aware- obviously!
I'm also not Panos, or any of the other Honolulu Traffic guys.
People like you and Timson are the PROBLEM. Lots of Ewa and Kapolei residents know it.
Were not FOOLED so easily by you Cons.
Really?!!? We are the problem?

Funny when I am out in the community I have people come up to me and thank me for standing up to Dudley and his few followers.

In fact just today I was at Target and Costco running some errands and I had a couple of complete strangers come up to me and thank me for all my hard volunteer work for the community. I know this has happened to Maeda Timson too because I have been there when it has happened. So once again you do not know what you are talking about.

Question when was the last time a complete stranger came up to you and thanked you for all that you do? My better guess is never.

FYI - You can check out our latest community improvement project on-line at


You know who the problem is, all you people that say "NO" to everything. You have yours and you do not care about anyone else. That is sad, especially during the holidays.

Since: Oct 09

Honolulu, HI

#75 Dec 25, 2009
sorry the link did not go through try www. youtube. com/ watch?v=mgRITwLKHBY (make sure you take out the spaces)

Since: Oct 09

Honolulu, HI

#76 Dec 25, 2009
Okay no links of any kind just go to YouTube and enter mgolojuch to see the video!

Since: Oct 09

Honolulu, HI

#77 Dec 25, 2009
That was suppose to be You Tube dot com
Go back

Kapolei, HI

#78 Dec 25, 2009
boondoggs wrote:
the only difference between Krapolei and suburban kansas, is that in KS the roads & highways are logical (I have never taken an exit on a mainland highway and found that you can't get back onto the highway after you exit)& the cookie cutter houses cost 70K not 300+K.
Well, shit, Haas, when y'all goin back to Kansas?
Cmon Jr

Kapolei, HI

#79 Dec 25, 2009
Michael Golojuch Jr wrote:
<quoted text>
Really?!!? We are the problem?
Funny when I am out in the community I have people come up to me and thank me for standing up to Dudley and his few followers.
In fact just today I was at Target and Costco running some errands and I had a couple of complete strangers come up to me and thank me for all my hard volunteer work for the community. I know this has happened to Maeda Timson too because I have been there when it has happened. So once again you do not know what you are talking about.
Question when was the last time a complete stranger came up to you and thanked you for all that you do? My better guess is never.
FYI - You can check out our latest community improvement project on-line at **** mgRITwLKHBY
You know who the problem is, all you people that say "NO" to everything. You have yours and you do not care about anyone else. That is sad, especially during the holidays.
I witnessed the gratitude towards you from the transient homeless individual from downtown. He was showing you appreciation for the small donation you made towards his well being. Other than that one individual do you have any other supporters?
Fe- up tax payer

Honolulu, HI

#80 Dec 25, 2009
local boy wrote:
KEEP HAWAIIAN LANDS IN HAWAIIAN HANDS!
You don't matter, you stay on the mainland.
Stumpy

Kaneohe, HI

#81 Dec 25, 2009
roids wrote:
<quoted text>Rural lifestyle, sustainable living. There's another word for that kind of living - it's called poverty!
Urban living, living in the city depending on those country people to feed you.- it's called "helpless."

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