Blind businessman sues SBA for Web si...

Blind businessman sues SBA for Web site access - Hawaii Business

There are 25 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Aug 18, 2009, titled Blind businessman sues SBA for Web site access - Hawaii Business. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Virgil Stinnett, owner of Honolulu-based business Good News HI, which provides food services for military units, wants to get a message across.

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Flexo

Keauhou, HI

#1 Aug 18, 2009
If it was that important to him to make the application, he should have requested the paper application and finished it up instead of trying unsuccessfully for a year. And with his lawyers comments that they are looking at other federal websites, it all smells like lawsuits to make some money instead of lawsuits to open up some eyes.
Stumpy

Kaneohe, HI

#2 Aug 18, 2009
It's all about the $$$$$$$$. Not kidding anyone.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#3 Aug 18, 2009
Technically, 99.9999999% of all websites break this law. Hmmmm... where to start, where to start.

Sorry, my blog is located on the second floor, and it doesn't have handicap access.
low standards

Honolulu, HI

#4 Aug 18, 2009
The SBA is a government organization that has to meet federal standards. Stinnet is a small businessperson who should be able to use the site.

If they did their website correctly, the burden would not be on the small businessman to somehow get a paper app, translate it into something he can hear, and then reverse the process to send it back. He has already bought himself the equipment that turns words into sound, apparently. He has not lounged around waiting for things to fall into his lap. Come on, he's blind with a 39 employee business, obviously without any help from the gov't. Our facilities, including websites, should be open to all as long as the accomodation is reasonable.

Put some thought into this, posters, instead of just resenting anyone who tries to make government comply with what it's supposed to be doing. I pay for the gov't, I want it to do the right thing.
Union Carpetbagger

Honolulu, HI

#5 Aug 18, 2009
just another crook trying to leech money out of people.
Kehaulani

Alameda, CA

#6 Aug 18, 2009
Suing is just another way of robbery! Trying to work this whole thing out without suing would be opening eyes. I'm sure SBA would make changes as needed to help the blind. The things that people do for $$$...
Just Fix It

Waimea, HI

#7 Aug 18, 2009
I'm acquainted with Virgil, and he's a good guy. An outspoken advocate for the blind, and in that respect he occasionally will rub people the wrong way, but we need people like him who aren't afraid to speak up for their own as well as others' rights.

A productive, involved person like him contributes far more to society than many, if not most, of us. Even if you choose to take a cold, impersonal standpoint in this - people like Virgil are truly a good investment of taxpayer money. Far better than someone who chooses to wallow in need - often, then depending on us, as taxpayers - because of physical or other limitations that they may have.

And knowing him, it's definitely not about trying to get money off a lawsuit. It's about trying to correct a wrong, for the benefit of many.
Primo Warrior

United States

#8 Aug 18, 2009
Maybe the U.S. government gotta take another look at the Americans with Disabilities Act ??? This guy sounds like he's digging for gold through his lawyer.
Maverick

Honolulu, HI

#9 Aug 18, 2009
Just Fix It wrote:
I'm acquainted with Virgil, and he's a good guy. An outspoken advocate for the blind, and in that respect he occasionally will rub people the wrong way, but we need people like him who aren't afraid to speak up for their own as well as others' rights.
A productive, involved person like him contributes far more to society than many, if not most, of us. Even if you choose to take a cold, impersonal standpoint in this - people like Virgil are truly a good investment of taxpayer money. Far better than someone who chooses to wallow in need - often, then depending on us, as taxpayers - because of physical or other limitations that they may have.
And knowing him, it's definitely not about trying to get money off a lawsuit. It's about trying to correct a wrong, for the benefit of many.
A few years ago there was a lawyer confined to a wheelchair that went around suing small businesses because they weren't ADA compliant. He also claimed to be doing it for the benefit of the disabled. While the businesses were forced to comply he merrily collected big paydays.
Just Fix It

Waimea, HI

#10 Aug 18, 2009
Maverick wrote:
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A few years ago there was a lawyer confined to a wheelchair that went around suing small businesses because they weren't ADA compliant. He also claimed to be doing it for the benefit of the disabled. While the businesses were forced to comply he merrily collected big paydays.
I met that guy before too, and he was an *sshole in person - clearly after the money, bitter and rude.

