Rep. to file proposed 'Jupin's Law' - Sentinel & Enterprise

State Rep. Lewis Evangelidis, R-Holden, announced that he will file new legislation that could dramatically change the way Massachusetts courts treat mentally insane people who commit murder. Full Story
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mlrms

Fitchburg, MA

#1 Nov 20, 2009
It is about time! We need this law.
MECK

Worcester, MA

#2 Nov 20, 2009
Agree with mlrms!!!! We do need this law. the law right now does not define insane well enough. there is always a thin line!! No no exception can be made!!
I agree

Worcester, MA

#4 Nov 20, 2009
Manyo ther states have laws of this type. It's about time this was changed! I support this bill 100%.
agreed

Chelmsford, MA

#5 Nov 20, 2009
At 1st I thought, 10 years in Bridgewater State was a mild sentence, for a murderer, but then when I read on to learn they currently only sentence to 6 MONTHS !!!! With Re-eval.... WOW !

I hope this is passes.

Since: Apr 09

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#7 Nov 20, 2009
I'm all for it...it would weed out a LOT of the posters in these forums!!
LOB

Lancaster, MA

#8 Nov 20, 2009
I like the result of this law... tho not the theory. By definition, to commit murder, i.e., to be guilty, a person needs to have the state of mind to kill. A person can't have this state of mind when he is insane. The bill goes against hundreds of years of criminal precedent.
Poppycock

Worcester, MA

#9 Nov 20, 2009
LOB wrote:
I like the result of this law... tho not the theory. By definition, to commit murder, i.e., to be guilty, a person needs to have the state of mind to kill. A person can't have this state of mind when he is insane. The bill goes against hundreds of years of criminal precedent.


Those hundreds of years of criminal precedent can be wrong.

We'll buy the house next to you and let Mr. Rivers live there.
momo

United States

#10 Nov 20, 2009
Great work Ralph. Keep on fighting. You have lots of people backing you up on this.
DMH

Cape Coral, FL

#11 Nov 20, 2009
Thank You Officer Ralph LeBlanc & the Westminster Police Dept.for pursuing the punishment for this needless crime and the taking of a young mans life so early. Hopefully, we can have confidence that the system will follow through and keep these criminals in confinement and not be released into society.
bob

Nashua, NH

#12 Nov 20, 2009
Is this the same police department that has murdered two people in the last six months.
Westminster

Schaumburg, IL

#13 Nov 20, 2009
Way out of line "bob." An officer died to protect us. At the Rodeway, if I recall correctly, they bottled up a murderer and prevented further victims before he killed himself. Similar situation on Minott Road, although fortunately he didn't get the chance to kill his wife.
concerned citizen

Westborough, MA

#14 Nov 20, 2009
bob wrote:
Is this the same police department that has murdered two people in the last six months.
its quite clear you have no clue!!
This is an ignorant statement.
Maybe you should get an understanding of the facts before you pass judgement.
about time

Gardner, MA

#15 Nov 20, 2009
It's about time something was done. I'm sorry that some people are considered insane, but those they kill are just as dead! Do the crime; do the time. I'm tired of the reasons why someone does something being the main objective. I want to see responsibility take over. I've worked with the mentally handicapped for many years. If my child were killed, I'd want justice no matter what the condition of the killer!!!
jessbrit

Fitchburg, MA

#16 Nov 20, 2009
the current law is not at fault it's the 'experts' that say the offender is now 'sane' and set him free.

same with the judges and parole boards that let sex criminals off or free them to offend again and again.
Poppycock

Worcester, MA

#17 Nov 20, 2009
bob wrote:
Is this the same police department that has murdered two people in the last six months.
I love the ignorance of people.

Scumbag No. 1 killed himself after killing another individual and being stupid enough to check himself into a hotel.

Scumbag No. 2 was stupid enough to turn a firearm on a police officer. Would you rather the police officer light some inscense and sing Cum By Ya, shoot the dumbass, or be buried so that your precious sensitivities are not offended?
Lian

Westford, MA

#18 Nov 20, 2009
I totally agree with the change. How mant times do people get away with murder because their lawyers were good with making them suddenly insane. Its about time and I really hope it passes!!!
Silent Majority

Fitchburg, MA

#19 Nov 20, 2009
I have a problem with the mandatory minimum of ten years if deemed mentally incompetent. This requirement asserts that a mentally deficient individual can not be treated successfully in less than the ten year time frame this legislation will impose. The law, if passed, will be subject to constitutional challenges, and will ultimately be overturned on grounds of "cruel and unusual punishment." Better to massage the language to direct judges to commit convicted defendants to a mental health facility until deemed "sane"; at which point they are to be turned over to the department of corrections to continue serving a sentence consistent with the crime they committed. Re-evaluating a patient every six months is unnecessary and expensive. A patient being treated in an institution is effectively being "evaluated" on a daily basis by their physicians, and I don't believe that a patient can be sufficiently diagnosed "sane" within a six month period. Let the professionals decide if/ when a patient has been treated successfully; at which point they can recommend a hearing by a board for a final determination. The inclusion of guilty verdict on the defendant's criminal record is a necessary evil in this day and age, and an appropriate addition to the bill. The time for the addition for the extra verdict option is long overdue, and I applaud Jupin's brothers on the force for their effort to invoke this change on his behalf, as well as the representatives endorsing this legislation for acting accordingly. I urge caution when crafting the language in the bill, as it could result in a murderer serving very little time after being convicted on a ground of insanity if not carefully articulated..
Dee

Gardner, MA

#20 Nov 20, 2009
Westminster wrote:
Way out of line "bob." An officer died to protect us. At the Rodeway, if I recall correctly, they bottled up a murderer and prevented further victims before he killed himself. Similar situation on Minott Road, although fortunately he didn't get the chance to kill his wife.
I agree and I would also like to say that if you have not had a family member or friend that is a Police Offier and killed in the line of duty, you need not respond, as you certainly have no clue to what the job is or the people who do it are made of.
Rob

Ashburnham, MA

#22 Nov 21, 2009
Lunenburg wrote:
I'm all for it...it would weed out a LOT of the posters in these forums!!
LOL
JOE FROM IDAHO

Fitchburg, MA

#23 Nov 22, 2009
Great job Ralph, you Certainly have done OUR friend Proud. You should be proud of Yourself!!

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