should welfare recipients have to tak...

should welfare recipients have to take a drug test!

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Snacknacker

Holdenville, OK

#1 Feb 21, 2012
I say yes. And people on unemployment too. When they receive these types of checks, that becomes their job. I have to take drug tests for my job so why not.
City girl

United States

#2 Feb 21, 2012
I agree. Any person who receives a form of government assistance should be drug tested.
mrscountry

Seminole, OK

#3 Feb 21, 2012
just seems awfully judgmental. Nobody is so good that they can't find themselves in need of assistance at one time or another in their lives.
mac grubber

AOL

#4 Feb 21, 2012
mrscountry wrote:
just seems awfully judgmental. Nobody is so good that they can't find themselves in need of assistance at one time or another in their lives.
If you are not taking drugs whats the big deal?? You should pass with flying colors. You seem to be one of those who milk the system all the time. Question to you are you one of those who keeps her legs spread out and pumps those babies out to the tune of 8 so you can draw the max from dhs and uses cheap drugs to get high???
mrscountry

Seminole, OK

#5 Feb 21, 2012
Get a life you dumb redneck hillbilly. Its a sad day in America when we single out a group of people because society thinks they are somehow less of a person. Do you honestly think police officers, politicians, teachers, etc don't use drugs also? Are they also not receiving taxpayer dollars to pay their salaries? Lets drug test every person in congress if we are going to judge those who are on welfare. Its extremely judgmental.
watchdog
#6 Feb 22, 2012
mrs country, dont pay any mind to what mac said. He's probly #8 in his family. If he got all that from your 1 little post then its obvious that he can't read 2 clearly after a few bud lights lol! He must be one that piles his feed bags & 12 pack cartons on his flatbed truck 2 litter the hwy with.
He thinks his tax money buys him the right to treat the world as his trash can & the people like servants. Most likely a hard core alcoholic, that can pass a drug test!!!!! No mac, i'm not on welfare, don't do drugs, and enjoy my sweet tea. I put a cinder block 2 weight down my feed bags till they make the trash can @ the foot of my driveway, cause it IS the trash collectors job to empty the can!!!
Anonymous

Davenport, OK

#7 Feb 22, 2012
I agree with Mac, if one is on drugs they should use that money for the family rather replace it with our tax dollars. Why should clean people have to support their habit?
mrscountry

Seminole, OK

#8 Feb 22, 2012
soozie do you want to also test anyone that receives a disability check? You also shouldn't assume that most ppl that are on welfare are drug addicts because that isn't the case.
City girl

United States

#9 Feb 22, 2012
I agree with Mac and sooozie as well. Test them for drugs if they're getting government dollars. Even the ones on disability, no exceptions. Soon to be Oklahoma law anyway...
Janis McElroy

Oklahoma City, OK

#10 Feb 22, 2012
Personally I would question if drug testing a selected group of people is constitutional. But, I understand that it sounds good in theory to drug test people getting public assistance. However, we should remember to look at the results in Florida. After 12 months of drug testing applicants before giving them assistance, 2% of the applicants tested positive. The state of Florida saved a mere $60 thousand dollars in benefits they would have paid out to this 2%. But....it cost the state of Florida a whopping $178 million to implement the testing. Interesting that the governor of Florida's wife had a financial interest in the company who received the contract to do the testing. Our legislators are expecting us all to react like sheep because we usually do. They use the media to stir us up, making us believe all these people are living on our tax dollars and using illegal drugs . Then when they decide to implement the legislation, we will probably play right into their hands, supporting them either making more money for themselves or scratch someone else's back to whom they owe a financial favor. This law obviously will not save the state money, but, in fact, will use up millions of tax dollars on something that is just a total waste. And make some politician or politician's friend richer. My advice is do your research before you form an opinion.
mrscountry

Seminole, OK

#11 Feb 22, 2012
exactly janis. Drug testing a certain group of people isn't constitutional. 2% of any group are going to be drug users. You think all politicians are drug free???? I say lets drug test all of them and see how they like it. Afterall, their salaries come from our tax dollars. I personally don't agree with kicking people when they are down. You guys actually think people like being on welfare????? Its a demeaning thing to begin with to have to go down to dhs and get food stamps, etc. If you drug tested all the people who get a disability check then half the population would be getting drug tests. This is a horrible and judgmental idea.
City girl

