Blaming Israel for carnage

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Most media outlets aren't providing news of Israel's barbaric air raids on Lebanon with fairness and integrity.

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The purpose of life is TO remain among the living and not to be encapsulated by the evil of desire, which you have just done.
Abusing the words given to us as a warning against seeking the rancid honour of usurping the power of the Creator.
And by so doing you render yourself deceitful in the eyes of the members of our forum.
Nobody everybody knows you are not a Worshipper of Our Lord , and you know that host upon host of disciples of truth and freedom have sacrificed their lives in the certainty of being treated to emancipation, and so there by achieving high status in Heaven, and what achieved their ascent into the wonder of eternal life.?.
I'll tell you what it was you idiot it was the words you chose to abuse.
Isaiah 17 is entitled,“A Prophecy Against Damascus,” a chapter that details impending disaster, and, in Jeremiah 49, Damascus’ fate
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The Great Satan??????????

The U.S. House of Representatives passed a defense authorization bill that would make it U.S. policy to take “all necessary steps” to ensure Israel is able to “remove existential threats,” among them nuclear facilities in Iran.

“It is the policy of the United States to take all necessary steps to ensure that Israel possesses and maintains an independent capability to remove existential threats to its security and defend its vital national interests,” said the amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act passed Friday.

The amendment, initiated by Rep. Peter Roskam (R-Ill.) and first reported by Americans for Peace Now weekly legislative roundup, would require the president to report every 90 days on how the policy is being implemented.

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The Great Satan??????????
The U.S. House of Representatives passed a defense authorization bill that would make it U.S. policy to take “all necessary steps” to ensure Israel is able to “remove existential threats,” among them nuclear facilities in Iran.
“It is the policy of the United States to take all necessary steps to ensure that Israel possesses and maintains an independent capability to remove existential threats to its security and defend its vital national interests,” said the amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act passed Friday.
The amendment, initiated by Rep. Peter Roskam (R-Ill.) and first reported by Americans for Peace Now weekly legislative roundup, would require the president to report every 90 days on how the policy is being implemented.
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You meant The U.S. House of Israeli Representatives

i corrected the typo
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You meant The U.S. House of Israeli Representatives
i corrected the typo
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No, Woody meant the US House of Representatives.

now i corrected your mistake!

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense...
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Most of Congress signed a pledge of allegiance to israel and it shows how badly the late Great John F Kennedy was right. Our system needs to be overhauled, and zionism/Marxist corrupting ways must be eliminated.
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Well you would say that wouldn't you? However this court sees a different Israel to the one you seem to portray. Indeed the world sees a different Israel to your seeming utopia. I stand my reading and declare one thing is correct: though it's not my usual manner to say this but you are indeed what you call yourself ... a nutjob ... case closed. Next please!
So you are unable to disprove anything i wrote so choose to attack me personally only.

You are the insane one thinking for some reason that you are a court. I never said Israel was Utopia but much of the crap written about Israel in mainstream media never happened. If you were interested in reality you would already know this.
You know that saying innocent until proven guilty. I suppose you would like a Tyranny where courts can make things up and do as they please as you seem to.
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[QUOTE who="Woody" The U.S. House of Representatives passed a defense authorization bill that would make it U.S. policy to take “all necessary steps” to ensure Israel is able to “remove existential threats,” among them nuclear facilities in Iran.
“It is the policy of the United States to take all necessary steps to ensure that Israel possesses and maintains an independent capability to remove existential threats to its security and defend its vital national interests,” said the amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act passed Friday.
The amendment, initiated by Rep. Peter Roskam (R-Ill.) and first reported by Americans for Peace Now weekly legislative roundup, would require the president to report every 90 days on how the policy is being implemented.[/QUOTE]

George Washington advised, "Observe good faith and justice towards all Nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all… nothing is more essential, than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular Nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The Nation, which indulges towards another an habitual hatred, or an habitual fondness, is in some degree a slave."

