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Teachers willing to return for restored furlough days - Hawaii ...

There are 68 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Nov 25, 2009, titled Teachers willing to return for restored furlough days - Hawaii .... In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

A union leader says public school teachers are willing to return to classrooms on as many Furlough Fridays as can be funded.

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Honolulu, HI

#1 Nov 25, 2009
A welcome sign of progress to end this Furlough Friday Failure that earned condemnation from across this nation, and from no less than Hawaii's own President Obama himself, in addition to international ridicule and scorn from throughout the world.

In looking for funds to raid, the Rainy Day Fund should not be the only source.

Governor Lingle also owes a duty to the People of Hawaii that includes advising and consulting with her AG Bennett about the Hawaii Supreme Court decision in the Superferry case, where the High Court stated the Legislature cannot pass "Special Acts" that are not applied uniformally througout Hawaii.

Such is the case of the .5% GE rail tax that gouges only Oahu tax-payers.

Reportedly, the scheme entails allowing all counties to raise a .5% GE tax for transit, HOWEVER, it is disparate, AS APPLIED, when only Oahu residents are subjected to this polite form of extortion, under threat of prosecution of State of Hawaii law for not complying.

The State collected it. The State can prosecute for failure to pay it, and it is the State of Hawaii that holds that money.

Having the Power to Collect that .5% GE tax, the State also holds the Power to Spend it on a priority more pressing than what has clearly developed into a make work project for the politically connected.

There is no other top priority than insuring the next generation of Hawaii's leaders have the tools and resources that tax payers place high and above a train that goes nowhere to enrich a whole bunch of no-good, no-bodies, hanging around Mufi.

Rail Fund: Raid it.
realmerv

Honolulu, HI

#2 Nov 25, 2009
Reading this morning's article in the Honolulu Advertiser, it looks like the agreement to renegotiate is going nowhere.

House Speaker Calvin Say should stick to his stand and not call the Special Session without the DOE and HSTA having a written agreement in hand. The HSTA seems to be wanting to back out on the deal and go for no sacrifice on the part of the teachers. This wouldn't be fair to the HGEA workers who are already being furloughed.
Truth Hurts

Honolulu, HI

#3 Nov 25, 2009
Pay the teachers now; or pay the lawyers later. The math is quite simple. :)
Mililani_Bob

Normal, IL

#4 Nov 25, 2009
I don't know what a special session would cost taxpayers in total, but to have one this close to the regular session just doesn't make sense. Release the money and get the kids back to the classroom. We have some bright kids in Hawaii, but we also have many who are barely literate, including the many who possess low math skills. These are the kids who need help the most, and to short-change them by slashing instructional days is appalling.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

Honolulu, HI

#5 Nov 25, 2009
renegotiate? special session? does the legislature, union members, gov know what they are doing? I think that it's good that they are looking out in the best interest of the children or are they really? Seems to be more reactive since they really didn't know that they would get national attention when cutting out those days to begin with. but to go back and renegotiate at this point doesn't set a good example for the rest of HGEA, UPW and HSTA. No special session should be needed as the new session is only 2 months away. the tax payers are getting short changed if the legislature goes back for a special session. we need to get the legislature to deal with real problems like this during the regular session instead of all the nonsense that they address.
noend

Ewa Beach, HI

#6 Nov 25, 2009
legislatures..........USELESS
Lingo and Duck Aiona

Honolulu, HI

#7 Nov 25, 2009
Teachers are just baby sitters, they should get 50% pay cuts. Even that's too much pay. We should have unpaid volunteers teaching, that way we don't need the DOE.
Mililani Commuter

United States

#8 Nov 25, 2009
Just curious but did Wil Okabe and the union poll the teachers? Just want confirmation that the teachers are for this proposal. Altho union members (all unions) pay dues, in essence paying the salaries of the union leaders, they have very little say. Membership should be telling union leaders what they want and not the other way around.
geeee

Hilo, HI

#9 Nov 25, 2009
what about HGEA, UPW and UHPA. Dump the furlough and layoff and start over
Mitch

Pearl City, HI

#10 Nov 25, 2009
The union is willing to go back to work as long as they get paid. This is a pretty obvious statement, no? I mean, that's true for any worker.

You pay me, I go back to work.

The more important question is where is the money?
union ways

Honolulu, HI

#11 Nov 25, 2009
they don't poll the unions - unions make up the rules without consulting their members - they just tell members how they should vote. can you imagine what kind of funding the schools would have if their dues went to support the schools rather than the union?
wheres the money

Kailua, HI

#12 Nov 25, 2009
"We are willing to go back to the classroom, as long as the governor provides money and resources"

In other words, "WE DON'T WANT A PAYCUT!" Looks like HSTA is taking lessons from UHPA. So HSTA, where will the money come from? What programs do you want cut? Thats what you are telling your union brothers and sisters, our jobs are more important than yours!

