In Delaware, Civil Unions Strife Heat...

In Delaware, Civil Unions Strife Heating Up

There are 12 comments on the EDGElosangeles.com News Feed story from Mar 14, 2011, titled In Delaware, Civil Unions Strife Heating Up. In it, EDGElosangeles.com News Feed reports that:

GLBT equality advocates in Delaware have announced that they are aiming to see a bill brought to state lawmakers that would extend civil unions to gay and lesbian families.

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hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Mar 15, 2011
So, so, so sad. Look how savagely you have to fight for every little thing. I can't help laughing at this point.

It's bad enough that you guys aren't fighting ten times more savagely for your rights. This -- right here -- should be making you so apoplectic that you actually swoop down on the state *acting like* the most thoughtless, selfish beings on earth.

This doesn't even HAVE TO DO with marriage; it is nothing, and yet they are fighting you tooth and nail. And again mentioning the children.

But you won't sue 'em, because "we can't! we can't! we can't!" and they can defeat you every single time by mentioning "THE CHILDREN." It's become comical to place bets with myself as to when you'll wise up.

This organization is *literally lying* but I know right now, already, I know for a fact, that NONE of you is going to do anything about it! You're going to let them lie and then fight tooth and nail for TABLE SCRAPS, civil unions, rather than being *absolutely goddamn apoplectic* that your rights should constantly f***ing be up for question, constantly be fought against, constantly be undermined as if you

are all

utterly

worthless.

I'll never stop saying it at this point and those who choose to treat me unkindly for saying it can suck razor blades and bleed to death in an alley. You need. to stop. this. bullshit. about. THE CHILDREN. in *any way you can legally find* to do it.

Period.

End of statement.

It *will* have you fighting for your very lives until you wise up. Hey, don't trust me.

Watch how Rhode Island and New York are going to go. You'll see.

And this is DELAWARE, where gay marriage ISN'T EVEN BEING DISCUSSED.

Wake up, or ya know what? You deserve everything you're getting.
Leave Those Kids Alone

Newark, DE

#2 Mar 15, 2011
This would be OK with me as long as parents get an educational voucher equal to the per pupil public school expenditure to use at a non public school that supports thier values of right and wrong.

People should not be forced to pay taxes to a system of "education" that undermines their moral beliefs.
Mona Lott

Jackson, NJ

#3 Mar 15, 2011
Leave Those Kids Alone wrote:
This would be OK with me as long as parents get an educational voucher equal to the per pupil public school expenditure to use at a non public school that supports thier values of right and wrong.
People should not be forced to pay taxes to a system of "education" that undermines their moral beliefs.
Taxpayers should not be forced to subsidize religious bigotry.

School vouchers?..... over my dead body.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#4 Mar 15, 2011
Leave Those Kids Alone wrote:
This would be OK with me as long as parents get an educational voucher equal to the per pupil public school expenditure to use at a non public school that supports thier values of right and wrong.
People should not be forced to pay taxes to a system of "education" that undermines their moral beliefs.
Then church schools should have to give up their taxpayer subsides they receive in the form of being tax-exempt.

“A long time ago”

Since: Nov 09

in a galaxy far, far away....

#5 Mar 15, 2011
Leave Those Kids Alone wrote:
This would be OK with me as long as parents get an educational voucher equal to the per pupil public school expenditure to use at a non public school that supports thier values of right and wrong.
People should not be forced to pay taxes to a system of "education" that undermines their moral beliefs.
People should have morals that make SENSE, and that ACTUALLY deal with right and wrong, rather than such unrelated, trivial issues as sexual orientation. People should realize that a community is made up of many DIFFERENT kinds of individuals, and NONE of them should be trying to whitewash EVERYONE with their personal values. NO ONE should be able to tell another citizen that they're valueless, and that their very existence should be kept hidden. If your "morals" are leading you to punish fellow humans who do not deserve it, maybe your moral values should be reconsidered. If you're not teaching your child that what goes on between consenting couple "A" is JUST as important to them as what goes on between consenting couple "B" is to THEM, then your value system may allow you to dehumanize others just a little bit too easily.

“IBM had it right: "Think"”

Since: Mar 07

SF Bay Area Suburbs

#6 Mar 15, 2011
Civil unions, lime marriage, reinforce relationships. This syabizes domestic life and hence society. That is why we need this bill.

“IBM had it right: "Think"”

Since: Mar 07

SF Bay Area Suburbs

#7 Mar 15, 2011
Stupid smart phone and autocorrect.

That should be 'civil unions, like marriage ...'

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#8 Mar 15, 2011
Gary47 wrote:
Stupid smart phone and autocorrect.
That should be 'civil unions, like marriage ...'
You had me worried there, thought maybe you were having a stroke!

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#9 Mar 15, 2011
Gary47 wrote:
Stupid smart phone and autocorrect.
That should be 'civil unions, like marriage ...'
That's what happens when you are posting, and trying to sort out your ingredients for a margarita at the same time. Put aside the keyboard and finish making the drink, for pity's sake.
Leave Those Kids Alone

Fort Washington, PA

#10 Mar 16, 2011
I never said anything about a church school you fool. Why do you assume that anything other than a public school is a church school?

If I don't go to church and I don't want some queen in the public schools sharing his "life style" with my 3rd grade boy, it seems I should have the freedom to choose a school that supports my values. The taxes used to fund that education should follow the child not some perverted agenda.

