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Teachers willing to return for restored furlough days - Hawaii ...

There are 68 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Nov 25, 2009, titled Teachers willing to return for restored furlough days - Hawaii .... In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

A union leader says public school teachers are willing to return to classrooms on as many Furlough Fridays as can be funded.

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Dumb and Dumber

Honolulu, HI

#22 Nov 25, 2009
local girl wrote:
Okay, now they are willing to go back to the table to work on the furlough day issues-now the union is speaking with a forked tongue! Saying "we will go back but we will not give up our waiver day". Excuse my then where is the money coming from so the union wants the teachers to look like angels taking making these sacrifices to help and now they are turning around saying give me everything back plus leave my waiver days alone?! Give me a break sounds like someone is now being greedy!! I have a feeling now it's the union and not the teachers. Teachers get with it and fire the union leaders and administration! What poor leadership-they are not working in the best interests of the teachers and children. If it's going down this road, leave the furlough days! Yes, I do have kids in public school so yes I am affected by this too but when there is no money there is no money!!!!
Get real!
Local girl, stick to your issues in California. Your state has their own problems. Teachers ain't getting greeding. Their just getting wise! Money can come from the top of the state hierarchy. Lingle set the example, forsake 20% of your salary. Georgina Kawamura, give back 50% of your salary for the budget fiasco you created! Hanabusa, relinquish 20% of your salary if you want to win votes in the next election. Going on PBS and grandstanding your views ain't going to win you votes. Oshiro, show me the money! You said the state has other resources. Put your money by your mouth.
mave

Honolulu, HI

#24 Nov 25, 2009
HSTA's message to care for the keiki is such a smokescreen. They just want more money when everyone else is getting hammered. I think that the parents (and everyone else) are finally realizing that the teachers don't give a damn about the kids, just their wallets.
TheShaft

Kihei, HI

#25 Nov 25, 2009
Blackmail pure and simple.
Kat

Waialua, HI

#26 Nov 25, 2009
Teachers should be embarrassed about what they are allowing their union reps to say and do. It would have been a much better move for them to offer to give up some or all of their waiver days when this fiasco first started. At the very least, it would have looked like they care about the kids.
Mark

Waialua, HI

#27 Nov 25, 2009
I'm waiting for all the teachers to again start posting on these forums the same old drivel, "We are not going to work for free, blah, blah, blah." How about you just continue working your regular hours but accept a pay cut like most everyone else?
Jesus

Waialua, HI

#28 Nov 25, 2009
There are very few teachers left on this island who really are concerned about children, except maybe their own.
Steve

Honolulu, HI

#29 Nov 25, 2009
realmerv wrote:
Reading this morning's article in the Honolulu Advertiser, it looks like the agreement to renegotiate is going nowhere.
House Speaker Calvin Say should stick to his stand and not call the Special Session without the DOE and HSTA having a written agreement in hand. The HSTA seems to be wanting to back out on the deal and go for no sacrifice on the part of the teachers. This wouldn't be fair to the HGEA workers who are already being furloughed.
Right on the money with that comment. This needs to be addressed during the regular session, when all the other needs are in play. Eh, by the time any agreement is reached between the Gov and the union, it'll be next year anyway.

And people don't give enough credit to Calvin Say. So often he's the one voice of reason in a sea of political opportunists.
alice

Waialua, HI

#30 Nov 25, 2009
The teachers are acting so irrational these days. It's almost as if they are on drugs. Now would be a good time to drug test them. Didn't they agree to that?
Kirby

Honolulu, HI

#31 Nov 25, 2009
Lingo and Duck Aiona wrote:
Teachers are just baby sitters, they should get 50% pay cuts. Even that's too much pay. We should have unpaid volunteers teaching, that way we don't need the DOE.
It is unfortunate that you had such a poor experience in school. Maybe if you had applied yourself a little more you would not have grown up to be so bitter. Since you can do a way better job than any teacher that holds a Baccalaureate or Master's Degree, you should be that unpaid volunteer that makes a difference. Just what I thought, all mouth.
Fosters

