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Chambersburg, Greene Township officials look for ways to allevi...

There are 61 comments on the Public Opinion story from Apr 18, 2010, titled Chambersburg, Greene Township officials look for ways to allevi.... In it, Public Opinion reports that:

For businesses looking to locate in Chambersburg, the area near Exit 17 is the place to be.

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For Real

Chambersburg, PA

#3 Apr 19, 2010
Duh? It sounds like they put the cart before the horse, doesn't it?
The voice

Greencastle, PA

#4 Apr 19, 2010
"If you biuld it they will come."
Anon

Mercersburg, PA

#5 Apr 19, 2010
If an ally or road could connect Grant St. to Broad St it could help with the backup at Norland. Maybe when Jennings moves a connector road could be put in there. I think it would help.
pamale

Chambersburg, PA

#6 Apr 19, 2010
Ironic that the grant came through that relentless budget deficit fighter Bill Shuster, who....wait a second didn't he and his father receive copious contributions from the developers of that exit????

The Shusters get credit come and going. They help screw things up and then they get credit for trying to help fix things. But I seriously doubt this one will be fixed. The newly planted merchants need that traffic. I feel especially for the people who live on Norland, which used to be a quiet, tree-lined residential street. Now they have extremely heavy traffic including extra wide commercial vehicles forced off 81 by the narrowing which one day will lead to widening. Also, who designed the exits off 81 at Walker and at Exit 10 at Marion? It is virtually impossible to see traffic coming at you across the bridges.
wow

Chambersburg, PA

#7 Apr 19, 2010
so, no one thought this was going to happen before they built it?? aren't these some of the problems people said would happen when they contested exit 17?
Grrr

Chambersburg, PA

#8 Apr 19, 2010
Start with fixing the intersection after the norland pub. That is unsafe and a death waiting to happen. There is too much traffic for the weird blinky light intersection to be effective.
HEV

Chambersburg, PA

#9 Apr 19, 2010
Why weren't the signals installed when the exit was constructed? Anyone with any common sense could foresee that the traffic signals would be necessary. And why was the slope of the bridge so steep that vision for drivers trying to use the exit (on or off) to see oncoming traffic is limited and dangerous. One of the key reasons for construction of the exit was to reduce traffic on Lincoln Way East; the exit has done an excellent job. Now they're complaining about that traffic. Isn't life great!
concerned citizen

Chambersburg, PA

#10 Apr 19, 2010
I agree with you all putting lights in at the interstate 81. It is so hard to take advantage of the exit because it is hard to see when cars come over the bridge. There should also be a light at the woodstock/walker rd intersection as well.

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#11 Apr 19, 2010
Lights are sorely needed at the I-81 ramps at Exit 17 - and a left turning lane is URGENTLY needed at the intersection of Norland and Walker.
Jon

Greencastle, PA

#12 Apr 19, 2010
concerned citizen wrote:
I agree with you all putting lights in at the interstate 81. It is so hard to take advantage of the exit because it is hard to see when cars come over the bridge. There should also be a light at the woodstock/walker rd intersection as well.
I can't believe they didn't put a turning lane from Walker Road onto Norland. They had to know this would be a problem. And Chambersburg has a planning commission, you would never know it. They have a rubber stamp department with one stamp that reads, Approved.

Since: May 09

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#13 Apr 19, 2010
Jon wrote:
<quoted text> I can't believe they didn't put a turning lane from Walker Road onto Norland. They had to know this would be a problem. And Chambersburg has a planning commission, you would never know it. They have a rubber stamp department with one stamp that reads, Approved.
I remember when the intersection was put in and there was a story in the PO. The boneheaded idiot in charge said that traffic would "naturally" turn left at Gateway Ave to go to Chambersburg Crossings.

He was wrong and my daily commute has been raising my blood pressure ever since.

They didn't even leave enough room to drive around the cars waitng to turn. I HATE that intersection, and I hate th idiot who thought it was a good idea.
Eric Cartman

Chambersburg, PA

#14 Apr 19, 2010
Yes, help traffic congestion by putting more traffic lights in so traffic can really slow to a crawl.

Why don't we just back them up like they have it on Rt 30?

