Smithtown parishioners planning protest of church -

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Parishioners at the Byzantine Church of the Resurrection in Smithtown plan to hold a "quiet" protest Sunday over their priest's cancellation of its popular four-day bazaar, saying that they fear church ... Full Story
Totally Disgusted

Hastings On Hudson, NY

#1826 Jan 18, 2009
Manford wrote:
Has this place been closed yet?
I heard from one of the few left who attend the D. L. on Saturdays (which has been moved up to 3:30 now) that they received envelopes only through March, so it sounds like that might be the end. They are served by a "rent-a-priest" from another rite (Ukrainian) now, and attendance on Saturdays ranges from 15 to 30 people. The Eparchy has hired a man to open and close the church, and he told them he has been ordered to close the church 15 minutes after the D. L. ends, so if they want to chat after D. L. they should do it outside. Oh, and one Saturday they were without heat because someone forgot to have the oil tank refilled. The only Liturgy they had for Christmas was at 6:00 PM Christmas Eve. That's all, folks.
Curious

AOL

#1827 Jan 28, 2009
So what happened to Freddie? I heard Harry was in the hospital over Christmas. Does anyone have any details?
Great Leadership

AOL

#1828 Jan 29, 2009
Is that the way they tell you your church is closing? Give you envelopes only until March?? LOLOLOLOL! I think the leaders of this eparchy are directly to blame for its death. They can bounce this back on the people all they want, but in the end it was THEIR lack of vision, THEIR lack of drive and THEIR lack of FAITH that killed this place and will eventually kill them all.
While the ship goes down they are saving themselves- a true testament to their faith, honor and courage.
pioneer valley RUSYN

Melrose, MA

#1829 Feb 11, 2009
I've noted the comments over the past 2+ years regarding Fr. dan's
dismissal - parish shock - Fr. harry's in - elimi- nating parish services
one after another - pushing parishoners away (if you're not Rusyn, you're
not welcomed)- D.L. attendance dwindling - no more bazaar - property sold
off - rent-a-priest - envelopes only thru March '09.
What a shame, what a sin the eparchy has perpetrated against it flock. It is
as if the eparchy is turning its back and closing up shop in Connecticut and
Long Island. My family attended St. Andrews and then Resurrection (after
moving to Suffolk cty) and I have since moved to western Massachusetts. I
feel fortunate to have found a small and inviting Ukrainian Catholic parish
in S. Deerfield, MA, as there a no Byzantine/Rusyn parishes in the area. I
have discussed Smithtown's troubles with my priest and is saddened over it.
What he tells me is that the eparchy in Passaic is basically abandoning the
north east and concentrating efforts and resources in the south. I guess
that basically the older Rusyn's in the north east either retiring south or
dying off. Their children are either moving south as well, or not attending
our church. What makes me grieve over this entire matter is that
Resurrection church WAS a rich and vibrant parish. Granted with some
problems. However, the parish drew worshippers in. Non Rusyns liked what
this Rusyn parish was all about. How rare is that in these days? So,
finally, it looks the Bishop in Passaic finds money of more importance than
the souls of the faithful in Resurrection Church. There is always a way to
do things and a way not to. Even the most gut wrenching news can be made to
be bareable if love and compassion are a part of its presentation. Neither
has been in resurrections case. I dare say that the eparchy of Passaic
appears indifferent, at the least, and cruel to the past and current
parishoners of Resurrection Church. We are Rusyn, po-nasomu! There is none
of that feeling in Passaic at all. Shame on them! How dare they turn their
backs on and treat fellow Rusyns with such utter contempt! The faithful who
have departed this earth must surely be weeping for us now. Where are the
parishoners of Resurrection Chucrh attending mass now? Are they going to
Holy Family Ukrainian Catholic Church in Lindenhurst? Are there other
Ukrainian churches in the area. have they gone over to Roman catholic
parishes?
pioneer valley RUSYN

Melrose, MA

#1830 Feb 11, 2009
In the latest edition of eastern cath life, it mentions that Fr. Harry is officially out of St. Andrews and Resurrection, and that Fr. Hospodar is in. Any info on him whould be appreciated. Is it just the same policy w/ a different face?
Walking Wounded

Rockville, MD

#1831 Feb 13, 2009
Having been a member of Resurrection for over 20 years this whole situation has been heatbreaking. Startng with the cruelty inflicted on Father Dan and the the rest of the innocents, the faithful; this has been one of the most painful experiences of my life. Hospodar is Andrew's best buddy, we call him the Serpent. It was Hospodar who told the parish he had just the priest for them and then sent Harry. I am sure the Lord has a place reserved for him by the Styx.
Enlightened

AOL

#1832 Feb 13, 2009
Harry...LOL
Harry was apparently ill and will move to another parish, in NJ. Is there another place with high real estate values that the eparchy can profit from? I'm guessing this is where he is headed next.
I initially thought the Smithtown RCs got squeezed out because they weren't etnick, but anyone can see that was just the excuse needed to kill off the parishand take the $$. As for moving south, don't forget there have been parishes in FL that have been sold when the price was right too.

If the money looks good the eparchy sells out their people to the highest bidder. It is as simple as that.

I left the church precisely because of Bishop P's treatment of fellow human beings entrusted to his care. I didn't belong to Smithtown, but I saw that it was just a matter of time before the pain and loss would head my way. This church is about as dead as a church can get. It is certainly as dead as its heirarchy. What do they say? Where the bishop is so is the church? I rest my case.

The problem is that I just can't seem to gather the strength to committ to another church after what I've seen in this eparchy. I am now probably considered an 'ex-Catholic' and I know I will never belong to another organized religious group. This is what I've taken away from decades of being an active and faithful Greek Catholic.