Honolulu, HI

#32 Nov 25, 2009
Lingo and Duck Aiona wrote:
Teachers are just baby sitters, they should get 50% pay cuts. Even that's too much pay. We should have unpaid volunteers teaching, that way we don't need the DOE.
Was it like that for you when you were in school? Sounds like you never did anything back then and most likely a burden on society now.
WorstJudgesin Nation

Honolulu, HI

#33 Nov 25, 2009
So are they willing to take non-instructional days as furlough days or is it a "you either fund it or we won't come back" issue?
Mexifornia

San Diego, CA

#34 Nov 25, 2009
If it doesn't work out for the students of Hawaii; they can always come here and help the Mexicans cut grass and landscape the interstate highways. Thousands of miles of roadway to be trimmed.
WorstJudgesin Nation

Honolulu, HI

#35 Nov 25, 2009
Kirby wrote:
<quoted text>It is unfortunate that you had such a poor experience in school. Maybe if you had applied yourself a little more you would not have grown up to be so bitter. Since you can do a way better job than any teacher that holds a Baccalaureate or Master's Degree, you should be that unpaid volunteer that makes a difference. Just what I thought, all mouth.
If the majority of DOE taught kids require remedial english and math to gain acceptance into our community colleges, just how good is that Baccalaureate or Master's Degree our teachers are holding. At this point we might as well have the unpaid volunteer. Less cost, same product...
Cut the Fat

Honolulu, HI

#36 Nov 25, 2009
Too many administrators! Too little qualified teachers!
hiloboy

Kula, HI

#37 Nov 25, 2009
Lingo and Duck Aiona wrote:
Teachers are just baby sitters, they should get 50% pay cuts. Even that's too much pay. We should have unpaid volunteers teaching, that way we don't need the DOE.
Are you going to put your money where your mouth is? Go to any high school teacher and say you will volunteer to take their classes.
Kimo

Waialua, HI

#38 Nov 25, 2009
Kirby wrote:
<quoted text>It is unfortunate that you had such a poor experience in school. Maybe if you had applied yourself a little more you would not have grown up to be so bitter. Since you can do a way better job than any teacher that holds a Baccalaureate or Master's Degree, you should be that unpaid volunteer that makes a difference. Just what I thought, all mouth.
The advanced degrees that some teachers hold does not neccessarily make them better at their job. They get those degrees only because it bumps up their pay. Nowdays more local teachers have advanced degres than ever before but you would never know it by their student's declining test scores.
Kirby

Honolulu, HI

#39 Nov 25, 2009
WorstJudgesin Nation wrote:
<quoted text>
If the majority of DOE taught kids require remedial english and math to gain acceptance into our community colleges, just how good is that Baccalaureate or Master's Degree our teachers are holding. At this point we might as well have the unpaid volunteer. Less cost, same product...
Point proven, obviously your high school teacher did not teach you how to spell English correctly.

Since: Sep 08

Honolulu

#40 Nov 25, 2009
We stil are skirting around the issue of DOE getting audtited. DOE needs to cut the budget an equivelant amount and they have not done so yet.
Kirby

Honolulu, HI

#41 Nov 25, 2009
Kimo wrote:
<quoted text>
The advanced degrees that some teachers hold does not neccessarily make them better at their job. They get those degrees only because it bumps up their pay. Nowdays more local teachers have advanced degres than ever before but you would never know it by their student's declining test scores.
Nowadays, many parents have nothing to do with their children's education. Some parents just use the schools as a babysitting service. Remember, learning takes place everywhere not just within the four walls of a school. It is easy to place blame elsewhere when students' fail. Parents need to assess their priorities and place their own children first instead of depending on others to raise and feed them.
Islandboi

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#42 Nov 25, 2009
Ever notice how when unions get involved with anything, corruption, mismanagement, fraud, waste and abuse are rampant. Unions helped bring down the auto companies and are doing the same to our school system, putting their greed ahead of taking care of our Keiki. How many times have union bosses done anything for our Keiki? Oh, silly me, our Keiki are not union members. Just another day in the backwards, union controlled land of the Nei.

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