I'd be shocked (and mostly, very disappointed) if Virgil was doing this for the money. From what I know of him, it's really about the principle of the whole thing.

We shouldn't jump to conclusions any time a lawsuit is filed in a case like this. Sometimes it can be your last and only resort. for better or worse. Lawsuits are not a fun process to go through on either side.
Pretty Funny

United States

#11 Aug 18, 2009
"I'm not asking for special treatment," he said.

No, just do something for me that you don't have to do for everyone else. Hey, Virgil...that's special treatment!
All about the Money

Honolulu, HI

#12 Aug 18, 2009
THIS WAS NOT HIS LAST AND ONLY RESORT. Come on people. I'm sure that if he had done the paper app it would not have taken a year. I'm sure the SBA DIDN'T come out and say "We don't want to service blind people". Give me a break. IT's ALL ABOUT THE $. I could see if he is suing them to get it done correctly and not for any compensation.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#13 Aug 18, 2009
There's really no other way to say it: He's legally blind, and maybe he SHOULD be asking for special treatment. Can't call the SBA and ASK? For him it's probably not about pride...

It's probably about making an example of them. You know... how, in war, you shoot randomly to instill fear among prisoners. Or how a teacher can publicly ridicule a student, degrading him, instilling fear in the rest of the class. Now, I'm not saying that any of these examples are moral, on the contrary they are very immoral.

Yes, yes, it is a harsh analogy, but I get my point across.

He's blind. So is his wife. He should be asking for help. I suppose it would hurt his pride to have to ask for special attention, but this is like strangling your hen to get to the eggs.
JoeLocal

Honolulu, HI

#14 Aug 18, 2009
Just Fix It wrote:
<quoted text>I met that guy before too, and he was an *sshole in person - clearly after the money, bitter and rude.
I'd be shocked (and mostly, very disappointed) if Virgil was doing this for the money. From what I know of him, it's really about the principle of the whole thing.
We shouldn't jump to conclusions any time a lawsuit is filed in a case like this. Sometimes it can be your last and only resort. for better or worse. Lawsuits are not a fun process to go through on either side.
You would be "shocked"? Funny thing is I would be Pi$$ed Off!

If I didn't have a computer, who can I sue for lack of access? C'mon... its always about the $$$.
JoeLocal

Honolulu, HI

#15 Aug 18, 2009
kamuela wrote:
There's really no other way to say it: He's legally blind, and maybe he SHOULD be asking for special treatment. Can't call the SBA and ASK? For him it's probably not about pride...
It's probably about making an example of them. You know... how, in war, you shoot randomly to instill fear among prisoners. Or how a teacher can publicly ridicule a student, degrading him, instilling fear in the rest of the class. Now, I'm not saying that any of these examples are moral, on the contrary they are very immoral.
Yes, yes, it is a harsh analogy, but I get my point across.
He's blind. So is his wife. He should be asking for help. I suppose it would hurt his pride to have to ask for special attention, but this is like strangling your hen to get to the eggs.
Doesnt the government provide special tax, health benefits and programs for those with disabilities?
alice

Los Altos, CA

#16 Aug 18, 2009
Kehaulani wrote:
Suing is just another way of robbery! Trying to work this whole thing out without suing would be opening eyes. I'm sure SBA would make changes as needed to help the blind. The things that people do for $$$...
very well said
Stumpy

Kaneohe, HI

#17 Aug 18, 2009
So many bathrooms have been closed down because of the ADA, I say push their wheelchairs out onto the H1 during rush hour. I'm tired of having to pucker 100% all the way home, and I don't always make it.
alice

Los Altos, CA

#18 Aug 18, 2009
pokes her stumpy
Beat 49

Houston, TX

#19 Aug 18, 2009
Hey, Alice... you're missing your soap operas, crazy bitch
Suggestion Box

Waimea, HI

#20 Aug 18, 2009
Stumpy wrote:
So many bathrooms have been closed down because of the ADA, I say push their wheelchairs out onto the H1 during rush hour. I'm tired of having to pucker 100% all the way home, and I don't always make it.
Then perhaps your name should be "Dumpy" instead of "Stumpy."

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