Senators expect movement on Akaka Bil...

Senators expect movement on Akaka Bill - Hawaii News

There are 45 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Jan 11, 2010, titled Senators expect movement on Akaka Bill - Hawaii News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Concerns over the language of the Akaka Bill continue to be worked out, but both of Hawaii's senators say they expect legislation granting federal recognition to native Hawaiians will be taken up by Congress shortly.

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“Kokokahi -We are all one blood”

Since: Mar 08

United States

#2 Jan 11, 2010
For 10 years the Akaka bill has always been passed by its committees in both the House and Senate. That's no big deal. It has happened in the 106th, 107th, 108th, 109th, 110th, and 111th Congresses -- a total of 6 times in each of the House and Senate. But it has never passed the full Senate, and hopefully it won't pass this time either. I'm sure they'd like to "pass this as quickly as possible." They've been saying that for a decade.
Lani

Los Angeles, CA

#3 Jan 11, 2010
So much for that "transparency" in government.
oh oh

Hauula, HI

#4 Jan 11, 2010
We're trying to work out an arrangement whereby we can come up with a measure that everyone agrees upon," Inouye said.

IN SECRET AGAIN AND AGAIN

---This is an oligarchy--a tyranny---without proper hearings and input

Throw out our Senators--The have no respect for the process...Their desired ends justify the means

This is not how Government should work but they are greedy and lustful in power---DO NOT VOTE FOR THEM AND GET INVOLVED AGAINST THESE POWERFUL MANIPULATORS
alice

Hanalei, HI

#5 Jan 11, 2010
it will be thrown out bu the supreme court
Cart Horse Before

Honolulu, HI

#6 Jan 11, 2010
After more than 10 years of trying to invent a make believe Indian tribe, Inouye again says it's a done deal.

Akaka is NOT the author of this trash. Inouye is. Inouye is USING Akaka to put a Hawaiian face on this.

The article depicts Inouye pretending this thing will get to the floor and these disagreements, are trivial.

Such a minimizing of Lingle's serious concerns as minor, certainly cannot be expected endear the Governor or the AG.

But the constant pitch of Inouye, using Akaka, since OHA lost its butt in the 2000 Rice decision was "It's going to pass this year."

2000 went by, as did the following years of 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008.

And in 2009, yet another devastating US Supreme Court decision to OHA, wherein the High Court specificly limited the 5(f) lands to only five purposes, one of which is "for the betterment of the conditions of native Hawaiians, as defined in the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act, 1920, i.e., "not less than one-half" native Hawaiian.

That was a UNANIMOUS 9-0 decision.

In other words, there is no room to put a fake Indian tribe comprised of folks with as little as 1/64th part-Hawaiian on the only lands they could ever hope to try and take to play out this con-job.

If passed and signed into law, Inouye is correct in that there will be movement.

Movement of this legislation, right across the street and placed on to the High Altar of the US Supreme Court.

The ten year effort will be sacrificed as a waste of everybody's time, only because the measure is inconsistent with the 1913 Sandoval warning, 2000 OHA and 2009 Ceded lands cases.
Stumpy

Kaneohe, HI

#8 Jan 11, 2010
Will all the Filipinos that have the "100% Hawaiian" tattooed across their backs be given free land too? What about Micronesians with the map of the Hawaiian islands on their legs, does that qualify? And then there's the white women with tripals on the necks, this is going to be a nightmare at the feeding trough.
Jerry Okamura

Kapolei, HI

#9 Jan 11, 2010
At the same time that our Senators want to give Native Hawaiians more rights, they are supporting a healthcare proposal that will take away everyone elses rights. Does anyone out there see a disconnect?
bumbercrop

Ewa Beach, HI

#10 Jan 11, 2010
Not to worry.. they will spend all their time on the bogus health plan bill again. No other issue will be addressed until this one issue is crammed down our throats. Do you think BO gives a crap about Hawaii other than the weather?
It Is About Time

United States

#11 Jan 11, 2010
Thank goodness. It is about time that the Hawaiian people received the same recognition enjoyed by other natimve people of this country. More importantly, this will protect our ali'i trusts (mostly Kamehameha Schools, which was created by the will of a private individual) from the onslaught of constant attacks by some who are never satisfied until they have everything. I am glad that we finally have a president who uniquely understands the struggle of people of color in this country, is an advocate of justice and has agreed to sign the Bill once it reaches his desk. There will be great cause for celebration in the Hawaiian community. Dear Messrs. Akaka and Inouye - please move this through with all dispatch, place it on President Obama's desk for him to sign and then imua kakou! Thank you for all your hard work.
alice

Hanalei, HI

#12 Jan 11, 2010
Akaka is a pathetic old man who is being used by big money interests and stupid activists with dishonest stories of the past and a desire to cash in.
You Fool

Honolulu, HI

#13 Jan 11, 2010
It Is About Time wrote:
this will protect our ali'i trusts (mostly Kamehameha Schools, which was created by the will of a private individual) from the onslaught of constant attacks.. Thank you for all your hard work.
You apparently are most unaware about what the alii using their European import concept of "the Monarchy" did to the common native Hawaiians in the Mahele of 1848.

Kam School is not only an expression of Bernice Bishop's guilt in having been a beneficiary of the crime against the common native Hawaiians who were cheated out of their one-third share of their lands in the Mahele of 1848, Kam School is also just another example of the alii mindset to ingratiate the victims into owing the alii, their successors in interest, in a perpetual state of indebtedness.

After all, that is why the alii did not give the common native Hawaiians their one-third share in the Mahele of 1848. It was designed to keep the commoners in a perpetual state of poverty.