When I see these priests today I laugh at their jeweled crowns and embroidered robes, and I laugh at their antics on stage at the altar. I can see it for what it really is now. Nothing. Dead mens bones playing some pompous dress-up mind game with people's faith. God is down here with his suffering people. What these jokers pretend to be is evident in what they do to people. Sick.
xyz

AOL

#1833 Mar 10, 2009
screwed up!
pioneer valley RUSYN

Melrose, MA

#1834 Mar 12, 2009
Well it's march. Does anyone know if Resurrection is still open? will be celebrating DL on Easter? blessing baskets?
Dell

Bayport, NY

#1835 Mar 26, 2009
No Easter Baskets
No Kielbasa
No Beer
Boo Hoo
desert light

Blackwood, NJ

#1836 Apr 22, 2009
ARE AMERICAN BISHOPS GAY?

March 7, 2009

In 2004 a reliable source of information about the Catholic Church made me aware of a document about the American hierarchy that was composed by a small group of insiders including at least one bishop. That document claimed and named 134 bishops that they said were homosexual in orientation or behavior. Several times over the past years I have asked one of the sources to make the list public and to take responsibility for its conclusions. I am told that every one of the authors wants to preserve his anonymity because of his position and employment.

For the moment, suspend judgment or arguments about numbers or sources, accuracy or validation of the list. One does not have to depend on that document to say responsibly that,“Yes, some U. S. bishops are gay and have been sexually active”. What does the fact of the existence of the question mean? The question about the sexuality of bishops is complex, but it is by no means prurient or peripheral to the sexual crisis in the American church—and to the authentic teaching of the Roman Catholic Church. Whatever one’s opinion, the question is dangerous, but it is necessary to address openly.

The sexual crisis confronting the Roman Catholic Church is central to its mission of salvation to modern civilization. The crisis of sexual abuse is merely one aspect of the unaddressed sexual concerns of the church. The agenda vitally impinges on the question of humanity and Christian life. Already in 1986 theologian William Shea listed what he called the tangle of issues that religious leadership has failed to credibly and honestly face up to and deal with. No one has identified the reality of the challenges better or more succinctly: They are: family life, divorce and remarriage, premarital and extramarital sex, birth control, abortion, homosexuality, masturbation, the role of women in the ministry, their ordination to the priesthood, the celibacy of the clergy, the male monopoly of leadership. Some have suggested that sex is, at bottom, the issue that clogs up our Catholic calendar. Fear of women, and perhaps hatred of them, may well be just what we have to work out of the Catholic system.[1] The sexual behavior and orientation of the hierarchy are essential questions to address and relevant to understand the “how’s” and “why’s” of the clergy sexual abuse crisis as well as the sexual agenda that faces the Church.

In our May 15 Dialogue we will address THIS DANGEROUS QUESTION.

[1] Commonweal. November 7, 1986

quiet desert reading

Blackwood, NJ

#1837 Apr 22, 2009
For more interesting insights.........

http://www.richardsipe.com/
LaughOutLoud

AOL

#1838 Apr 25, 2009
Of course they are. One doesn't need to have a PhD to see this one. LOL
I'm beginning to believe this is the culture of the church and has been for centuries. They've had such a stronghold over people in the past that they have gotten away with some very sickening things in the name of God. All is 'out' in the open now and whatever authority they held over the rest of us, mere mortals, here on earth has dissolved, thank God.
I wouldn't trust a one of them, starting at the very top.
quiet desert reading

Blackwood, NJ

#1839 Apr 25, 2009
LaughOutLoud wrote:
Of course they are. One doesn't need to have a PhD to see this one. LOL
I'm beginning to believe this is the culture of the church and has been for centuries. They've had such a stronghold over people in the past that they have gotten away with some very sickening things in the name of God. All is 'out' in the open now and whatever authority they held over the rest of us, mere mortals, here on earth has dissolved, thank God.
I wouldn't trust a one of them, starting at the very top.
There are priests who are trustworthy.However the power elitists have never wanted you to trust them.Do you trust your governement?
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/President-Obama...
Anthony

Brooklyn, NY

#1840 May 10, 2009
I heard that Father Jack Custer will take over as pastor on May 17th.
Anthony

Brooklyn, NY

#1841 Jun 5, 2009
How are things going with the new priest?
Walking Wounded

Rockville, MD

#1842 Jun 5, 2009
Rebuilding has started with a roof on the Rectory. Father Jack has a tough road to hoe there is nothing left. Even the tables in the social hall are gone. We couldn't bake a Paska if we wanted to all the baking pans are gone. Talk about rape and pillage. I hope Harry and Hospodar sleep well after what has been done to this parish.
Father Jack is a refreshing breath of fresh air attendance at Liturgy is way up 85 - 100. Need to get more of our Parish Famiyback working on it.
Dee

Baldwin, NY

#1843 Jan 4, 2010
So far I am impressed with what Father Custer is doing to help rebuild the Parish!
He has stimulated the Parish Social groups, And is a good spiritual leader for the Parish!
Please attend January 6 at 7:00 P.M.
Dee

Baldwin, NY

#1844 Jan 4, 2010
The Epiphany Epiphany at the Resurrection 7:00P.M.
Christine S Mugridge

San Francisco, CA

#1845 Nov 5, 2010
background searcher wrote:
Harry R. Untereiner died May 3, 1942 at the age of 58 on his 58th birthday. His wife's name was Daisy, if that helps.
Harry R and Daisy are my grandparents. They had a son named Harry who married a catholic woman. They in turn had a son who became a catholic priest. This priest should be in his 70's now I think.

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