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An exhibit of late-19th-century quilts displays how monarchy supporters protested annexation through crafts By Joleen Oshiro POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Jan 10, 2010 Return to Paginated View In presenting the exhibit "Hawaiian Flag Quilts: Legacy of Patriotism" to mark the 50th anniversary of statehood, the Mission Houses Museum walks a fine line.
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“Kokokahi -We are all one blood”

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Jan 10, 2010
 
Regarding the display of Hawaiian Kingdom political symbols after 1893 and especially after 1898 -- was it patriotism, or was it sedition?

The closest analogy I can think of is the public display of the Nazi swastika in Germany after 1945. It's illegal to do that. In fact, it's illegal for anyone to speak or write anything favorable to the Nazi regime or the concept of Aryan racial supremacy. Such displays would not be regarded as "patriotic", they would be treated as socially boorish and legally criminal.

The Provisional Government of 1893, Republic of Hawaii of 1894-1898, and U.S. government after that, were extraordinarily gentle in their treatment of the royalists. Freedom of the press was suspended for only a few weeks following the revolution, and then the Hawaiian-language newspapers cranked it up again and started spewing their royalist propaganda without being in any way restricted by the new government. Even during her period as a prisoner in the Palace in 1895 for conspiracy in the Wilcox counterrevolution, Liliuokalani was given the freedom to sew her political protest quilt which included the monarchial flag and political slogans.

Tolerance of dissent does not change that dissent from sedition into patriotism.
bucks4dalolo

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#2
Jan 10, 2010
 
no mo legacy. da keiki do know da history, only know da blood line. no make sense except da commie state only go wit blood line. da history stay all bust up. da culcha stay all bust up. i try fo teach but i only one man. i give up already. i going.
elijahhawaii

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Jan 10, 2010
 
again irrelevant person with irrelevant thoughts. IT reminds me of that Sesame Street song: " One of these does not belong here...."
NeoWhite

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Jan 10, 2010
 
I'm responding to the Ken Conklin comments. I've lived in Portland, OR for quite a few years. Portland is one of the whitest cities in the US, where white privilege is a way of life, and racist comments are kept under wrap in deference to political correctness. But this guy -- wow -- openly racist, indirectly advocating white supremacy, and clearly a champion of white privilege.

His writings are as misleading and dangerous as those of his contemporaries at the White Aryan Resistance and the Ku Klux Klan. Come on, now. Hawaii ought to be leading the nation in tolerance and diversity and respect for non-whites.

“Kokokahi -We are all one blood”

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Jan 10, 2010
 
NeoWhite wrote:
I'm responding to the Ken Conklin comments. I've lived in Portland, OR for quite a few years. Portland is one of the whitest cities in the US, where white privilege is a way of life, and racist comments are kept under wrap in deference to political correctness. But this guy -- wow -- openly racist, indirectly advocating white supremacy, and clearly a champion of white privilege.
His writings are as misleading and dangerous as those of his contemporaries at the White Aryan Resistance and the Ku Klux Klan. Come on, now. Hawaii ought to be leading the nation in tolerance and diversity and respect for non-whites.
Read again what I wrote. There's nothing about race in it. Zero. It's about patriotism vs. sedition. If the commenter knew Hawaiian history he would know there were whites and natives on both sides of the revolution of 1893. He would know that the Speaker of the House of the Republic of Hawaii was a full-blooded native Hawaiian.

Remember the huge controversy over whether the "Stars and Bars" Confederate battle flag should continue to be flown over the state capitol building in South Carolina? Those who wanted to keep that flag flying -- the flag of a defeated and dead Confederacy -- were called white racists. So now, by the same (il)logic, those who favor continuing to display the symbols of a dead and defeated Kingdom of Hawaii should be called ethnic Hawaiian racists. You can't have it both ways.

But once again, re-read what I wrote, read it carefully, and there's nothing you can find that advocates white supremacy or is hostile toward ethnic Hawaiians. I wrote about one multiracial government which was pushed aside by another multiracial government, and whether the continued celebration of the symbols of a dead former regime should be called "patriotism" or whether it should be called "sedition."