The question I want to ask, why can't all the hundreds of traffic lights be set to flash after 10 o'clock or so.
You drive down 30 at night and one car needs to get out of walmart and everyone has to stop for no good reason.
Mike

Shippensburg, PA

#15 Apr 19, 2010
The Borough and Greene Twp created the problems and are receiving the benefits of extra taxes.
Let them finance the corrections and expansions with their tax money only.
I do not want to send them any of my tax money thru the Federal Government and the Shuster family.
I am one of those people who does still pay Federal taxes.
Elated

Shippensburg, PA

#16 Apr 19, 2010
I am so happy to hear that they are finally going to put up lights at Exit 17. I have had several close calls there. It is very dangerous! I agree with "Grn Twp Res" that the bridge at Walker Road should not have been torn down (unless it was in very bad shape). Rebuilding a bridge would significantly help all of the busses and parents headed to, and from, the Faust area. This should be considered in the "traffic study".
CRT

Chambersburg, PA

#17 Apr 19, 2010
Representative Shuster provided funds to install traffic lights at the Fayette Street exit of I 81, where there are no businesses except the porn industry. The signals were supposedly installed for future business/industrial growth. Meanwhile at the King Street exit there are no traffic signals, but alot more traffic and several businesses and an industry. Of course, King Street is in Representative Platt's district. A beautiful example of "pork"!

Since: May 09

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#18 Apr 19, 2010
Eric Cartman wrote:
Yes, help traffic congestion by putting more traffic lights in so traffic can really slow to a crawl.
Why don't we just back them up like they have it on Rt 30?
The question I want to ask, why can't all the hundreds of traffic lights be set to flash after 10 o'clock or so.
You drive down 30 at night and one car needs to get out of walmart and everyone has to stop for no good reason.
I'm willing to bet you've never had to turn left onto Walker Road from Exit 17. It's a mess and it needs a light.

Blinking traffic lights are another story altogether.
Say What

York, PA

#19 Apr 19, 2010
wow wrote:
so, no one thought this was going to happen before they built it?? aren't these some of the problems people said would happen when they contested exit 17?
That is EXACTLY why Greene tried fighting this exit in the first place. They recognized their adjoining infra-structure was not ready for this expansion and saw thru the boro's claim they wanted exit 17 to help alleviate RT 30 traffic!!!

But now we, Greene Twp residents that is, have to foot the bill!!!!!
Say What

York, PA

#20 Apr 19, 2010
Mike wrote:
The Borough and Greene Twp created the problems and are receiving the benefits of extra taxes.
Let them finance the corrections and expansions with their tax money only.
I do not want to send them any of my tax money thru the Federal Government and the Shuster family.
I am one of those people who does still pay Federal taxes.
Mike, first off, Greene did NOT create this problem, the boro, Gablers and PennDot did, PERIOD!

Greene tried to fight this exit and look what happened!!!!

And secondly, Greene has ZERO Property & ZERO Real Estate taxes for the last 30 years, so how are they benefitting from the taxes????
A Rational Person

Chambersburg, PA

#21 Apr 19, 2010
I don't know what moron designed Exit 17 but he or they should have to be out there everyday directing traffic until traffic lights and be installed. The only reason for congestion at Norland and Walker roads is poor design from the git-go. My 16 year old dog could have done a better job and he is dead! Both of the I-81 exits need to have traffic lights and Kohler road needs a light. I am surprised that no one has been killed there yet!
A Rational Person

Chambersburg, PA

#22 Apr 19, 2010
Effington wrote:
<quoted text>
I remember when the intersection was put in and there was a story in the PO. The boneheaded idiot in charge said that traffic would "naturally" turn left at Gateway Ave to go to Chambersburg Crossings.
He was wrong and my daily commute has been raising my blood pressure ever since.
They didn't even leave enough room to drive around the cars waitng to turn. I HATE that intersection, and I hate th idiot who thought it was a good idea.
The guy that designed all of this would have to get some bone to be a bonehead. He has a mush-mellon for a head and a brain. he obviously doesn't know how to conduct a traffic flow study. Any moron would know that traffic coming from RT-30 might want to turn left to get to the shops. Not everyone will turn by the ford place to get there. Why they don't ask the people that will be driving there everyday how it should work is just stupid.

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