17-year-old Utica accident victim dies

May 25, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Mid-York Weekly

The 17-year-old who was driving a vehicle that crashed into a tree on Albany Street Saturday night has died, Utica police confirmed late tonight.

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thrashpunk

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May 26, 2010
 
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before u jump to conclusions nobody even knows if they were drinking they are waiting on test to come back.so please before u judge this accident wait for the results
umm nobodys jumping. 17 year olds leavin a bar in the ghetto, prom night, driving triple the speed limit....seem pretty obvious.
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Ok I'll say it again. I'm shocked at how callous people can be. It's a known fact that when you've been drinking (I'm only assuming he was drinking) your judgement is impaired. Add to that the fact that he was a teenager; teenagers tend to think they are invincible (which just goes to show their natural judgement is slightly impaired any way.) But really none of this matters. What matters is that a tragedy that affected 5 young people occurred. Our prayers should be with the survivors and the families of all 5.
Don't be shocked the heart of a human is dark.
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I am completely shocked at you arrogant people that are blaming the parents.You clearly have no idea what if feels like to lose a child.Whether he was speeding,drinking or driving past 9 doesn't even matter anymore.What matters is his parents have to live their life forever without their child.And the same people who are posting comments about driving past 9 are probably some teenagers who are drive past nine themselves.Kids make mistakes everyday and you can't blame just the driver of the car because all those kids knew what they were doing when they got in that car.This is a terrible tragedy and for all you haters out there talking shit about it...get a life.And i pray that God has mercy on your soul because you clearly are heartless.This could happen to someone you know and you should be thankful that it hasn't happened to you or your child you piece of shit.God does exist and I honestly feel sorry for you and everyone out there who has something negative to say about this.Who cares what he did or how he was when he was alive.He's someones baby and now he is gone forever.I pray for the family and friends of all the teenagers involved.Stop blaming the parents and start blaming yourself and the people who are like you for the way the world is today. I hope you never have to lose a child because then maybe you'll understand what these people are going throug you DUMB BASTARD!I guarantee that the majority of the teenagers out there are doing the same. this is life and people make mistakes. nobodys kid is perfect.
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Don't be shocked the heart of a human is dark.
Mine isn't.
Kenny

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Kenny you ignorant moron, God still loves you and this poor child who made a mistake and paid the ultimate price. We should pray to God that something like this does not happen to us or our families.
We should also pray for this child and his family and friends. God does exist.
Wow you really are as stupid as a horse aren't you? You must be totally completely fkkking retarded if you can't accept the lack of cause and effect with regard to "god". DOn't be a mental midget till the end smarten up! The fkkn world trade center FELL ONTO A FKN CHURCH YOU MORONS! How many more examples do simpleton retards like you need to see year after year before YOU START HELPING YOURSELVES??

God is a lie and this mess here's your proof. Babies with AIDs? What "sin" did they commit? What "god" would cause suffering and infant death like that? Oh, I know.... "It's god's mysterious ways!!! The only thing mysterious about GOD is how many millions of stupid fkkkn ignorant people use a fairytale with ZERO PROOF as an emotional crutch to TRY to handle reality to explain the universe? What about all the innocent people who die in wars? What about the innocent lives lost in natural disasters? What about Hiroshima of Nagasaki where hundreds of thousands of innocent lost their lives in 1/100000th of a second? Yeah sure! You'd think "god" would have said "whoa"!!!

What is god? Some kind of fkkn azzh0le then?
What about the priest boyfkkers then? How much fkkn proof do you god freak retards actually need to finally shut the fk up and get with the program?
You keep right on praying idiots....... and he'll keep right on shtting on you and you deserve it.
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Kenny wrote:
<quoted text>Wow you really are as stupid as a horse aren't you? You must be totally completely fkkking retarded if you can't accept the lack of cause and effect with regard to "god". DOn't be a mental midget till the end smarten up! The fkkn world trade center FELL ONTO A FKN CHURCH YOU MORONS! How many more examples do simpleton retards like you need to see year after year before YOU START HELPING YOURSELVES??
God is a lie and this mess here's your proof. Babies with AIDs? What "sin" did they commit? What "god" would cause suffering and infant death like that? Oh, I know.... "It's god's mysterious ways!!! The only thing mysterious about GOD is how many millions of stupid fkkkn ignorant people use a fairytale with ZERO PROOF as an emotional crutch to TRY to handle reality to explain the universe? What about all the innocent people who die in wars? What about the innocent lives lost in natural disasters? What about Hiroshima of Nagasaki where hundreds of thousands of innocent lost their lives in 1/100000th of a second? Yeah sure! You'd think "god" would have said "whoa"!!!
What is god? Some kind of fkkn azzh0le then?
What about the priest boyfkkers then? How much fkkn proof do you god freak retards actually need to finally shut the fk up and get with the program?
You keep right on praying idiots....... and he'll keep right on shtting on you and you deserve it.
Yo kenny how about you just stfu no one asked for your bullshit opinion on ne thing take your ignorant ass go home and drive a big cock right up your ass
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#29
May 26, 2010
 