United States

#12 Feb 22, 2012
I would bet that over 50% of the welfare recipients in Holdenville use illicit drugs. I pray this law passes in Oklahoma soon. Too many losers abusing the system.
mrscountry

Seminole, OK

#13 Feb 22, 2012
Surprised at how judgmental you are city girl. You make crazy, broad claims with absolutely no evidence to back it up. Read janis's post and you will see it would only end up costing Oklahoma a lot of money with nothing to show for it.
mac grubber

AOL

#14 Feb 22, 2012
mrscountry wrote:
soozie do you want to also test anyone that receives a disability check? You also shouldn't assume that most ppl that are on welfare are drug addicts because that isn't the case.
Hey hoho you need checked for health issues along with the drug deal for they says at the dhs you got some bad sexual stuff thats gona be had to get rid of and you have passed it on to the 2 vscrew balls you get your smack from.
City girl

United States

#15 Feb 23, 2012
mrscountry wrote:
Surprised at how judgmental you are city girl. You make crazy, broad claims with absolutely no evidence to back it up. Read janis's post and you will see it would only end up costing Oklahoma a lot of money with nothing to show for it.
Show me the proof to the 2% claim in Florida... STFUB
City girl

United States

#16 Feb 23, 2012
In my opinion... The taxpayers of Oklahoma shouldn't have to be subsidizing the drug addicts on welfare. If you're clean, you have nothing to worry about. Your $30 will be gladly refunded. This bill (HB 2388) has already passed the HOR in Oklahoma (6-2), and now goes on to the FH. I suggest rehab and lollipops for those of you on illegal drugs.
mrscountry

Seminole, OK

#17 Feb 23, 2012
wow city you must really think you are way better than other people. Here is the link of the 2% in florida that tested positive. Too bad florida residents fell for it and ended up losing all kinds of money to just try and punish a portion of its citizens.

http://www2.tbo.com/news/politics/2011/aug/24...
City girl

United States

#18 Feb 23, 2012
I guess you don't mind your tax dollars going to the drug addicts on welfare.... Brilliant!
as eye see it

United States

#19 Feb 23, 2012
Since the state of Florida began testing welfare applicants for drugs in July, about 2 percent have tested positive, preliminary data shows.

Ninety-six percent proved to be drug free leaving the state on the hook to reimburse the cost of their tests.

The initiative may save the state a few dollars anyway, bearing out one of Gov. Rick Scott's arguments for implementing it. But the low test fail-rate undercuts another of his arguments: that people on welfare are more likely to use drugs.

Cost of the tests averages about $30. Assuming that 1,000 to 1,500 applicants take the test every month, the state will owe about $28,800-$43,200 monthly in reimbursements to those who test drug-free.

That compares with roughly $32,200-$48,200 the state may save on one month's worth of rejected applicants.

The savings assume that 20 to 30 people 2 percent of 1,000 to 1,500 tested fail the drug test every month. On average, a welfare recipient costs the state $134 in monthly benefits, which the rejected applicants won't get, saving the state $2,680-$3,350 per month.

But since one failed test disqualifies an applicant for a full year's worth of benefits, the state could save $32,200-$48,200 annually on the applicants rejected in a single month.

Net savings to the state $3,400 to $8,200 annually on one month's worth of rejected applicants. Over 12 months, the money saved on all rejected applicants would add up to $40,800-$98,400 for the cash assistance program that state analysts have predicted will cost $178 million this fiscal year.

Oklahoma - Meth capital of the world
mrscountry

Seminole, OK

#20 Feb 23, 2012
it would be a big waste of money and subject thousands of well meaning people to humiliation. Lets just say that if those folks are going to be drug tested then anyone receiving public aid should also get the same treatment. This goes for all scholarship recipients, public officials, people on disability, etc. If we are going to have this then lets have it for everyone and not just those on welfare. That would be a compromise.

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