Everyone’s Moving Away

Everyone’s Moving Away

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Tom2v

Holland, MI

#1 Jan 11, 2013
People are leaving the less fiscally sound states for other states that are in better fiscal shape. They are also starting to follow jobs. Job growth in states like California has been anemic compared to states like Texas. Or, my wife postulates that maybe liberals are simply not reproducing, and they will eventually die off.

There are two ways for states to get out of the mess they are in. They can tax their citizens. Illinois, California, Maryland and others are trying this. Or, they can try to increase economic growth to try and generate tax revenue. States that take the second tactic must also decrease government spending, and change the way they pay government employees. Indiana successfully made the switch. Wisconsin and Michigan are attempting to move in that direction. Although, Detroit is such a mess people are simply fleeing Michigan.

Long term trends for states that aren’t increasing their populations are not good. The productive classes are leaving. That leaves behind the very wealthy, and the people on government assistance.

Where do you want to be in ten years?

http://pointsandfigures.com/2013/01/11/everyo...

See map..read comments
Congrats!
disco stu

Holland, MI

#2 Jan 11, 2013
Sorry tom, minorities are moving to other states, not out of the country.
So the national demographic will stay the same.

The same amount of black people will vote for Obama.
The same amount of hispanic people will vote for Obama.
The same amount of asian people will vote for Obama.
The same amount of women will vote for Obama.

Just because I move to Texas for a job dosnt mean I change my philisophical outlook. It just means one more moderate independent voter in the Lone Star State.
bonds77

Holland, MI

#4 Jan 11, 2013
Who's Volkema?
Blackhorse

Byron Center, MI

#5 Jan 12, 2013
It looks like we have a forum person who likes using other users names.

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#6 Jan 12, 2013
there's more than one..

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#8 Jan 12, 2013
Jay wrote:
Burns,
Don't act like you haven't done it. You hypocrite.
SQUIREL!
bonds77

Holland, MI

#10 Jan 12, 2013
Wow, "Jay", you've given up three people just this week. I didn't like it on another board(or this one)- why are you doing it?

And how do you know these people?

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#11 Jan 12, 2013
yea Jay... and i've changed my opinion of it too. yup, it's perfectly legal, but i've decided its not the right thing to do.

but ya do what ya gotta do.

hypocrite? me? no. not really.

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#14 Jan 13, 2013
and those 3 are holy innocent saints, Jay? REALLY? boy, you're not biased at all are ya? nice.. see what ya wanna see...
bonds77

Scottville, MI

#15 Jan 13, 2013
"Don't Cry For Me Argentina"
Jay

Scottville, MI

#16 Jan 13, 2013
Can someone please help me get my nose out of bonds77's butt-crack?

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#18 Jan 13, 2013
i gotcha... 3rd party my a$$.. but what ever... continue on your crusade of good.

got your nose out yet? i see your plea for help. it's gonna take the jaws of life.
Blackhorse

Byron Center, MI

#19 Jan 13, 2013
Jay, for the record, you are a louse. Instead of being a man and saying these things face to face, you choose the coward's way out and do it anonomously behind a computer screen.

You are a spineless piece of garbage.

bonds77, thanks for asking Jay for his reasons for being a weasel.

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#22 Jan 13, 2013
somebody's (Jay) about 2-3 yrs behind the times. but hey...

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#23 Jan 13, 2013
Jay wrote:
It sure is different when it happening to you is'nt it. Incredible.
thanks Jeshok... how hypocritical of you
bonds77

Holland, MI

#24 Jan 13, 2013
Yeah, you know, I don't really want my stuff out there again, so I'm trying to stay out of this one. I don't support putting personal info out there. What's the point? I feel like I kinda knew enough before.
Blackhorse

Byron Center, MI

#25 Jan 14, 2013
Hi Jay! The fact remains you are a coward. If you were a man you would come to me face to face. So that is the bottom line.

The fact also remains that bonds77 and Zian outed themselves way before I said anything and I refered to them and talked to them using the very screen names they used. The fact remains that you know me personally and that I did not reveal my identity here .... you did.

You are a coward who has appointed himself judge, jury and executioner. You should be saying these things to me face to face, but of course you won't do that. You are a coward who sees only what he wants to see.

Be a man jay. lol at that proposition.
Bob

Holland, MI

#27 Jan 14, 2013
So, Dave(Burns), you finally got pushed out to where you pushed others and don't like it. LOL. What a work of art you are. Then, you start threatening like the school yard bully you have been known to behave like. Didn't you threaten bodily harm on another forum? Should you be allowed to own weapons???

Bob.
Jay

United States

#28 Jan 14, 2013
Please forgive me for breaking the Golden Rule. I have become a complete hypocrite. So, please forgive me.

Also, please disregard anything I say as I am now a hypocrite. Me and my other pseudonyms.

Yes, Mr Blackhorse, I am a coward. I hide behind this and other pseudonyms to attack you. I don't have the balls to admit who I am. So forgive me for my cowardice also.

Humbly yours
Jay
Blackhorse

Byron Center, MI

#29 Jan 14, 2013
Look, I really don't care what is said here. The fact remains, I said some things that were out of line and if you had any clue as to what happened, you would know I apologized more than once to bonds here in the forum about what I said.

He also accepted my apologies and if you were not here to see that, you missed the boat (as usual).

My identity here is not a secret. If you go to car shows, you know who I am. If you know I enjoy the shooting, you know who I am. If you know where I work, you know who I am.

Both of you (bobby and jay) are cowards and I'm glad you realize it. So continue to hide behind your monitors and if either of you manage to have the courage to say it to my face, you know how to find me. BTW, it was good to see you today bob. lol

If you find the guts, ask bonds77 about what I said or he may come forward and tell you what I said was fact. Anyway fire away because if you think I give rat's tail about what you say, you are sadly mistaken.:-D

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