The fact that a single person would have a negative comment about a 17 year old boy dying goes to show just how low and disgusting this area has become. And you are probably the same ones complaining that everyone keeps leaving the area. Enjoy visiting your kids and grandkids out of state. Because it is YOU and your OLD generation that has ruined this area. It is YOU that makes us one of the worst cities in the country. It is YOU that makes our statistics relating to educated adults so low. YOU are the problem and you should be ashamed of yourself. But you're so ignorant that you probably get off on this back and forth.

God Bless Chris Swider, his family, his friends and pray for the other victims that are still fighting for her life.
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Kenny wrote:
<quoted text>Wow you really are as stupid as a horse aren't you? You must be totally completely fkkking retarded if you can't accept the lack of cause and effect with regard to "god". DOn't be a mental midget till the end smarten up! The fkkn world trade center FELL ONTO A FKN CHURCH YOU MORONS! How many more examples do simpleton retards like you need to see year after year before YOU START HELPING YOURSELVES??
God is a lie and this mess here's your proof. Babies with AIDs? What "sin" did they commit? What "god" would cause suffering and infant death like that? Oh, I know.... "It's god's mysterious ways!!! The only thing mysterious about GOD is how many millions of stupid fkkkn ignorant people use a fairytale with ZERO PROOF as an emotional crutch to TRY to handle reality to explain the universe? What about all the innocent people who die in wars? What about the innocent lives lost in natural disasters? What about Hiroshima of Nagasaki where hundreds of thousands of innocent lost their lives in 1/100000th of a second? Yeah sure! You'd think "god" would have said "whoa"!!!
What is god? Some kind of fkkn azzh0le then?
What about the priest boyfkkers then? How much fkkn proof do you god freak retards actually need to finally shut the fk up and get with the program?
You keep right on praying idiots....... and he'll keep right on shtting on you and you deserve it.
Not only are you just plain ignorant, you have no soul. I hope you never are faced with a tragedy in YOUR life because without God to help you thru it, you will be lost - forever.
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Kenny needs to read "The Shack".
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Kenny wrote:
<quoted text>Wow you really are as stupid as a horse aren't you? You must be totally completely fkkking retarded if you can't accept the lack of cause and effect with regard to "god". DOn't be a mental midget till the end smarten up! The fkkn world trade center FELL ONTO A FKN CHURCH YOU MORONS! How many more examples do simpleton retards like you need to see year after year before YOU START HELPING YOURSELVES??
God is a lie and this mess here's your proof. Babies with AIDs? What "sin" did they commit? What "god" would cause suffering and infant death like that? Oh, I know.... "It's god's mysterious ways!!! The only thing mysterious about GOD is how many millions of stupid fkkkn ignorant people use a fairytale with ZERO PROOF as an emotional crutch to TRY to handle reality to explain the universe? What about all the innocent people who die in wars? What about the innocent lives lost in natural disasters? What about Hiroshima of Nagasaki where hundreds of thousands of innocent lost their lives in 1/100000th of a second? Yeah sure! You'd think "god" would have said "whoa"!!!
What is god? Some kind of fkkn azzh0le then?
What about the priest boyfkkers then? How much fkkn proof do you god freak retards actually need to finally shut the fk up and get with the program?
You keep right on praying idiots....... and he'll keep right on shtting on you and you deserve it.
I'm an intelligent individual but when I read this I was speechless I was so angry. How the hell are you going to call anyone a simpleton? An intelligent, evolved, educated, tolerant person can accept that other people might have different views than his own without resorting to calling name, cussing, and overall acting like a jackass. I guess that would make you the simpleton.
And furthermore, God does not give babies AIDS, their parents do. Mankind does.
By the way horses are actually very intelligent animals, I would venture to say more intelligent than you are.
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Kenny, you may not believe in God, but I will bet if a couple people on this thread get their hands on you, you would be screaming for God's mercy.

