Council explores downtown drive fee

Full story: Honolulu Star-Bulletin

Charging motorists to drive into downtown Honolulu would be studied under a resolution offered in the City Council.
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Since: Mar 08

Aiea, HI

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I have a better idea.

Just close Honolulu and look how much money they will save.

I'm sure the Council committee city and county employees will be exempt and will have extra parking and more time on their hands to think up more weird things like this.

Just one more reason for me not to go into Honolulu.

Since: Jun 08

Honolulu, HI

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Driver's fee = MORE TAXATION

Aren't drivers taxed enough!?
konadaze

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Congestion pricing for the downtown area. Seems as though the inept city council is looking to nickle and dime the residents of Oahu. People of Oahu, speak out and vote those idiots out of office. It's bad enough residents pay more than their fair share of property taxes.

Since: Apr 08

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The only thing that needs a funded study is Councilman Charles Djou's brain.
kanehi

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So passing thru Nimitz Hwy, King Street, Beretania, South Street and Bethel Street will incur a fee? What happens to people that are being picked up by their family member or friend from work? Will they be charged? Are government and city workers going to be exempt? How about the people that lives in the high rises and people that work there? What happens if you have a court date? And people going to QMC and Straub? These are lame plans to benefit the few self serving politicians. Vote them out of office for wasting monetary resources to do the study! I hate to see what happens over at Chinatown since they are part of downtown. Idiotic idea.
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I'm glad to see that the Council and the Transportation Department are looking at ways to decrease congestion and bottlenecks, but I wish they would look at problem areas on the freeways first.

Get rid of the bottlenecks on the freeways, build sufficient roads in new housing developments, fix known danger spots, coordinate traffic lights, build turn in areas for buses so they don't slow traffic down every time they stop, and increase the number of buses and express buses during peak hours, especially along school routes.

Consider congestion pricing too, but forget a $500,000 study. The facts about congestion pricing are already out there in black and white. It is a solution recommended by the Federal Highways Transportation Administration. Can't Yoshioka ask his colleagues for advice? Isn't it part of his job to research these things?

London's $16 per day is too much in any case. Stockholm's congestion pricing system collects $2-$3 per entry during peak weekday hours, up to a maximum of $9 per day. It was introduced as an experiment, and at first people did grumble. However, after the initial year, they were pleased enough with the results to vote that it be continued.
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Parking garages/lots must be installed on the periphery before implementing such a plan. This wud allow people to park and ride the buses/taxis into the penalty area. Another way to raise more money for the system is to auction limited tickets/passes into the penalty area. The highest winning bids get the passes. Move the govt workers to Kapolei. Maybe businesses can get into the action. Too bad we cannot all vote Djou out of office.
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said Councilman Nestor Garcia, chairman of the Transportation and Public Works Committee. "Everyone seems to think we're only looking at rail, but I'm open-minded."

Right. The Council is inept and useless. They avoided actually making a decision about the form that the 6 Billion dollar transportation system will take. They gave away that decision to the Mayor and now he's ramming it down our throats whether we like it or not. He has declared, "It's Steel on Steel Rail or Nothing". The Council is impotent.
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What are you thinking?!!!! Get Djou out of the council for even proposing such an asinine idea! We're already burdened with high gas prices, high food prices, higher taxes to pay for rail. Stop doing what the airlines are doing and charging us for everything. What's next, a walking fee? Bye, bye Djou!!!!
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At last we use brains in head rather than dreaming for solution from the sky. Add to proposal removal of every other street parking space.

Since: Apr 08

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Unco Chalee, dis idea has jus' co$t you votes. Wacchuu teenkin', Unco!?!?!
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This is idiotic as is all of Djou's ideas. Certainly he will make sure the council members will be exempted when they travel to their offices and meetings downtown.

Maybe Djou should start carpooling too since he is so "in" with European ways. He needs his brain checked.
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..and i thought this djou fella's one of the brightest one there; hmm, wrong again!..it's bad enough that we're limited to townbound trips (movies, market, ect.) now due to soaring fuel costs, and to make us shell out a fee just to drive there would just about do it for me..ooops, there goes another plane load of highly educated locals on their way to mainland living.
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Pay to use the beach, pay to use the parks, pay to use the streets and now pay again to use the same streets. They expect island residents to keep paying more from the same paycheck. They increase fees while the take home pay of our residents remains the same. Hawai'i you have changed and are lost. It is sad to read the paper from across the oceans when all one reads is stupidity coming from "so-called" leaders.

VOTE THESE OKOLES OUT...TAKE YOUR ISLAND BACK.
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You got to be kidding me, sounds like something the crooks in gov't in the Philippines would do.
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Charles Djou, raising taxes again! Talking out of both sides of his mouth...again.
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Jun 27, 2008
 
Most of us already pay a high fee for driving into downtown. It is called the parking rate.
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Jun 27, 2008
 
Whatever it takes to force people out of their cars, green freaks will try it.
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Let me get this right. Government centers itself downtown. In order for me to do virtually anything on this island I need to get a permit from the government or pay a fee to government. Now government wants me to pay an extra fee to drive to where government is so I can pay them the first fee. Brilliant, they have invented fee stacking.

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