I'm sick and tired of seeing only the Hawaiian flag flying on top of 'Iolani Palace, just as I know most of the people in South Carolina were sick and tired of seeing the Stars and Bars flying over their state capitol. I'm sick of seeing a corrupt and evil ex-queen celebrated as though she were some sort of a goddess, with the celebrants using her as a figurehead for their secessionist movement.
elijahhawaii

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Jan 10, 2010
 

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Hawaiians were intelligent people then and their descendents are intelligent too- simple common sense. Why would the Hawaiians of that era gleefully subjugate themselves to a nation which openly and arrogantly treated people of color as farm animals only 30 years prior and who at that time treated said persons of color only slightly better- like doormats??? This reality was not lost during those boat trips from California, nor was it lost in their common sense.

As people of color, it is certainly obvious why Hawaiians then protested their transfer to a country with such horrible socially accepted racism. Suppress dissent as sedition...? IT is sounding more like Hitler, not the Hawaiians. So much for freedom of expression. Again, what an irrelevant racist IT is.

Look old man, no one really cares for your opinion anyways. Not only are you irrelevant as a haole, you just gonna kick the bucket soon anyway. so why bother wasting that last breath?
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Jan 10, 2010
 
Please Mr. Conklin not today. I come from a long line of quilters - please just enjoy the beautiful quilts and appreciate the incredible amount of time and talent it takes to make just one quilt.

Aloha
elijahhawaii

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Jan 10, 2010
 
Exactly Nordy's Girl. IT takes an article about quilts and turns it into likening Hawaiians as a people to Nazis and Hitler.

As I pointed out under Kauakukalahale, IT is just a belligerent instigator with his irrelevant provocations the thinks he is successfully purporting to be genuine dialog. IT is an irrelevant racist.
boondoggs

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Jan 10, 2010
 
Ken Conklin wrote:
Regarding the display of Hawaiian Kingdom political symbols after 1893 and especially after 1898 -- was it patriotism, or was it sedition?....
Tolerance of dissent does not change that dissent from sedition into patriotism.
the overthrow of the monarchy was an act of sedition.
boondoggs

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Jan 10, 2010
 
dole, the US & their cohorts were seditionists
Settler

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Jan 10, 2010
 
SEE the GOOGLE Book: Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq By Stephen Kinzer

http://books.google.com/books...
Kimo

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Jan 10, 2010
 
And the fact that your husband or relative is a "Prof. and radical at UH who advocates for independence had nothing to do with this story...

It was a revolution, native hawaiian royalty asked for annexation for over 60 years and the majority wanted statehood.

The monarchy supporters who protested annexation and those who hate America and want independece now were not a majority then nor now.
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Jan 11, 2010
 
Hawaii Statehood: Tiny 1959 opposition was anti-Japanese, not anti-American

http://bit.ly/6SFjOG
Smooth Al

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Jan 11, 2010
 
Cool!!!!!!!!
Confusion

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Jan 11, 2010
 
Nordys Girl wrote:
Please Mr. Conklin not today. I come from a long line of quilters - please just enjoy the beautiful quilts and appreciate the incredible amount of time and talent it takes to make just one quilt.
Aloha
Only Conklins can take a story of quilting and then spin his form of racism with high maka maka statements. He reads history one way and then justifies it with twist and turns. His posted picture explains it all for me.
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Jan 11, 2010
 
boondoggs wrote:
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the overthrow of the monarchy was an act of sedition.
Revolutions usually are.

We won. You lost. DEAL with it.
He kumu olelo Hawaii

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Jan 12, 2010
 
and it IS being dealt with: through demands of sovereignty, indigenous rights, and more cultural awareness. Where have you been?
Kimo

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Jan 12, 2010
 
He kumu olelo Hawaii wrote:
and it IS being dealt with: through demands of sovereignty, indigenous rights, and more cultural awareness. Where have you been?
And what part of NO to the left wing myth of the overthrow don't you understand? native Hawaiians are NOT indigenous to these islands and you should know that.

Right here in Hawaii USA and we ain't goin anywhere.
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Jan 12, 2010
 

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Kimo is spot-on. People out here are taking a second look at the Sovereignty shibai. It is based on lies. For too many eyars out here nobody challenged the lies as they wanted to be poltie. We now pay the price of an innaccurate hisotrocal account passing as the truth. Nobody thought it made any difference until Clinton used it in a bizarre and inaccurate "apology."
He kumu olelo Hawaii

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Jan 12, 2010
 
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ind...

"Hawaiian" would not be "Hawaiian" if the people, language, and culture were all identical to another's.
The lineage can be traced elsewhere, but the changes over time make "Hawaiian" indigenous, just as plants and animals that are indigenous to one area can still be traced to elsewhere. What part of elementary school level common sense do YOU not understand?

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