Oh and did you notice that I didn't have to go into a profanity laced tirade to express the fact that you are an ignorant, uneducated individual with the moral fiber of a maggot.
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Kenny wrote:
<quoted text>Wow you really are as stupid as a horse aren't you? You must be totally completely fkkking retarded if you can't accept the lack of cause and effect with regard to "god". DOn't be a mental midget till the end smarten up! The fkkn world trade center FELL ONTO A FKN CHURCH YOU MORONS! How many more examples do simpleton retards like you need to see year after year before YOU START HELPING YOURSELVES??
God is a lie and this mess here's your proof. Babies with AIDs? What "sin" did they commit? What "god" would cause suffering and infant death like that? Oh, I know.... "It's god's mysterious ways!!! The only thing mysterious about GOD is how many millions of stupid fkkkn ignorant people use a fairytale with ZERO PROOF as an emotional crutch to TRY to handle reality to explain the universe? What about all the innocent people who die in wars? What about the innocent lives lost in natural disasters? What about Hiroshima of Nagasaki where hundreds of thousands of innocent lost their lives in 1/100000th of a second? Yeah sure! You'd think "god" would have said "whoa"!!!
What is god? Some kind of fkkn azzh0le then?
What about the priest boyfkkers then? How much fkkn proof do you god freak retards actually need to finally shut the fk up and get with the program?
You keep right on praying idiots....... and he'll keep right on shtting on you and you deserve it.
First of all Kenny horses are not stupid. There may be some that are not quite as smart as others but this is true for all of Gods creatures such as yourself.
Let me enlighten you as to why there is so much bad in the world and why God doesnt stop it and believe me...I am not a bible thumper..the last time I went to church was many years ago I couldnt even tell you when.
There is much beauty and goodness in the world, and there is also ugliness and evil, now it wouldnt make sense to only believe in God and not Satan right? The horrible evil and senseless acts and horrible diseases that we see are the work of Satan.
Good sometimes does come out of these evil acts (with God's help) when people pull together in a tragedy such as the World Trade Center which you mention, by the way it didnt fall on a church, there is a church in that area that still stands, St. Peters Church which faces it go ahead google it. If you notice my ISP address Im from the NYC area and remember that period of time very well, I will never forget it. I saw alot of good come out of it when people all pulled together to help.
Sometimes people can only see the bad in situations and ignore the good that came out of it. It's like going to a restaurant and bitching because your soup was lukewarm but forgetting to compliment the chef on the awesome dinner that folowed or the awesome service that you waiter gave you. Some people always focus on the bad....thats a shame.
I feel sorry for you Kenny because your glass is half empty....mine is half full!
Now Im sure that you will come back on here and bash me for my comment....but thats OK I expect no less from such a negative and sad person.
I feel sorry for you.
Love,
Beanz
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I agree with people that say he deserved it. If your drinking going 100 in a 30 well deserve it. I was 17 6 years ago I wasnt stupid enought to drink and drive especialy going 100 in a 30.
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Kenny wrote:
<quoted text>Wow you really are as stupid as a horse aren't you? You must be totally completely fkkking retarded if you can't accept the lack of cause and effect with regard to "god". DOn't be a mental midget till the end smarten up! The fkkn world trade center FELL ONTO A FKN CHURCH YOU MORONS! How many more examples do simpleton retards like you need to see year after year before YOU START HELPING YOURSELVES??
God is a lie and this mess here's your proof. Babies with AIDs? What "sin" did they commit? What "god" would cause suffering and infant death like that? Oh, I know.... "It's god's mysterious ways!!! The only thing mysterious about GOD is how many millions of stupid fkkkn ignorant people use a fairytale with ZERO PROOF as an emotional crutch to TRY to handle reality to explain the universe? What about all the innocent people who die in wars? What about the innocent lives lost in natural disasters? What about Hiroshima of Nagasaki where hundreds of thousands of innocent lost their lives in 1/100000th of a second? Yeah sure! You'd think "god" would have said "whoa"!!!
What is god? Some kind of fkkn azzh0le then?
What about the priest boyfkkers then? How much fkkn proof do you god freak retards actually need to finally shut the fk up and get with the program?
You keep right on praying idiots....... and he'll keep right on shtting on you and you deserve it.
You know what? It's the tragedies that make people like this guy angry at God. He can't help but lash out because clearly he thinks that God should protect and save us from everything. What happens when you do that to your kids? They become spoiled brats and have no character or ethics. That is what happens when everything is easy as pie in your life. God figured out a long time ago that it was better for us to suffer and struggle as it builds character and he gave us the freedom to choose His ways or not. Better to be loved and sought after and needed then to be taken for granted and to be robots that have no choice in the matter. If you read the Bible you will see it was perfect in the beginning but that didn't work. He even wiped out mankind once to start over again. I often wonder if He just decided it was best to allow chaos to rule for the most part and let us grow in character and become hungry for good instead of evil. Regardless, dying isn't the worst thing to a Christian, not when you believe in eternal life. It's hard on the survivors because we miss out loved ones but they are not suffering anymore and if innocent are in heaven. So God calling people home is not cruel in our eyes. We all have a time to die and it IS a mystery to us as to why it has to be that way. If we understood it all we would be equal to God. Personally I feel there is more evidence of creation and something greater than ourselves than not. Kenny, you need to at least respect others beliefs and not attack them in a time of pain. That is just human decency.
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Good job Beanz.