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Breaking News on the thread.
Obama is ready to reduce tactical nukes in Europe.
Something all progressive elements have demanded since the Break up of the Soviet Union.
Will this transcend into US breaking ties with al-Qa'eda ?
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Please don't shout so loud in court. Have some respect!
You call ME insane Mr nutjob? Come come have a little look at yourself! Now settle down and take a deep breath. Tell me if you would like your house stolen by the state? Demolished by the state? Given over to others who have no right to it by the state? Tell me after that if you would like to see your child butchered by soldiers of the state?
Then when you've answered the above tell me Israel is innocent of war crimes and crimes against humanity? Your answers will determine your sanity not mine... nutjob there..
If i have legal deed for my house than it is mine, a large % of Arab building in what was W.Palestine is illegal. They don't own the land but steal it in the first place.
The Majority of the teenagers killed in the conflict are active fighters. Maybe you should tell the Palestinians to stop creating Child armies like in Africa.
I never claimed that Israel does nothing wrong but its interesting how you make no mention of the thousands of homes stolen by Arabs from Jews in Jerusalem and the West Bank. Nor the close to 1 million Jews who were persecuted from Arab countries with ALL their possessions stolen.
The difference here is that most Arabs on the land did not own but rented their land, so it was not theirs in the first place.

Can you give me a case where Israel demolishes homes and gives the land to Jews??? Its easy to claim now back it up.
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i just love this article below and i'm quoting:

"Syrian President Bashar al-Assad may prevail in the more than two-year-old insurgency, Israel's intelligence minister said on Monday, Reuters reported.


Yuval Steinitz, minister for international affairs, strategy and intelligence, was asked at a briefing with foreign journalists whether recent successes by Assad's forces against the foreign-backed rebels might herald victory for the Syrian leader.



"I always thought that it might be the case that at the end of the day Assad, with a very strong… Hezbollah backing, might gain the upper hand," Steinitz said.



"And I think that this is possible and I thought that this is possible already a long time ago."



Steinitz, who is not a member of Israel's security cabinet but does have access to intelligence updates as well as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's ear, said Assad's government "might not just survive but even regain territories" from the rebels".

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad may prevail in the more than two-year-old insurgency, Israel's intelligence minister said on Monday, Reuters reported.


Yuval Steinitz, minister for international affairs, strategy and intelligence, was asked at a briefing with foreign journalists whether recent successes by Assad's forces against the foreign-backed rebels might herald victory for the Syrian leader.

Syria Assad is Syria and its people love Assad and Assad is their Legendary Hero!

And Israel will fall because of Assad and Hezbollah/ and Iran,...and this group is known as the "Trio Alliance of Rigorousness" and Russia is their Guardian.

And Persians are not Arabs/!
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What Americans on Obama's kill list/???? And who does the assassinations/???

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"They describe a paradoxical leader who shunned the legislative deal-making required to close the detention facility at Guantánamo Bay in Cuba, but approves lethal action without hand-wringing.

While he was adamant about narrowing the fight and improving relations with the Muslim world, he has followed the metastasizing enemy into new and dangerous lands. When he applies his lawyering skills to counterterrorism, it is usually to enable, not constrain, his ferocious campaign against Al Qaeda — even when it comes to killing an American cleric in Yemen, a decision that Mr. Obama told colleagues was “an easy one.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obama...
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A large % of 'Jewish' land is illegal under international law. Stop throwing meaningless phrases around .... "in the first place" and 'illgal' because in an occupied land these words mean nothing when used by the occupiers.
So you have no answer for me and start to spout the illegal BS with no documentation to back it up.

According to International Law and the definition of Occupied territory is when one country conquers another COUNTRIES territory.

According to international law the land was under Ottoman rule. They signed the Treaty of Servais in the 1920's which gave up their right to the land. The league of nations created Mandates and split up much of the land conquered. The Mandate for Palestine give Western Palestine LEGALLY to the Jews for their own country.
Britain the trustees of the Mandate had a job to do. Legally they should have followed the Mandate and encouraged Jewish Immigration to Public land (which was the majority of the land at the time) to create a Jewish country on the land when the institutions are ready. Instead they chose to allow massive non-Jewish immigration while restricting Jewish immigration. If you are interested read the League of Nations documentation even at the end of the 1920's they complained to Britain that they were going against the Mandate.
Anyways. Then the UN came about and article 80 confirms the Mandate as enshrined in international law. When Jordan illegally occupied the land until 1967 there was no request to create a state there. On the contrary the PLO National Covenant 1964 clearly gives up their claims to the land for a country and they called for a regional Arab caliphate. Once 1967 had passed and Israel gained the land back the Palestinians changed their Charter in order to target Israel.
According to international law for a land to be occupied territory it has to be taken from a COUNTRY which legally owns it. This never happened so it is disputed territory.
The Red Cross changed the definition in the 70's i believe and that is the reason for this occupied myth today.