That's how it works in a free country. Only now, since we are not really free to educate our own kids, I have to pay for the education of my child twice to keep the unacceptable gay lifestyle away from him. This is not fair and will not stand for long.

Since gays can't have children, I wouldn't expect you to understand. I totally understand why you want a captive audience in a 3rd grade class room. No body would pay to support the gay agenda, if given the choice. Thank god I can afford to protect my children from fags in the public schools. Too bad others can't afford this luxury. I wish they could do so with an educational voucher.

Now, if you don't get it then to bad. Not everyone wants their child's gay teachers telling their children that this is an acceptable life style since it clearly is not. Who do you think you are, some form of Hitler?
Mona Lott

Jackson, NJ

#11 Mar 16, 2011
Leave Those Kids Alone wrote:
I never said anything about a church school you fool. Why do you assume that anything other than a public school is a church school?
If I don't go to church and I don't want some queen in the public schools sharing his "life style" with my 3rd grade boy, it seems I should have the freedom to choose a school that supports my values. The taxes used to fund that education should follow the child not some perverted agenda.
That's how it works in a free country. Only now, since we are not really free to educate our own kids, I have to pay for the education of my child twice to keep the unacceptable gay lifestyle away from him. This is not fair and will not stand for long.
Since gays can't have children, I wouldn't expect you to understand. I totally understand why you want a captive audience in a 3rd grade class room. No body would pay to support the gay agenda, if given the choice. Thank god I can afford to protect my children from fags in the public schools. Too bad others can't afford this luxury. I wish they could do so with an educational voucher.
Now, if you don't get it then to bad. Not everyone wants their child's gay teachers telling their children that this is an acceptable life style since it clearly is not. Who do you think you are, some form of Hitler?
Nope. That's NOT how it works in a free country. Tax dollars support PUBLIC SCHOOLS. If you wish to send your child somewhere elese, no one is stopping you..... go ahead.

You don't get to send your kid to private school on the backs of the taxpayer. So sorry.

Speaking of Hitler, I'm sure you'll agree with him:

Today Christians ... stand at the head of [this country]... I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past ...(few) years.

- Adolf Hitler, quoted in: The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872

Sound familiar?

“A long time ago”

Since: Nov 09

in a galaxy far, far away....

#12 Mar 16, 2011
Leave Those Kids Alone wrote:
If I don't go to church and I don't want some queen in the public schools sharing his "life style" with my 3rd grade boy, it seems I should have the freedom to choose a school that supports my values.
If your 3rd grade boy grows up and realizes that he's gay, there are 3 things that could happen.

1) He remembers learning that he's "perverted", and he grows up hating himself, trying to be someone he's not, dragging an unwitting wife into a loveless and sexless relationship where he's likely to cheat on her. Maybe he'll commit suicide.

2) He remembers learning that he's "perverted" but disagrees, finds a happy, welcoming community, and realizes that you've told him bigoted lies, causing a rift between you that may last the rest of your life.

3) You STOP teaching him that there's anything wrong with him (there isn't) and he grows up to be a well-adjusted individual who has a close, loving relationship with you, AND a supportive relationship with a partner based on mutual respect and trust.

Which do you want to happen?

And if he's NOT gay, he may STILL see the bigotry you teach. His path may yet lead away from you, if you insist on teaching hatred against people that have not earned it.
Leave Those Kids Alone wrote:
I have to pay for the education of my child twice to keep the unacceptable gay lifestyle away from him. This is not fair and will not stand for long.
It's PERFECTLY acceptable for people who are gay. But, you won't be able to hide the truth from him. He will talk about gay people at school. He will make gay friends. When he sees that gay people are NOT out to harm anyone, he will wonder why YOU think they are.
Leave Those Kids Alone wrote:
Since gays can't have children, I wouldn't expect you to understand.
MANY gay people are parents. There is nothing about being gay that precludes parenthood.
Leave Those Kids Alone wrote:
I totally understand why you want a captive audience in a 3rd grade class room.
You think this because you believe that "gay"="pedophil e". This is a disgusting insult, and it leaves your kids vulnerable to REAL threats while you are busy scapegoating.
Leave Those Kids Alone wrote:
No body would pay to support the gay agenda, if given the choice.
The "gay agenda" is about equality. Most people support that.
Leave Those Kids Alone wrote:
Thank god I can afford to protect my children from fags in the public schools.
Your children do not NEED protection from us, we are not a threat. But like I explained above, you CANNOT shield your child from the knowledge of our existence, or the truth of the lives we are trying to live. If you lie about us long enough, he will outgrow those lies. And if he IS gay, there is NOTHING you can do to change this.
Leave Those Kids Alone wrote:
Now, if you don't get it then to bad. Not everyone wants their child's gay teachers telling their children that this is an acceptable life style since it clearly is not.
What's not "acceptable" about it? Is there something WRONG with seeking companionship, someone to help us through hard times, and to share happy times with? I think you already have that, I don't see why you would seek to deny it in someone else.

Your problem is that we seek someone of our own gender, but besides being none of your business, what other option should we seek? Should we seek someone that does NOT make us happy? Someone we are NOT attracted to? YOUR best solution is that we somehow CHANGE who we are attracted to, but that is NOT going to happen. YOU try it and tell me how easy it was.
Leave Those Kids Alone wrote:
Who do you think you are, some form of Hitler?
We think we are law-abiding, productive members of society, deserving of the same respect YOU enjoy. Is it right for you to STEAL that respect, and hoard it for yourself?

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