Very well stated. to bad though as your comments are way over his head, as I doubt he has the comprehension skills to understand anything you stated.
god or no god

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I can see a valid point on both sides of this argument. I do in fact believe that there is something more out there than just nothing after death. I also believe that the story that we have been taught about god is not the truth . However the great thing about living in america is that we are all entitled to believe in whatever we want. So let me ask you why all the negative comments about ones beliefs. This young man made a bad decision to drink drive and speed. We should be thankful that the only life he took was his own. Now why would anyone blame his parents for this. His was entirely his fault. Had they known he was going to drive like this ,I am sure they would have kept him home. As for the comment about Babies dying, well one would only hope if there is a god he only saved them from being subjected to all this hate on earth.
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Long Time Utican wrote:
<quoted text>Not only are you just plain ignorant, you have no soul. I hope you never are faced with a tragedy in YOUR life because without God to help you thru it, you will be lost - forever.
COming from YOU that really must mean something lmao! Did it ever occur to your stupid azz that "faith" let me and billions of others down again and again? You go right on with your old racist self hag. If your "god" really existed then who the fk would want to buy into the world "he" created anyway moron? Keep living your lie and praying to a fake god that by your own beliefs allows this type stuff to happen ok? You can't have it both ways Mrs. Ignorant. You IGNORE the very reality in front of your face and you all keep making excuses no matter how bad the contradictions! LMAO!

And another thing! Up until the second this idiot died in the very eyes of your society he was and IS a FELON a criminal and a neglegent moron. It's funny seeing the police on TV saying things like "it's such an unfortunate thing" now that he's dead but UP UNTIL then he would have been -and should be- labelled a CRIMINAL DRUNK! A FELON! A LOWLIFE! SO which is it? You can't have it both ways or you all become hypocrite liars! Too bad! Now poor little Scott Mcnamera has no-one to run up the river and no GIANT headlines about what he does to "protect us" all. I can tell that some people here have serious fkn issues with truth, justice faith and blame! All any of you have done is made yourselves look like a bunch of blithering conflicted hypocritical idiots! Lets cry for the drunk felon now?
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Hmmm wrote:
<quoted text> If you read the Bible you will see it was perfect in the beginning but that didn't work. He even wiped out mankind once to start over again.
I read the bible when I was 11 and quickly determined it was a steamin pile of lies contradictions and fairy tales. I'm still waiting for the rest of you to catch up. Fact is, if "god" had to redo everything and start fresh then he is not "omniscient" and full of wisdom duhhh. You'd think if it were all anything but a hot colostomy bag of shzzzzzt that the old boy wouldv'e known. Damn you people are stupid you ignore the obvious. If the bible had never existed and one day you found a bible in a library you honestly can tell me you'd say "WOW!!!! THIS IS THE BOOK OF ALL THE ANSWERS!!! Imagine THAT!

If the bible were only a movie that was released last week people would have a FIELD DAY over the HOLES in the reasoning and the TOTAL lack of proof! Go on go to church and pray for understanding but make sure you bring your little boys for lessons on love too ok?
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Good job Beanz.
Very well stated. to bad though as your comments are way over his head, as I doubt he has the comprehension skills to understand anything you stated.
Thanks!
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Good job Beanz.
Very well stated. to bad though as your comments are way over his head, as I doubt he has the comprehension skills to understand anything you stated.
Yeah. You're commending someone who obviously doesn't know about what he speaks. The St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church was completely demolishe on 11 September 2001. OOOOPS! Sorta sucks when you don't have your facts straight and go around spewwing "wisdom" isn't it? But what would I know it's not like I worked at an insurance company 3 blocks away that day and saw all this with my own eyes from 2000 feet away, or is it?

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