If you can give me an international document backing up your claim that the Palestinians as a nation have the legal right to the land go ahead. Otherwise dont make these BS claims.

If it was illegal for Israel to be there in the first place than negotiations would be irrelevant. Since Israel has a right to the land the Palestinians have to negotiate if they want part of it for themselves.

Look up disputed territories in the world and explain to me why Israel is considered different according to international law.

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<quoted text>Isaiah 17 is entitled,“A Prophecy Against Damascus,” a chapter that details impending disaster, and, in Jeremiah 49, Damascus’ fate

So 160 years after a prophecy was made and concluded the actual prophecy was going to be extended upon as a different location.
To reinforce your machinations today, it can be repeated when ever.
The Assyria took the North, the Babylonians got them and the rest of Israel , what the Lord said about Nebuchadnezzar was a wind down the people are taken away but will come back to be in place for the coming of Christ.
No further prophecy was made concerning the "fate",- I don't even think you know what "fate" is,- of the return in relation to its ending or another beginning after that ending, by any Prophet that the Jew recognized.
So the Chosen People changed when the Jew didn't recognize Christ.
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So 160 years after a prophecy was made and concluded the actual prophecy was going to be extended upon as a different location.
To reinforce your machinations today, it can be repeated when ever.
The Assyria took the North, the Babylonians got them and the rest of Israel , what the Lord said about Nebuchadnezzar was a wind down the people are taken away but will come back to be in place for the coming of Christ.
No further prophecy was made concerning the "fate",- I don't even think you know what "fate" is,- of the return in relation to its ending or another beginning after that ending, by any Prophet that the Jew recognized.
So the Chosen People changed when the Jew didn't recognize Christ.
A prophecy against Damascus:
“See, Damascus will no longer be a city
but will become a heap of ruins.
2The cities of Aroer will be deserted
and left to flocks, which will lie down,
with no one to make them afraid.
3The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim,
and royal power from Damascus;
the remnant of Aram will be
like the glory of the Israelites,”
declares the Lord Almighty
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So 160 years after a prophecy was made and concluded the actual prophecy was going to be extended upon as a different location.
To reinforce your machinations today, it can be repeated when ever.
The Assyria took the North, the Babylonians got them and the rest of Israel , what the Lord said about Nebuchadnezzar was a wind down the people are taken away but will come back to be in place for the coming of Christ.
No further prophecy was made concerning the "fate",- I don't even think you know what "fate" is,- of the return in relation to its ending or another beginning after that ending, by any Prophet that the Jew recognized.
So the Chosen People changed when the Jew didn't recognize Christ.
23Concerning Damascus:
“Hamath and Arpad are dismayed,
for they have heard bad news.
They are disheartened,
troubled like #
49:23Hebrew onor by
the restless sea.
24Damascus has become feeble,
she has turned to flee
and panic has gripped her;
anguish and pain have seized her,
pain like that of a woman in labor.
25Why has the city of renown not been abandoned,
the town in which I delight?
26Surely, her young men will fall in the streets;
all her soldiers will be silenced in that day,”
declares the Lord Almighty.
27“I will set fire to the walls of Damascus;
it will consume the fortresses of Ben-Hadad.”
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Michael — The Economic Collapse June 18, 2013

