Smooth ride - News

Smooth ride - News

There are 79 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from May 12, 2009, titled Smooth ride - News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Grant Larson, who has been hit by a vehicle three times in six years while riding his bike in Honolulu, says he has little faith in the city improving bicycling facilities.

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PayUp

Troy, MI

#1 May 12, 2009
Pearl Harbor bike path extension and Kailua Beach bike path bridge, both at a cost of about $850,000.
I hope the expenses are coming from the license fees on those bikes.

“Too small to notice”

Since: Jun 08

Kahuku , Ka'U

#2 May 12, 2009
Just like that 3 $ battery recycling fee you pay when you buy a car battery. Where did it go? It sure ain't recycling old batteries.

40 years ago I used to regularly commute via bicycle on the Aiea/Pearl Harbor portion of the bike path. It was sure nice to get separated from traffic. Especially when there is zero shoulder on the roads. We have all had the experience of standing by the curb and having a truck or bus whoosh by inches from your nose. The transportation division in this state inherited a system of donkey paths and their brains are still stuck in donkey mode. Quaint, but not very useful.
Mike

Alexandria, VA

#3 May 12, 2009
Given Hawaii's great climate and outdoor life style it's criminal that Hawaii does no have a first class bike path system. I moved to Northern Virginia from Oahu (after 35yrs) and the bike path system here is great. I can ride from my house about 10 miles south of DC all the way to Mall or Congress without going on any street. Hawaii could learn a lot from the DC systems. Bike and mass transit both.
Unfortunately the political leaders in HI are so tunnel visioned that I doubt they will do much. Look at their track record on Mass Transit. Pathetic.
I love Hawaii and miss it but it needs to move into the 21st century in these areas especially.
Lolo

Honolulu, HI

#4 May 12, 2009
The 1999 plan contained $77 million in projects in urban Honolulu over 20 years, including a bike path that ran from Kahala to Pearl City. That path, meant to have been completed in five years, remains largely unfinished because of lack of planning and money.

If the city had spent a fraction of a fraction of what it had spent so far to promote mufi's rail this bikeway would have been completed.

As a long time cyclist, anything is better than nothing. However, without significant driver education, there will always be a problem. Bike lanes sometimes lull you into a false sense of security. I've see cars drift into the bike lanes many times and once got clipped by a Waste Management Truck that had drifted into the bike lane on Nimitz Highway.
Retired Cyclist

Honolulu, HI

#5 May 12, 2009
I no longer do long distance bike rides anymore because I've had too many close calls. When you ride a bike in Hawaii, it's not a matter of "if" you're going to get hit but "when".

The key is to educate drivers about the rights of cyclist and to take the distractions away from drivers. A good start is that it no longer will be legal to use a cell phone after July 1, 2009. Unfortunately, it's only a beginning and the not the end solution. I once had a driver in Waipahu yell at me to get on the sidewalk where I belong. Driver education? Sighhhh!!!!!
Traveling Bike Fan

Mölndal, Sweden

#6 May 12, 2009
We worked hard a decade ago to get the master plan by the voters and underway. It never suited the purposes of city or state government, so of course it never got done. To isay that they have been working away at it for 10 years is cynical at best. Anyone who travels in Europe knows that it's possible to serve the needs of drivers, bikers and pedestrians. There are protected bikeways EVERYWHERE here, and drivers give pedestrians and cyclists lots of leeway. People of all ages bike all year round. Parents don't worry about their kids getting hit as they ride to school. Hawaii has such perfect weather -- it's abominable that there is virtually nowhere near Honolulu, even Manoa, where tourists or residents can ride safely.
tsuanmi

Kapaau, HI

#7 May 12, 2009
Much of the problem is having the land to build these bike paths on. It's the same reason given for building elevated rail. There might be a growing ground swell for cycling but if the city were to try to convert traffic lanes to bicycle lanes, the protest would be more akin to a tsunami, dwarfing any groundswell.
manini

Kapaau, HI

#8 May 12, 2009
Wait a minute. They built a bike path from Weed Circle in Haleiwa to Crozier Loop in Waialua. The bike path parallels Waialua Beach Road. On any given day you will see cyclists riding in the traffic lanes rather than the bike path. On weekends they ride several abreast on the roadway. I might add with an "in your face attitude".
This particular bike path cost the taxpayers slightly over $1 million dollars. I can't see spending that kind of money on similar projects in other areas of the county if they go largely unused as this path is.
flexo

Kapaau, HI

#9 May 12, 2009
Notice the accompanying picture. Sean Aronson is holding up traffic and shouldn't be on the roadway at all, let alone the center lane. I don't care what the law says about his right to be there, common sense says this is an accident waiting to happen. Sean is displaying the typical arrogant attitude of cyclists of this ilk. Flexing his muscles, trying to intimdate the motorists. You see the same behavior all across the island.
Traveling Bike Fan