Here's a though, how about making parents pay for public school. That way, the parents have a monetary interest in their childs education, and they will hold the teachers accountable for their childs education!
Kimo

Waialua, HI

#13 Nov 25, 2009
So the teachers are not willing to give up any of their waiver days? What a bunch of greedy losers.
END FURLOUGH FRIDAYS

Kealakekua, HI

#14 Nov 25, 2009
Furlough Friday was CREATED TO MAXIMIZE HAVOC in the family. Parents are bickering on who will take off from work to provide child care. Other kids are running wild in the malls and streets.
Will teen pregnancy increase 9 months from now?
The end goal is to frustrate taxpayers so they will agree to INCREASE TAXES. Laws can be changed to spread out teacher’s salaries to cover the furlough days, therefore no collecting unemployment benefits. If they can change the law on the Rainy Day Fund, they can change other laws.
Cancel Furlough Fridays and MOVE THE FURLOUGHS TO THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
The inconvenience of Furlough Friday is what most parents were concerned about.
With furloughs at the end of the school year, school will end in early May.
Summer school secession can start earlier to cover lost learning days.
Teachers who want to make up some wages can teach summer school classes.
Summer Fun Programs can start in early May for childcare.
Parents who feel there child is up to speed, instead can take a trip the mainland. You’ll pay off-season rates on airfare and hotel reservations.
The INCONVENIENCE of Furlough Friday is what most parents were concerned about.
If the FURLOUGHS WERE DONE AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, the outrage from parents would not have been so great.
rayh

Honolulu, HI

#15 Nov 25, 2009
"TEACHERS WILLING TO RETURN..."
WELL, THAT'S REALLY NICE OF THEM.
Dummy

Honolulu, HI

#16 Nov 25, 2009
Mililani Commuter wrote:
Just curious but did Wil Okabe and the union poll the teachers? Just want confirmation that the teachers are for this proposal. Altho union members (all unions) pay dues, in essence paying the salaries of the union leaders, they have very little say. Membership should be telling union leaders what they want and not the other way around.
Are you an idiot? Teachers aren't going to work for free moron!
Dummy2

Honolulu, HI

#18 Nov 25, 2009
wheres the money wrote:
"We are willing to go back to the classroom, as long as the governor provides money and resources"
In other words, "WE DON'T WANT A PAYCUT!" Looks like HSTA is taking lessons from UHPA. So HSTA, where will the money come from? What programs do you want cut? Thats what you are telling your union brothers and sisters, our jobs are more important than yours!
Here's a though, how about making parents pay for public school. That way, the parents have a monetary interest in their childs education, and they will hold the teachers accountable for their childs education!
A more classic case of a dummy! Why would public school parents pay for their kids education? Might as well just send them to a private school. Not a bright idea!

Lingle is trying to drum up public support by taking this negotiation process to the media, however, the teachers ain't stupid. They ain't working for free! What is she going to do....fire them! Fat chance! The state is already having a difficult time meeting the benchmark of federal guidelines as mandated by no child left behind motto. Wait until the next testing results come out next year! Hawaii will rank last on the totem pole. Don't blame the teachers. Blame it on Lingle, the politicians, and you parents!
50Mill--NotEnoug hRansom

United States

#19 Nov 25, 2009
Furlough negotiations:$50M ransom offered, but unions balk at releasing hostages
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/main/ArticlesM...
Audit: DoE instructor salaries diverted to "operating expenditure, supplies, and capital items"
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/main/ArticlesM...
Islandboi

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#20 Nov 25, 2009
And the union shibai just keeps on coming. "We are willing to go back to the classroom, as long as the governor provides money and resources," Hawaii State Teachers Association President Wil Okabe" Wil, Wil, Wil, when will you learn to engage your brain before opening your mouth? You are not speaking for all the teachers who will gladly give up their non school training/etc days for regular school days. Problem is you just can't get it right, always thinking about the welfare of you and other union bosses versus the teachers and keiki you are supposed to care for. Wil, you can't lead and can't follow, time to retire. We need fresh, honest blood in union leadership, that clearly is not you. Ahhh, just another day in the Nei.
LeonRouse

United States

#21 Nov 25, 2009
If this doesn't get solved soon how will the Legislature find time for the really important things like ...

ISLAM DAY

and

GAY CIVIL UNIONS????

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