This applies to ALL of these "alii trusts" you want to protect with a fake Indian tribe.
Quit Smoking Grass

United States

#14 Jan 11, 2010
You Fool wrote:
<quoted text>
You apparently are most unaware about what the alii using their European import concept of "the Monarchy" did to the common native Hawaiians in the Mahele of 1848.
Kam School is not only an expression of Bernice Bishop's guilt in having been a beneficiary of the crime against the common native Hawaiians who were cheated out of their one-third share of their lands in the Mahele of 1848, Kam School is also just another example of the alii mindset to ingratiate the victims into owing the alii, their successors in interest, in a perpetual state of indebtedness.
After all, that is why the alii did not give the common native Hawaiians their one-third share in the Mahele of 1848. It was designed to keep the commoners in a perpetual state of poverty.
This applies to ALL of these "alii trusts" you want to protect with a fake Indian tribe.
Welcome to fantasy island! All bad was done by the ali'i. The haoles were little angels. B.S.! If Kamehameha Schools is so bad, why do all the wannabees want to send their children there? Why does everyone visit the Queen's Health Care net work facilities when they are sick? Take your head out of your a** and read history before commenting on it. The Mahele was instigated by the greedy haoles who wanted to own land in Hawaii. If not for the Ali'i Trusts, the Hawaiian people would not have had a world-class private school to send their kids to at a reasonable cost and they would not have had access to health care at a time when the population was in crisis.
Wankine

AOL

#15 Jan 11, 2010
If the two octogenarian senators, one of whom (Akaka) is certifiably senile, manage to get this mess through the Senate, the Supreme Court will throw it out. The racial quotient will be its undoing. When a large portion of the rationale behind this new "government" is based on the overthrow of the Hawaiian monarchy, how do we justify bestowing the financial benefits only on the Hawaiians? A large portion of the citizens of the Kingdom of Hawaii were non-Hawaiians. Every Japanese, Chinese, Haole, and other non-Hawaiian descendant of Kingdom citizens should sue.

The Kingdom is lost. This is the United States now. Deal with it.
realist

AOL

#16 Jan 11, 2010
This effort to hide and rush shows just how dis honest and deceitful our Senators (Akaka and Inouye) really are. They want to divide the Hawaii people without ever getting the Hawaii people to opine or vote on the matter. Then with the people divided and a new Indian tribe giving them money; the Democrats (or Inouyecrats) will keep absolute control of both the Hawaiian and non Hawaiian communities. Total shibai. Inouye is yakuza in person.
tutu e

United States

#17 Jan 11, 2010
Ken Conklin wrote:
For 10 years the Akaka bill has always been passed by its committees in both the House and Senate. That's no big deal. It has happened in the 106th, 107th, 108th, 109th, 110th, and 111th Congresses -- a total of 6 times in each of the House and Senate. But it has never passed the full Senate, and hopefully it won't pass this time either. I'm sure they'd like to "pass this as quickly as possible." They've been saying that for a decade.
one blood with different shades of RED!!!!!!!!!
Ikaika Ito

Honolulu, HI

#18 Jan 11, 2010
I wonder how the new version of the Akaka Bill defines "Native Hawaiian?" If it's like the Hawaiian Homestead Commission's definition of a person with 50% Native Hawaiian or more than kanaka maoli are screwed.
It Is About Time

United States

#19 Jan 11, 2010
Wow! All heat and no light. Actually and despite what "You Fool" writes, providing for the benefit of the makaainana by the alii is a very Hawaiian tradition. It was their kuleana to protect the land and resources for the good of the lahui. The Mahele was initiated due to the desire of foreigners, not natives. What is also of great note to me is the endless harping about transparency and fairness when it comes to passing the Akaka Bill. It has been hampered time and again. The contents of the Bill (approx. 50 pages long) are online for the world to see. The numbers and email addresses of the senators and all other officials are available for all so that they can make their opinions known. Thousand page bills such as the recent bail out was passed in the blink of an eye without half as much whining by the local electorate. When this Bill passess we will not have to worry about the whiners anymore, thank God.
alice

Hanalei, HI

#20 Jan 11, 2010
Quit Smoking Grass wrote:
<quoted text>
Welcome to fantasy island! All bad was done by the ali'i. The haoles were little angels. B.S.! If Kamehameha Schools is so bad, why do all the wannabees want to send their children there? Why does everyone visit the Queen's Health Care net work facilities when they are sick? Take your head out of your **** and read history before commenting on it. The Mahele was instigated by the greedy haoles who wanted to own land in Hawaii. If not for the Ali'i Trusts, the Hawaiian people would not have had a world-class private school to send their kids to at a reasonable cost and they would not have had access to health care at a time when the population was in crisis.
ummmm..no hon. The Mahele was passed by a Hawaiin legislature and signed by Kam III. Don't make up stories.
wanabe

Lahaina, HI

#21 Jan 11, 2010
What is a native Hawaiian ?
Chinee Hawaiian

Kailua Kona, HI

#22 Jan 11, 2010
Lemme see if I have this right? The Japanese and Chinese, aka Inouye and Akaka, as reps for the folks who screwed native Hawaiians are now going to unscrew them? Why doesn't it add up? Rice said the made up identity, Hawaiians, is unconstitutional. Has anyone ever heard of congress passing a bill saying the supreme court was wrong when they said Hawaiians are a made up racial group? Not even becoming a Royal Hawaiian Hote....oops I mean "Tribe" will change reality. So what is the game? The game is lie and lie some more so the poor fools who vote these scumbags into office time after time will do it again. Case is not much better because he plays the lying game too.
Pres Obama is too smart to let Hawaii's jokers pull him down into the dirt with them....

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