Mölndal, Sweden

#10 May 12, 2009
tsuanmi wrote:
Much of the problem is having the land to build these bike paths on. It's the same reason given for building elevated rail. There might be a growing ground swell for cycling but if the city were to try to convert traffic lanes to bicycle lanes, the protest would be more akin to a tsunami, dwarfing any groundswell.
I'd like to see a bikeway along the west side to Makaha, and through the middle to the North Shore. There's still some patches of open land on Oahu, but in another ten years, those will be history too. Maybe one of the outer islands should go for it. I know my friends and I would come back just to ride a good long stretch. Young international tourists avoid Hawaii, not so much because of the expense, but because there's so little to do outdoors without spending endless hours in a car. I don't see how a train will help any of Oahu's urban blight. Bikeways cost a few million to build and maintain, not billions. And they appeal to health nuts everywhere when they are given respect.
Twowheeler

Honolulu, HI

#11 May 12, 2009
I certainly appreciate the effort, though there is a long way to go. It's stunning when you look at a city such as Portland. My favorite sight there last month was seeing some parking stalls on the street transformed to bike parking leaving the sidewalk clear for walking. It makes a powerful statement to all that bikes and pedestrians are priorities in the street design.

These posts often have complaints from drivers about bikers road manners and vice versa. I confess I'm neither angel nor devil as a biker. But we must remember that those discussions can distract from road design policy, where the most meaningful improvements can be made that make drivers' and biker's behavior less critical.

I am also very very careful about wearing a helmet, light color clothes, and using lights at night. More of us could surely do better in those regards. It not only helps make things safer, it better announces our valid claim to belonging on the road.
Localguy

Aiea, HI

#12 May 12, 2009
Whenever I visit Japan, especially Tokyo, I am impressed that so many people are able to ride bikes in an environment even more congested than Honolulu. Women are seen with bikes with children going shopping, etc.
The main reason is because motorists are more tolerant of bike riders than we are here.
JAFO

San Diego, CA

#13 May 12, 2009
manini wrote:
Wait a minute. They built a bike path from Weed Circle in Haleiwa to Crozier Loop in Waialua. The bike path parallels Waialua Beach Road. On any given day you will see cyclists riding in the traffic lanes rather than the bike path. On weekends they ride several abreast on the roadway. I might add with an "in your face attitude".
This particular bike path cost the taxpayers slightly over $1 million dollars. I can't see spending that kind of money on similar projects in other areas of the county if they go largely unused as this path is.
Look at the condition of the bike path for debris. They build bike paths but don't maintain them as well as they should.
Jerry Okamura

Hilo, HI

#14 May 12, 2009
Anyone who thinks it is a good thing to ride a bike where there are a whole lot of cars, which are travellling at a much greater speed than the bike is, and is much larger, has got to have rocks in their heads. If these bike lanes were not along side a busy highway, that would be another matter entirely, but of course they are not.
Kauai Annie

Kailua Kona, HI

#15 May 12, 2009
Sean, where's your helmet? If you've been hit 3 times by cars it seems that a helmet might be a logical investment!

I'm a bicyclist who commutes to work. I wear a helmet, bright upper body clothing and, when I'm on the highway during commuting hours, bright ankle bands that draw even more attention to me. These measures, and adherence to all roadway laws, have been proven to decrease the number of incidents involving bicycles.

Dress brightly, act like a car and remember what the law says: a bicycle must stay as far to the right as is practicable: so take the lane when safety deems it necessary!
Sam I am

Kaneohe, HI

#16 May 12, 2009
Gee, I have been waiting for 25 years for the city and state to complete the last section of the bike path between Depot Road and Fort Weaver Road. Its just a small a--ed bridge that has to be surfaced but it has to be the most complex work project the world has ever seen. The city or state will take years to plan and let bids for the project. % boy scouts and $200. worth of material could complete this bridge in one day. But here we are still waiting after 25 years. Its sure hard to call this progress.
Dakar

Honolulu, HI

#17 May 12, 2009
take the choo-choo instead, as that's going to eat up all the transportation $
FlexoFangul

Dallas, TX

#18 May 12, 2009
flexo wrote:
Notice the accompanying picture. Sean Aronson is holding up traffic and shouldn't be on the roadway at all, let alone the center lane. I don't care what the law says about his right to be there, common sense says this is an accident waiting to happen. Sean is displaying the typical arrogant attitude of cyclists of this ilk. Flexing his muscles, trying to intimdate the motorists. You see the same behavior all across the island.
Notice your attitude. "I don't care what the law says about his right to be there."

Common sense says to slow down and let cyclists do what the law has instructed them to do. You are displaying the typical arrogant attitude of too many motorists in Hawaii, who no longer know the meaning of patience, respect, or aloha, never mind abiding by laws.
OneKanaka

Honolulu, HI

#19 May 12, 2009
The city could add a bike path onto the planned rail system; add a walking path also! It would be enclosed and just under the rail.
Moke Local

Hilo, HI

#20 May 12, 2009
There is not a day that goes by when I'm sitting in traffic at a traffic light in downtown waiting my turn for the light to turn green here comes a bike rider weaving between cars getting to the front of the light and crossing the intersection(against the RED). When the light turns green i proceed only to past the bike rider and catch another light and the whole process repeats. Hey I have NO PROBLEM sharing the road as long as the riders share the same rules as motorist do.

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