Every night Americans prove that they are willing to do absolutely horrible things to their fellow human beings. Most of the time, we never even hear about the sick and twisted things that happen on the side streets and dark alleys of America. Once in a while a particularly twisted story will get picked up by the news, but usually most Americans are pretty much able to isolate themselves from the depravity that is happening all around them. Unfortunately, the social decay that is eating away at our society like cancer is spreading. It is getting harder and harder for average Americans to keep the darkness at bay. When it suddenly reaches out and touches your family, it can be absolutely shocking. America is not the kind, loving and gentle place that is portrayed in our movies and on our television shows. The sad truth is that America is becoming colder and meaner with each passing day. Yes, there are definitely some Americans that are kind and compassionate, but they are in the minority. As our economic decline becomes even more severe, the hearts of even more Americans are going to grow cold. And people with cold hearts can do some absolutely terrible things.
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Michael — The Economic Collapse June 18, 2013
Every night Americans prove that they are willing to do absolutely horrible things to their fellow human beings. Most of the time, we never even hear about the sick and twisted things that happen on the side streets and dark alleys of America. Once in a while a particularly twisted story will get picked up by the news, but usually most Americans are pretty much able to isolate themselves from the depravity that is happening all around them. Unfortunately, the social decay that is eating away at our society like cancer is spreading. It is getting harder and harder for average Americans to keep the darkness at bay. When it suddenly reaches out and touches your family, it can be absolutely shocking. America is not the kind, loving and gentle place that is portrayed in our movies and on our television shows. The sad truth is that America is becoming colder and meaner with each passing day. Yes, there are definitely some Americans that are kind and compassionate, but they are in the minority. As our economic decline becomes even more severe, the hearts of even more Americans are going to grow cold. And people with cold hearts can do some absolutely terrible things.
I suggest you visit Syria where Hezbollah is busy killing children in the name of Iran's Ayatollah.
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Michael — The Economic Collapse June 18, 2013
Every night Americans prove that they are willing to do absolutely horrible things to their fellow human beings. Most of the time, we never even hear about the sick and twisted things that happen on the side streets and dark alleys of America. Once in a while a particularly twisted story will get picked up by the news, but usually most Americans are pretty much able to isolate themselves from the depravity that is happening all around them. Unfortunately, the social decay that is eating away at our society like cancer is spreading. It is getting harder and harder for average Americans to keep the darkness at bay. When it suddenly reaches out and touches your family, it can be absolutely shocking. America is not the kind, loving and gentle place that is portrayed in our movies and on our television shows. The sad truth is that America is becoming colder and meaner with each passing day. Yes, there are definitely some Americans that are kind and compassionate, but they are in the minority. As our economic decline becomes even more severe, the hearts of even more Americans are going to grow cold. And people with cold hearts can do some absolutely terrible things.
Were there is evil good will be more. You need to do your part and treat your neighbors as you would like to be treated. Go out of your way to be kind to others, you will be surprized.:)

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<quoted text> 23Concerning Damascus:
“Hamath and Arpad are dismayed,
for they have heard bad news.
They are disheartened,
troubled like #
49:23Hebrew onor by
the restless sea.
24Damascus has become feeble,
she has turned to flee
and panic has gripped her;
anguish and pain have seized her,
pain like that of a woman in labor.
25Why has the city of renown not been abandoned,
the town in which I delight?
26Surely, her young men will fall in the streets;
all her soldiers will be silenced in that day,”
declares the Lord Almighty.
27“I will set fire to the walls of Damascus;
it will consume the fortresses of Ben-Hadad.”

That has all ready happened .when the Babylonian's conquered the Assyrian's in the early 6 th century Before the Messiah Jesus.
Just as ( p) Isaiah also said it would the previous century.
To say it will happen again and again because the pseudo Jew have got no Prophets to sanction their diabolical slaughter of the Levites is making a fool of you and nobody else.
However since you bring it up you if you were religious you would consider
(p) Jeremiah's answer to His Confession.
11: 22 , 23 ,( but I will punish then------ when I am finished no one from their families will be left alive.)
The Creator is referring to Jews.
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'Create a Jewish country?" what manner of racist bullshit is this? You're so full of bullshit it's frightening. Israel is a racist occupying nazi-run land of shit and the quicker she obeys international law and GTFO the better for world peace.
Jews are not a race.
There are many Muslims countries a few Christian and other religions have their own countries also. Why are Jews treated differently every time.
World peace? Yeh right. When Islam calls for a world Islamic Caliphate there is no chance of World Peace.

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